Perhaps? Thoughts on the et reality? Are you pleased that a general public disclosure might be in the works?maroon barchetta said:
Linda Moulton Howell and Art Bell had a love child.
His name is Thanos.
maroon barchetta said:
I wish it was true.
I don't believe it to be true.
That's OK. It's good to keep this thread alive. It's folks such as you that may have a hard time coping when the time does come. Many are looking for our gov and or MSM to give them permission. The dots are becoming dashes...maroon barchetta said:
I wish it was true.
I don't believe it to be true.
Aztec1948 said:Interesting. What if these civilizations have been around for several billion more years than us? Thats a lot of time to figure out alternative energy/propulsion systems. What if that involved "folding" space? Do you ignore the many testimonies not only from the past, but current ones via Grusch et. al.? Really curious how the hyper-sceptic navigates those. Not saying that's bad either...we are all wired differently. How much have you looked into this reality? Is there anything that would make you uncomfortable if/when we do have a general disclosure/acceptance of this?jkag89 said:The absolute size of the universe leads me to believe this. While this makes it highly likely that other intelligent life has evolved elsewhere it also I means there is a miniscule chance that two or more such civilizations could do so in a relatively close proximity to each other and in relatively same time frame.Aztec1948 said:Why do you think it is highly unlikely?jkag89 said:Who has told you otherwise?Aztec1948 said:Who told you this?HossAg said:
Aliens have never been to earth.
While I can not dismiss it out of hand, I do think it highly unlikely that ET has visited Earth.
"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs (EXTRATERRESTRIAL vehicle) recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI
The security guard called and said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.
"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.
"Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs." CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955.
"It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
"We alone cannot take credit for our technological advances,we have had help from people of other worlds". Dr. Herman Oberth, father of rocketry and aeronautics - American Weekly 1954
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -William Casey, CIA director, 1981
"Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn't come out. " Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World
AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida.
"There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. " Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987)
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this Earth".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
"There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US populace which is extremely unethical and immoral. We are most definitely not alone."- 36-year-old David Grusch has served in the Air Force for 14 years and is a decorated Afghanistan combat officer who had earlier worked with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA).
"What concerns me is that there is no 'Oversight' from our elected officials on anything associated with our government possessing or working on craft that we believe are not from this world"Retired Navy Cmdr. David Fravor
"I recall the oversight committees asking about long-rumored UAP satellite data back in 2017 when I first brought the committees unclassified military UAP videos and worked with Lue Elizondo to make introductions to Navy aviators. The fact this data has still not been shared with the oversight committees is simply outrageous. AARO and the Administration cannot claim to be acting in good faith on the UAP issue while blatantly ignoring these lawful requests." ~Chris Mellon- former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence
Retired Army Karl Nell went on the record to The DeBrief, stating of Grusch, "His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence."
REMOTE VIEWING data (a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute for military espionage purposes) PER FARSIGHT INSTITUTE suggests...that 3 major religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam were all developed and maintained by extraterrestrials. Sodom and Gomorah is not simply a myth and it wasn't a loving god who erased both of those cities..including the children. Mohamed did in fact meet someone in the cave...the true nature of the "angel" Gabriel is very interesting...
MEANINGFUL, full-blown congressional hearings with power to subpoena must be held. The constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL (This is the reality "they" really DON'T want disclosed) and SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS cover-ups must be exposed. Just what are the results from the decades of back-engineering recovered non-human materials and craft? Who has been footing the bill for that? The legal/moral sources... How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say? The longer an "official" disclosure is delayed...the more disruptive it could be. And that would be just a start. Our government has been gifted a golden opportunity here to prove their worth. To restore at least some measure of trust. The general public is waiting to be given permission to believe...to know.
No more dog and pony shows.
Yep and this one as well...Ghost of Bisbee said:Aztec1948 said:Interesting. What if these civilizations have been around for several billion more years than us? Thats a lot of time to figure out alternative energy/propulsion systems. What if that involved "folding" space? Do you ignore the many testimonies not only from the past, but current ones via Grusch et. al.? Really curious how the hyper-sceptic navigates those. Not saying that's bad either...we are all wired differently. How much have you looked into this reality? Is there anything that would make you uncomfortable if/when we do have a general disclosure/acceptance of this?jkag89 said:The absolute size of the universe leads me to believe this. While this makes it highly likely that other intelligent life has evolved elsewhere it also I means there is a miniscule chance that two or more such civilizations could do so in a relatively close proximity to each other and in relatively same time frame.Aztec1948 said:Why do you think it is highly unlikely?jkag89 said:Who has told you otherwise?Aztec1948 said:Who told you this?HossAg said:
Aliens have never been to earth.
While I can not dismiss it out of hand, I do think it highly unlikely that ET has visited Earth.
"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs (EXTRATERRESTRIAL vehicle) recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI
The security guard called and said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.
"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.
"Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs." CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955.
"It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
"We alone cannot take credit for our technological advances,we have had help from people of other worlds". Dr. Herman Oberth, father of rocketry and aeronautics - American Weekly 1954
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -William Casey, CIA director, 1981
"Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn't come out. " Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World
AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida.
"There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. " Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987)
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this Earth".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
"There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US populace which is extremely unethical and immoral. We are most definitely not alone."- 36-year-old David Grusch has served in the Air Force for 14 years and is a decorated Afghanistan combat officer who had earlier worked with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA).
"What concerns me is that there is no 'Oversight' from our elected officials on anything associated with our government possessing or working on craft that we believe are not from this world"Retired Navy Cmdr. David Fravor
"I recall the oversight committees asking about long-rumored UAP satellite data back in 2017 when I first brought the committees unclassified military UAP videos and worked with Lue Elizondo to make introductions to Navy aviators. The fact this data has still not been shared with the oversight committees is simply outrageous. AARO and the Administration cannot claim to be acting in good faith on the UAP issue while blatantly ignoring these lawful requests." ~Chris Mellon- former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence
Retired Army Karl Nell went on the record to The DeBrief, stating of Grusch, "His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence."
REMOTE VIEWING data (a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute for military espionage purposes) PER FARSIGHT INSTITUTE suggests...that 3 major religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam were all developed and maintained by extraterrestrials. Sodom and Gomorah is not simply a myth and it wasn't a loving god who erased both of those cities..including the children. Mohamed did in fact meet someone in the cave...the true nature of the "angel" Gabriel is very interesting...
MEANINGFUL, full-blown congressional hearings with power to subpoena must be held. The constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL (This is the reality "they" really DON'T want disclosed) and SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS cover-ups must be exposed. Just what are the results from the decades of back-engineering recovered non-human materials and craft? Who has been footing the bill for that? The legal/moral sources... How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say? The longer an "official" disclosure is delayed...the more disruptive it could be. And that would be just a start. Our government has been gifted a golden opportunity here to prove their worth. To restore at least some measure of trust. The general public is waiting to be given permission to believe...to know.
No more dog and pony shows.
Say what
Author and world's leading UFO researcher Richard Dolan also writes about this incident in his book "UFOs and the National Security State: The Cover-Up Exposed. According to his book, there are claims that President Carter was given a UFO briefing at the White House on June 14, 1977, which he was then bound to secrecy about.Quote:
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"Yes, the incident of Jimmy Carter crying after being briefed about classified information regarding UFO's is largely believed to be true by the serious researchers on the subject. As a forewarning, the following information is very unsettling and will explain why Carter never "kept his promise" of revealing classified UFO information to the public.
According to the story that was corroborated by more than one witness, U.S. presidents are only given a cursory overview of the subject. Apparently, the CIA runs the program, only provide information to the President on a need-to-know basis, and do not consider presidential curiosity as sufficient need to know. This was implemented after Kennedy, and all presidents after him have been given only summary briefings (some presidents for unknown reasons were given more than others).
Okay on to your question. President Carter is a deeply religious man who had also witnessed a UFO with 6 other people. Everyone thought that he would be the one to finally release UFO info to the public but as the story goes, he was repeatedly stonewalled. Eventually, the CIA had "the talk" with him, and afterward it was reported that he sunk his head in his hands and not only began to deeply sob but was visibly disturbed for some weeks afterward.
What was he told and shown?
He was told that the major religions including Christianity were programs created by extraterrestrials to prevent us from destroying ourselves while they ran their experiments on us and that they made us. At this moment it became clear to Carter that such information could cause tremendous economic and social upheaval. I should add that I am not only a Christian but a clergyman, so I am in no way attempting to promote atheism here. In fact, how God fits into this might be an interesting separate post. Nevertheless, these are the facts as I know them to be".
- Ed Harris Former Research Associate at NASA Ames Research Center
Man, I did the 1st half at Kyle. Too hot. It was awesome not hearing that abortion of an entrance piece, "power" though. I'd post the lyrics here, but the TA profanity algorithm will not permit. (ponder that one..) Moot at this point as the garbage was tossed and thank God almighty, we are free at last. Sad history for A&M. How/why it ever passed vetting, we will most likely never know.Ghost of Bisbee said:
Spydey, you takin a break from ETs today to watch Ags BTFO Auburn?
Unless there is an intensely maintained cover-up in place. It's too bad Lazar didn't smuggle a photo out of S4.NoahAg said:
If these things were so prominent there would be at least ONE real, confirmed photo. But it's always an anonymous, second-hand report.
Takes a special breed....MAS444 said:
Why are these UFO authorities all so crazy looking/sounding?
It's almost like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing in these unacknowledged programs huh? I wonder what the core secret is?jkag89 said:
You would think with all the help from advanced alien tech that the Boeing Starliner would have far surpassed the SpaceX Crew Dragon. Crew Dragon 10 complete manned missions, one ongoing mission. Starliner two partially successful unmanned mission.
McDonald Douglas no longer exists as a separate entity, It was bought by Boeing in the late '90s. That makes Boeing's failure with Starliner all that much worse since the got a double helping of alien tech.Quote:
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You got me man....I'm meltingjkag89 said:McDonald Douglas no longer exists as a separate entity, It was bought by Boeing in the late '90s. That makes Boeing's failure with Starliner all that much worse since the got a double helping of alien tech.Quote:
McDonald Douglas
Grusch/Greer know a heck of lot more regarding who all has been or is currently..hopefully David's list will be public as he has been told "where to look".maroon barchetta said:
Post the list!
Me too my friend. But first, a simple acknowledgement of the reality needs to occur first. Based on Rich's statement, perhaps whatever tech it might take to get us to the stars. Col. Corso talks about many tech things that were developed or assisted in such as...Kevlar, IR night vision, fiber optics, integrated circuits. These items were supposedly recovered from the craft crash in NM in 1947. Remember, we apparently have been at this since at least 1947. No telling what we have developed at this point. And just who all has access to it...maroon barchetta said:
I want the list of the tech. Not hearsay of who might have used the tech or who heard a guy say in a speech that someone has the tech.
So we used alien tech to beat the Russkies to the Moon? Were the aliens that crashed on US soil more advanced than the ones that crashed on Soviet soil?Quote:
Northrop Grumman (one of Dr. Greer's uncles helped develop the lunar lander here)
