The region of formerly of northern Mexico thst became Texas had its own regional cuisine historically I am sure, and it evolved differently than other regions of Mexico or formerly Mexico as different immigrant groups arrived and added to it and modified it.

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WTF are you talking about? It can and it often is. Some of the best smoked brisket I've ever eaten in my life was in NYC. I had amazing Indian food in Santa Fe, NM. The list goes on and on

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Paper Dosa rocks

And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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I always laugh when people on this board say you can't find good Mexican food outside Texas. It's not like Mexicans forgot how to cook when they go north of the Texas border, you just have to know where to look.

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Respectfully, it does matter where you go. Try northeast Pennsylvania and get back to me. They tried really hard in 2012 when all of us Texans were working the Marcellus. Tried a few before settling on a steady diet of really good Italian!

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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And for good reason! Honestly my experience is limited to Clayton NM (on the way to the ski hill) and Hobbs (work travel). Will do in a pinch but give me a garlic butter dipped beef fajita porfavor...

CDub06 said:

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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No need since New Mexican food is garbage.

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Bruce Almighty said:

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I always laugh when people on this board say you can't find good Mexican food outside Texas. It's not like Mexicans forgot how to cook when they go north of the Texas border, you just have to know where to look.

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Respectfully, it does matter where you go. Try northeast Pennsylvania and get back to me. They tried really hard in 2012 when all of us Texans were working the Marcellus. Tried a few before settling on a steady diet of really good Italian!

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Sure, there's places that may not have good Mexican, but there's also this belief that good Mexican food can't be found x number of miles past the Mexican border. That's just not true.

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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I already did.

Except SOUTHERN New Mexican is better...it's not as good the further north you go in the state. Kind of like Texas once you go north of Austin.

PSA: You can actually get some New Mexican food on N Padre Island.

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Bruce Almighty said:

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I always laugh when people on this board say you can't find good Mexican food outside Texas. It's not like Mexicans forgot how to cook when they go north of the Texas border, you just have to know where to look.

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Respectfully, it does matter where you go. Try northeast Pennsylvania and get back to me. They tried really hard in 2012 when all of us Texans were working the Marcellus. Tried a few before settling on a steady diet of really good Italian!

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Smart idea.

Why try to get a bad version of Mexican food when you can get the stuff they're REALLY good at - Italian.

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CDub06 said:

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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No need since New Mexican food is garbage.

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I always laugh when people say authentic Mexican isn't good. If you think birria, cochinita pibil, barbacoa, carnitas, pastor, mole, etc isn't good, there's something wrong with your taste buds.

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"Authentic" Mexican food can be very good when made correctly. I love pastor, carnitas, and a good mole.

I just haven't hopped on to the birria hype train that seems to have enamored white people in the last few years. I understand that it isn't anything new but now it seems to have blown up like when Chili's introduced fajitas and quesadillas to sheltered suburban white people in the 80s.

My wife and I went to a food truck here in Oregon a few weeks ago and ordered some pastor tacos and a quesadilla to share, the guy at the window had a heavy accent and was barking orders to the rest of the crew in spanish and I took that as a good sign. The tacos were great but they gave us a "quesabirria" instead of a quesadilla. After we finished eating I took the plastic baskets back to the window and they asked how we liked the food. I mentioned the quesabirria/quesadilla thing and he just laughed and said all the white people were eating birria these days and he figured that was what we meant. I didn't mind it but having what was a quesadilla dipped in greasy broth, served with a side of greasy broth for additional dipping just wasn't what I wanted.

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I always laugh when people say authentic Mexican isn't good. If you think birria, cochinita pibil, barbacoa, carnitas, pastor, mole, etc isn't good, there's something wrong with your taste buds.

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"Authentic" Mexican food can be very good when made correctly. I love pastor, carnitas, and a good mole.

I just haven't hopped on to the birria hype train that seems to have enamored white people in the last few years. I understand that it isn't anything new but now it seems to have blown up like when Chili's introduced fajitas and quesadillas to sheltered suburban white people in the 80s.

My wife and I went to a food truck here in Oregon a few weeks ago and ordered some pastor tacos and a quesadilla to share, the guy at the window had a heavy accent and was barking orders to the rest of the crew in spanish and I took that as a good sign. The tacos were great but they gave us a "quesabirria" instead of a quesadilla. After we finished eating I took the plastic baskets back to the window and they asked how we liked the food. I mentioned the quesabirria/quesadilla thing and he just laughed and said all the white people were eating birria these days and he figured that was what we meant. I didn't mind it but having what was a quesadilla dipped in greasy broth, served with a side of greasy broth for additional dipping just wasn't what I wanted.

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It's the current IPA of tacos...

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There's a lot of Texans that don't know what real Mexican food is.

They think Tex-mex is Mexican food. It's not. Mexicans, those in Mexico, eat a lot of seafood but you'll rarely see it in a menu unless you're at the right place.

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This is just false. Mexico is a big country and the cuisine differs depending on the region. Its like saying all Americans eat seafood.

If you go to Monterrey (or anywhere in the north), the cuisine is similar to Tex Mex with a lot of Tacos and carne asada being served. Seafood isn't very big in Monterrey. Monterrey cuisine is different from Mexico city cuisine which is different from Oaxaca cuisine etc.

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But his two points are still true.

1. Tex-Mex is not Mexican food.
2. Mexicans DO eat a lot of seafood. Mexican mariscos restaurants are fantastic. There's a few in the Brownsville / Port Isabel area.

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Correct and that was my point. Coastal areas of Mexico are heavily seafood, but you don't see that on menus in Texas (except fish/shrimp tacos).

This poster felt he needed to point out that not everyone in a country eats the same thing. This is like when someone says "people in America eat a lot of seafood (they do)" and then him responding with "nu huh…not in Kansas!"

I think finding good Italian food in Texas is the equivalent of looking for good Mexican food up north.

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CDub06 said:

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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I already did.

Except SOUTHERN New Mexican is better...it's not as good the further north you go in the state. Kind of like Texas once you go north of Austin.

PSA: You can actually get some New Mexican food on N Padre Island.

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I need to know where this spot on Padre is.

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CDub06 said:

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And for good reason! Honestly my experience is limited to Clayton NM (on the way to the ski hill) and Hobbs (work travel). Will do in a pinch but give me a garlic butter dipped beef fajita porfavor...

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Eastern NM sucks. That's like judging Texas and Tex Mex on trips to Amarillo and Odessa.

All you white people trying to out brown each other is highly amusing.

While I'm munching on Taco Bell happily.

That being said, Baja style is some of the best you are going to find this side of the border. Even with my love of TexMex. Just hard to beat the excessive use of fresh veggies over in MexiCali.

ETA: BTW if yall are ever in the Baja or Mexicali proper, try the Chinese food scene too. We have TexMex, they have a Chinese Mexican fusion scene just as strong. Sooooo good.

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I think finding good Italian food in Texas is the equivalent of looking for good Mexican food up north.

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Ironically every Italian restaurant in the USA sells Mexican food, aka the Caesar Salad.

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BBRex said:

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I think finding good Italian food in Texas is the equivalent of looking for good Mexican food up north.

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Ironically every Italian restaurant in the USA sells Mexican food, aka the Caesar Salad.

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Sort of. It was invented in Mexico, but by an Italian for his Italian restaurant, so not sure that really counts.

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I've seen a lot of dumb things posted on TexAgs but this has to be near the top. New Mexican food is nearly inedible. I went to some place in Santa Fe that was supposed to be the best in town and the food was trash.

Salad is not food. HTH.

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Salad is not food. HTH.

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Oh I know. As the the great philosopher Homer Simpson said, "You don't win friends with salad"

BBRex said:

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I think finding good Italian food in Texas is the equivalent of looking for good Mexican food up north.

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This is pretty true.

Most people in Texas think Olive Garden is good Italian.

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Ag with kids said:

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CDub06 said:

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And y'all still aren't ready to have the talk about New Mexican food being superior to Tex Mex.

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I already did.

Except SOUTHERN New Mexican is better...it's not as good the further north you go in the state. Kind of like Texas once you go north of Austin.

PSA: You can actually get some New Mexican food on N Padre Island.

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I need to know where this spot on Padre is.

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Salad is not food. HTH.

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True.

Salad is what food eats.

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Bruce Almighty said:

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I always laugh when people on this board say you can't find good Mexican food outside Texas. It's not like Mexicans forgot how to cook when they go north of the Texas border, you just have to know where to look.

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It's that it's harder to find. There were Mexican places in eastern Washington that were fantastic since there were tons of seasonal crop workers out there. But the popular Mexican restaurants in Seattle were universally horrible.

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This. Some of the best enchiladas I have eaten were in Cougar, Wa, at Dixie's Cafe. Dixie was an import from San Antonio.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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BBRex said:

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I think finding good Italian food in Texas is the equivalent of looking for good Mexican food up north.

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Ironically every Italian restaurant in the USA sells Mexican food, aka the Caesar Salad.

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Sort of. It was invented in Mexico, but by an Italian for his Italian restaurant, so not sure that really counts.

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Well, basically nothing created in America is considered as part of another country's cuisine (Italian, Chinese, etc), so the same logic applies to the Caesar salad.

It's either Mexican, or Italian-Mexican at most.

Never N E V E R order a chicken-fried-steak outside of Texas.

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CDub06 said:

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I've seen a lot of dumb things posted on TexAgs but this has to be near the top. New Mexican food is nearly inedible. I went to some place in Santa Fe that was supposed to be the best in town and the food was trash.

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And who told you that. Like asking for the best restaurant in San Antonio.

Living in the Midwest for the past three years (food hell if you desire spice or a flavor that isn't "gravy" or "cheese")… I have tried every single Mexican restaurant within 15 miles and found only one that was acceptable and it was a taco truck with the biggest tub of lard I've ever seen as cooking grease.

Every single recommendation I've received from people up here has been bland, tasteless garbage. The enchiladas often come with plain, unseasoned tomato sauce on them. We went to a place because everyone raved about their margaritas. They were essentially bulk sour mix, simple syrup, and bottom shelf tequila.

But let me tell you what… these people can fry the **** out of anything. I just avoid Mexican joints now and can't wait to move back to Texas this summer.

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CDub06 said:

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I've seen a lot of dumb things posted on TexAgs but this has to be near the top. New Mexican food is nearly inedible. I went to some place in Santa Fe that was supposed to be the best in town and the food was trash.

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If they managed to point you to bad food in Santa Fe, don't dare take that person's advice on anything else

While I prefer Tex Mex, New Mexican is still delicious.

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Bruce Almighty said:

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I always laugh when people say authentic Mexican isn't good. If you think birria, cochinita pibil, barbacoa, carnitas, pastor, mole, etc isn't good, there's something wrong with your taste buds.

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The problem is people misuse, misinterpret, and, frankly, just don't understand how wide ranging is the word "authentic."

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These are the people who order chicken "fajitas".

Also, mexican tacos >>>>> texmex tacos.

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Also, mexican tacos >>>>> texmex tacos.

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Well, the Mexican tacos in Acuna can smoke cigarettes and shoot ping pong balls