People Travelling with Nut Allergies

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Tree Hugger
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11:40a, 10/22/24
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I was on a flight from DFW to SFO yesterday and was in an aisle seat on row 27 (yeah, lol poor why don't you fly first class.)

One of the flight attendants made an announcement to rows 22-25 that there was a person with a severe nut allergy within three rows of them and to use discretion when considering consuming nut products (I don't remember their exact words). A similar announcement was made for rows 26-28 moments later.

Between the two announcements one person in row 25 said something that I didn't hear to the flight attendant and the attendant responded "I can only say that discretion be used" or something to that regard and then he addressed rows 26-28 with the same original statement.

By this time it was obvious who the nut allergy person was and we could easily observe that he wasn't wearing any kind of mask or other device to protect himself due to his claimed severe allergy.

The guy in the middle seat next to me cracked open a bag of almonds and said "I'm hungry and just paid $14 for these in the terminal, F that guy."

The flight continued without anyone dying.

My issue is if that someone is claiming a severe allergy, shouldn't they take physical measures to protect themselves in a closed environment such as an airplane and not expect everyone else to accommodate them? I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 11:46a, 10/22/24
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I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
but will not being comfortable kill you?
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In reply to 62strat • 11:49a, 10/22/24
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62strat said:
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I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
but will not being comfortable kill you?
Well, theoretically having my legs in a cramped position could reduce blood flow and cause a circulatory issue leading to a traumatic event. That's highly unlikely on a four-hour flight, but it is possible.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 11:53a, 10/22/24
Tree Hugger said:
My issue is if that someone is claiming a severe allergy, shouldn't they take physical measures to protect themselves in a closed environment such as an airplane and not expect everyone else to accommodate them? I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
This is a good point. This approach should still provide them with the attention they desperately desire. Unfortunately, it does leave out one crucial element: they don't get to control and inconvenience other people.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 11:54a, 10/22/24
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Tree Hugger said:
62strat said:
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I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
but will not being comfortable kill you?
Well, theoretically having my legs in a cramped position could reduce blood flow and cause a circulatory issue leading to a traumatic event. That's highly unlikely on a four-hour flight, but it is possible.
you could also easily remedy that by getting an aisle seat, or pay more for econ+ or first.

Nut allergy guy's only option is to just not fly, which may not be practical.

But make no mistake, I don't think we have room in the world for people with these severe nut allergies. That **** needs to be bred out. Like that one guy says, if eating a nut can kill you, maybe you are supposed to die.

Wife and I made sure to shove peanut butter down our kids throat early as possible to avoid this. meanwhile we hear other parents not giving their kids PB because 'they might be allergic!'

Morons.
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Tree Hugger
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In reply to 62strat • 12:04p, 10/22/24
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I was in an aisle seat, just didn't want to pay $75 extra for the exit row, I just deal with it. If the person in front of me wants to recline, that is their right to do so. I don't like it, I just deal with it. For things I can control, I buy a larger vehicle so I can drive comfortably, larger furniture, etc.

Kudos for you on the PB thing, I feel the same way.



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12:16p, 10/22/24
If his allergy is that severe he shouldn't fly. At the very least he should take precautions the prevent inhalation or consumption of nuts.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 12:17p, 10/22/24
Tree Hugger said:
I was on a flight from DFW to SFO yesterday and was in an aisle seat on row 27 (yeah, lol poor why don't you fly first class.)

One of the flight attendants made an announcement to rows 22-25 that there was a person with a severe nut allergy within three rows of them and to use discretion when considering consuming nut products (I don't remember their exact words). A similar announcement was made for rows 26-28 moments later.

Between the two announcements one person in row 25 said something that I didn't hear to the flight attendant and the attendant responded "I can only say that discretion be used" or something to that regard and then he addressed rows 26-28 with the same original statement.

By this time it was obvious who the nut allergy person was and we could easily observe that he wasn't wearing any kind of mask or other device to protect himself due to his claimed severe allergy.

The guy in the middle seat next to me cracked open a bag of almonds and said "I'm hungry and just paid $14 for these in the terminal, F that guy."

The flight continued without anyone dying.

My issue is if that someone is claiming a severe allergy, shouldn't they take physical measures to protect themselves in a closed environment such as an airplane and not expect everyone else to accommodate them? I'm a tall person and economy seats don't provide me with enough room to be comfortable but I don't expect others around me to make their travel worse to accommodate me by not reclining their chair or something, I just deal with it. Like an allergy, it's not something that I can do anything about.
Username checks out - look at me! I'm a tree hugger and into muhself. You wrote all of that to just say "why can't I eat peanuts on a plane and screw the people with a nut allergy."
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12:21p, 10/22/24
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Seriously if he was wearing an N95 and had a fatal nut allergy I wouldn't judge him one bit. Maybe he would not fly except it is an emergency.

Inconveniencing 50 strangers is super special.
Ketchup is a vegetable
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Tree Hugger
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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:23p, 10/22/24
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I didn't say any of that. My point was that if the allergy is so severe that the person in question should take precautions to protect himself and not expect others to do so for him.

A true stereotypical "tree hugger" would be expecting the entire plane to be a nut free zone.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 12:27p, 10/22/24
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exactly
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 12:28p, 10/22/24
Tree Hugger said:
I didn't say any of that. My point was that if the allergy is so severe that the person in question should take precautions to protect himself and not expect others to do so for him.

A true stereotypical "tree hugger" would be expecting the entire plane to be a nut free zone.
Ok, but you obviously weren't on Delta. Delta won't serve anyone on the plane so some airlines go even further. If you say that about nut allergies, you need to say that about anyone who has some kind of medical condition. For everyone that knows of something putting them at risk, there are many more who don't they have a condition. You have cancer patients needing to go to specialists, you have people with compromised immune systems, you have.... And, careful, one day this may be you or a loved one.

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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:30p, 10/22/24
Or maybe, just maybe, he's saying that individuals should first look to themselves to take responsibility for their own well being and evaluate whether there is anything THEY can do to help themselves in any given situation. And if there isn't, then and only then should the rest of society have to start determining whether they need to contribute to the "greater good" to aid this individual.

Wowee.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:37p, 10/22/24
jwoodmd said:
Tree Hugger said:
I didn't say any of that. My point was that if the allergy is so severe that the person in question should take precautions to protect himself and not expect others to do so for him.

A true stereotypical "tree hugger" would be expecting the entire plane to be a nut free zone.
Ok, but you obviously weren't on Delta. Delta won't serve anyone on the plane so some airlines go even further. If you say that about nut allergies, you need to say that about anyone who has some kind of medical condition. For everyone that knows of something putting them at risk, there are many more who don't they have a condition. You have cancer patients needing to go to specialists, you have people with compromised immune systems, you have.... And, careful, one day this may be you or a loved one.

What does that have to do with the original post?

Let's say this dude's allergy really is sooo severe that a little peanut dust in the air can make him sick. Do you not agree that it would be incredibly irresponsible of him not at least do SOMETHING to protect himself?

Same for the person with a compromised immune system. I'm compassionate and considerate of others, so I'll do my part not to cough, breathe, fart toward someone like that. But if you are that sick and frail you better protect yourself and not demand that others put themselves in bubbles.
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In reply to CC09LawAg • 12:37p, 10/22/24
CC09LawAg said:
Or maybe, just maybe, he's saying that individuals should first look to themselves to take responsibility for their own well being and evaluate whether there is anything THEY can do to help themselves in any given situation. And if there isn't, then and only then should the rest of society have to start determining whether they need to contribute to the "greater good" to aid this individual.

Wowee.
Yep - Wowee!! This thread is pathetic and I'm just having fun as the OP did everything describing in minutia his flight and what rows and when - he left out what shoes people were wearing and what about people going to the bathroom with nut dust on their hands.

No wonder all the over 35 nice gals on here have left.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:38p, 10/22/24
jwoodmd said:
Tree Hugger said:
I didn't say any of that. My point was that if the allergy is so severe that the person in question should take precautions to protect himself and not expect others to do so for him.

A true stereotypical "tree hugger" would be expecting the entire plane to be a nut free zone.
Ok, but you obviously weren't on Delta. Delta won't serve anyone on the plane so some airlines go even further. If you say that about nut allergies, you need to say that about anyone who has some kind of medical condition. For everyone that knows of something putting them at risk, there are many more who don't they have a condition. You have cancer patients needing to go to specialists, you have people with compromised immune systems, you have.... And, careful, one day this may be you or a loved one.

yes, it may.

but it still does not change the fact that you should have no expectation that society bend over backwards to cater to you just because you think you have or are a special case.

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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:39p, 10/22/24
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jwoodmd said:
Tree Hugger said:
I didn't say any of that. My point was that if the allergy is so severe that the person in question should take precautions to protect himself and not expect others to do so for him.

A true stereotypical "tree hugger" would be expecting the entire plane to be a nut free zone.
Ok, but you obviously weren't on Delta. Delta won't serve anyone on the plane so some airlines go even further. If you say that about nut allergies, you need to say that about anyone who has some kind of medical condition. For everyone that knows of something putting them at risk, there are many more who don't they have a condition. You have cancer patients needing to go to specialists, you have people with compromised immune systems, you have.... And, careful, one day this may be you or a loved one.


If a given airline accommodates EVERYONES conditions, then the plane would be essentially empty.
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12:43p, 10/22/24
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Yep - Wowee!! This thread is pathetic and I'm just having fun as the OP did everything describing in minutia his flight and what rows and when - he left out what shoes people were wearing and what about people going to the bathroom with nut dust on their hands.
Geez, I'm sorry that providing details and context set you off so much. I was just trying to set the scene like any good storyteller would. In my line of work, more data is always better than less data when trying to prove a point.
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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:43p, 10/22/24
OK grandpa, let's get you to bed.
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 12:46p, 10/22/24
Tree Hugger said:
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Yep - Wowee!! This thread is pathetic and I'm just having fun as the OP did everything describing in minutia his flight and what rows and when - he left out what shoes people were wearing and what about people going to the bathroom with nut dust on their hands.
Geez, I'm sorry that providing details and context set you off so much. I was just trying to set the scene like any good storyteller would. In my line of work, more data is always better than less data when trying to prove a point.
less is more.
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12:47p, 10/22/24
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Just tell them that you're traveling with your emotional support nuts.
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In reply to Beer Baron • 12:49p, 10/22/24
Beer Baron said:
Just tell them that you're traveling with your emotional support nuts.
A blue star for you - finally, a good GB response. Bravo!
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12:50p, 10/22/24
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In reply to jwoodmd • 12:51p, 10/22/24
Beer Baron always makes great nut posts
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In reply to toucan82 • 12:57p, 10/22/24
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toucan82 said:
Beer Baron always makes great nut posts
toucan is a good name for a nut allergy
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In reply to Beer Baron • 12:57p, 10/22/24
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Just tell them that you're traveling with your emotional support nuts.
you flying all of the General Board with you?
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1:03p, 10/22/24
Airborne nut allergen transference, not really a thing.
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1:11p, 10/22/24
maybe you should Fat Shame them
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In reply to Tree Hugger • 1:38p, 10/22/24
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Tree Hugger said:
I was on a flight from DFW to SFO yesterday and was in an aisle seat on row 27 (yeah, lol poor why don't you fly first class.)

I feel like this detail is overlooked.
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In reply to TecRecAg • 1:56p, 10/22/24
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TecRecAg said:
Tree Hugger said:
I was on a flight from DFW to SFO yesterday and was in an aisle seat on row 27 (yeah, lol poor why don't you fly first class.)

I feel like this detail is overlooked.
you mean Small Fact Overlooked?
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2:09p, 10/22/24
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You know who doesn't have a nut allergy? OP's mom.
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In reply to 62strat • 2:13p, 10/22/24
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62strat said:
TecRecAg said:
Tree Hugger said:
I was on a flight from DFW to SFO yesterday and was in an aisle seat on row 27 (yeah, lol poor why don't you fly first class.)

I feel like this detail is overlooked.
you mean Small Fact Overlooked?
and I was criticized for too much detail. SFO was a short connection to EUG, I wasn't even out of my seat from the first (nut allergy) flight and the next was already boarding, luckily I only had to move from E11 to E4.
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2:24p, 10/22/24
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Yeah, I agree that's pretty over the top especially if he wasn't taking other precautions. My daughter has a peanut/tree nut allergy. With tree nuts, she has to consume them to react, and then it's just hives. But her peanut allergy is airborne and severe. She's flown close to 100 times and we've never mentioned this to an FA except for when we're in 1st, and then I just tell them when we board so they don't bring the nut mix to our seats. Other than that, we carry multiple EpiPens and I wipe down her seat area and mine with Clorox wipes when we sit down.

On the rare occasion someone sitting next to her has eaten something with peanuts (this has happened maybe three times?), I just switched seats with her and had her put on a mask. I've always taught her that her allergy is her responsibility (and mine while she's a child). I'd never expect them to make an announcement or for anyone on board to change what they're doing.
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In reply to aglaohfour • 3:23p, 10/22/24
Personal accountability, well done!
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3:52p, 10/22/24
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They are nuts!
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