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George Strait and the Grand Ole Opry

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MAGA
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Why is it that George is not a member of the Opry? For someone who has had a hell of a career that he has with 57 #1 hits more than the Beattles and Elvis, inducted in the Country Music Hall of Fame, Artist of the Decade for the 2000's, and numerous other credential, its a shame on the Oprys part for not inviting him into membership.

I was looking at their membership and about half of their members havent hardly done a thing to warrant an honor to be a member and George Strait is not a member.

Pathetic
PlanoAggie
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The Grand Ole Opry is still around? I remember ol Tom T Hall and Minnie Pearl
MAGA
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Yea its still around. Carrie Underwood is one their newest members.

Carrie Underwood? I mean she is a beautiful singer and has lots of talent but she has not done anything close to George Strait and she is a member and he is not?
rbtexan
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I'm pretty sure he has been invited and didn't choose to accept.

Part of being a member of the Opry is that you're expected/required to perform a certain number of times a year on the show. The $$$ are minimal, and he probably just didn't think it was worth his time.
BrazosDog02
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I thought it was kind of like George Bush being asked to be president of a high school political club.

Sort of small potatoes kind of stuff.

[This message has been edited by jed1154 (edited 8/4/2009 2:55p).]
rbtexan
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The Opry has never been that big of a deal in Texas...it's a much bigger deal in this part of the country.

It's really considered more of an honorary thing to be asked to play...artists certainly don't do it for the money, more just to be a part of history. When I moved here, I really didn't see what all the fuss was about, but over the years I've come to understand the historical significance of the Opry and appreciate it for what it is. For some, it's the highlight of their career..I've seen some artists get so emotional about performing on that stage that they can barely get through a song. To others, it doesn't mean that much. I guess GS falls into the latter category.
20-12th Man
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As a huge George Strait fan I think it's important to point out that those #1's were on the country chart, not nearly as impressive as The Beatles 20 number ones.
MAGA
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As a huge George Strait fan I think it's important to point out that those #1's were on the country chart, not nearly as impressive as The Beatles 20 number ones.
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Everything about George Strait is more impressive than the Beattles.
MAGA
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rbtexan:

Now that you mentioned it I think you are right at least about the part about the requirements.
rbtexan
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Got confirmation that he has been invited many times and hasn't chosen to accept, for whatever reason.
drivinwest
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Everything about George Strait is more impressive than the Beattles.


Let's not get crazy here.
BrazosDog02
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They dont have that many members, it doesnt seem to be THAT big a deal.
rbtexan
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They dont have that many members, it doesnt seem to be THAT big a deal.


The baseball hall of fame doesn't have that many members either...by your logic, being in the HOF is no big deal either.

The reason there aren't a lot of members is because you have to be invited to be on it, and it comes with certain obligations. I'm not suggesting the Opry is the end-all-be-all, but it's considered to be quite an honor to just be asked to perform, much less to join.
TXAG 05
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As a huge George Strait fan I think it's important to point out that those #1's were on the country chart, not nearly as impressive as The Beatles 20 number ones


It's 27 #1s and it is more impressive when you remember that the Beatles were only together for a little under 8 years. George Strait has been going for how long now? Now I like King George just as much as anyone, but there really is no comparison. And like someone else said, he is on the country charts, anyone can get on #1 on that.
Old Jock 1997
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The Beatles were pretty groundbreaking in their style, so they really didn't have any competition, IMO. By the time the rest of the music industry caught up, they were done. Had they been as perennial as the Stones, for instance, I don't think they would have maintained the same stranglehold on the industry. My opinion, FWIW.

George Strait, while immensely talented, was/is merely one of many similarly talented country music acts.
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Humbert Humbert II
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charpie, did you just cut and paste rbtexan's reply from the day before?
SinKiller
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Maybe he's waiting until they put Hank back in?
Dallasag02
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Everything about George Strait is more impressive than the Beattles.


Tap the brakes there chief.
Humbert Humbert II
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how many of george's #1s did he write?
how many of the beatles #1s did they NOT write?
TXAG 05
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The answer to both questions is NONE
rbtexan
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While I would agree with the posters who think The Beatles>>>GS, I wouldn't hold it against George for not writing his hits.

Frank Sinatra had a pretty good run without writing his own material.
Humbert Humbert II
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you're exactly right. jorge derecho is one of the best ever. the beatles are just better.
WestTxAg06
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Whoever mentioned the Opry not being as big in Texas makes a good point. Waylon Jennings was speaking the truth when he sang that the Opry was the home of country music, but in Texas that didn't mean a thing. Country music east of Texas developed around the radio "barn dances" like the Opry, the Louisiana Hayride, and the others, but in Texas it was driven by western swing and honky tonk at the dancehalls on Saturday night. A "hillbilly music" performer would have dreamed of performing in that dark oak circle where Roy Acuff, the Delmore Brothers, and the like performed, but to a guy with George's roots, following in the footsteps of Bob Wills and playing the legendary Texas dancehalls would have been a bigger dream.

Now, on a tangent that was mentioned above, the "George is overrated because he doesn't write his own stuff!" camp annoys me immensely. To me, George's method is an admirable and impressive one. He figured out early on that others are far more talented writers than he is, so rather than record his own material which he considered substandard, why not take his singing and performance abilities, combine that with the superior writing abilities of guys who maybe weren't his caliber of singer and performer, and create the perfect storm of great country music?

Sure, it's impressive that the Beatles wrote all their #1s, don't get me wrong. But I get annoyed when George gets derided for not writing his music. If you want to deride someone, deride the country artists who are lesser writers than George and still record and perform that shallow, mediocre crap anyway. Or, as rbtexan pointed out not long ago, deride the industry powers-that-be who are forcing singer-written material onto records to save paying royalties to songwriters.

And for what it's worth, I think George sold himself short as a songwriter. Those first three songs on "Strait Out of the Box" Disc 1 are quality honky tonk tunes.
20ag07
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Now, on a tangent that was mentioned above, the "George is overrated because he doesn't write his own stuff!" camp annoys me immensely. To me, George's method is an admirable and impressive one. He figured out early on that others are far more talented writers than he is, so rather than record his own material which he considered substandard, why not take his singing and performance abilities, combine that with the superior writing abilities of guys who maybe weren't his caliber of singer and performer, and create the perfect storm of great country music?
Humbert Humbert II
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too frikkin bad if is annoys you immensely. george is a great singer and has a superb knack for picking out quality songs that have hit potential. it has made him tens of millions of dollars, and has given tens of millions of folks worldwide great joy. but, that doesn't change the fact that a musician who writes their own stuff is always going to get more respect than one who doesn't. music creates an emotional bond with the listener and if the singer/band wrote the song they are performing, that is always going to resonate more strongly with the person on the other end of the concert/radio/mp3 player.
WestTxAg06
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a musician who writes their own stuff is always going to get more respect than one who doesn't.
So, in your world, Taylor Swift gets more respect for some stupid teenage love song than George Strait singing "Fool Hearted Memory" or "Marina Del Rey"?

Gotcha.
TXAG 05
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I saw Taylor Swift at the rodeo this year, and I have to say, and I am probably going to get killed for this, but she puts on better show than George. Not that showmanship determines talent, all I am saying is that she is more entertaining in concert.
20-12th Man
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Well I was counting 20 on the US charts, I believe 27 was US plus England. My original statement was oddly worded. I meant to say the Beatles having 20 number 1's is more impressive than all of Strait's number 1's on the country chart. George is great at what he does and I enjoy all of his work but honestly, The Beatles have done more for music than anyone in modern history.
Humbert Humbert II
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So, in your world, Taylor Swift gets more respect for some stupid teenage love song than George Strait singing "Fool Hearted Memory" or "Marina Del Rey"?


are you really that stupid?
of course george (or sinatra) singing another's work is better than three fegs in their mom's basement singing something they wrote. but we are talking about the best here, so i didnt think i had to spell it out for you. but i will:
when comparing musicians of equal levels of stature, someone like merle (who actually spent time in san quentin) writing about turning 21 in prison is going to get more credit/respect from fellow musicians/fans/journalists/etc than george strait singing a love song written by Eric Kaz & Steve Dorff.
that doesn't mean that george isn't one of the best ever. it does, however, mean that in the pantheon of the best ever, he is forever going to be stuck at a level slightly below the musicians in the pantheon who wrote their own stuff.
Quincey P. Morris
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I love George's music, but performance abilities? Really? I've seen him twice and I won't be spending money to go back. Two of the most entirely dull concerts I've ever been to. He was outshined by pretty much every one of his opening acts. I could have played some ambient crowd noise and put on one of his CDs and gotten pretty much the same effect. Aside from that his guitar was more or less a prop for a significant portion of the show. It acted more as a place for him to rest his hands than an instrument. He's a legendary artist to be sure, but even given that I think some of the worship if King George goes way overboard.
MAGA
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Lots of debate here about singers who write or dont write their songs,

George can write he just proved it with his latest single Living For the Night, will probably be his 58th #1.

Plus there are two other songs that he wrote on his newest album Twang which comes out on Aug 11.
MAGA
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Plus George has been so successful that song writers have written songs personally for him.

Such as:

Baby Blue
All My Ex's
Troubadour
I Saw God Today
Love Without End Amen
and many more

[This message has been edited by AggieCrew02 (edited 8/5/2009 11:02p).]
Quincey P. Morris
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It would be a lot more convincing if one of the co-writers wasn't a member of the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame.

Yes, people write things specifically for George. When you achieve the level of worship he has over the course of his career it's not in the least bit surprising.
Lippy
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We Bleed Maroon > any and all of George Strait's songs
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