Are car dealers negotiating on new cars at all?

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B-1 83
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I know supplies are/were short, and the pricing was tight for a while.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
YellAgs
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Not if you want a decent car.
aggie_wes
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Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
TSJ
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B-1 83 said:

I know supplies are/were short, and the pricing was tight for a while.


So when are you going to reply on the auto-board so we can get that g35 off your step-sons hands?
B-1 83
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aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
BBRex
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Probably not as loud as you'd like.
maroon barchetta
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No. They are telling you "we are adding on a $xxxx market adjustment and you will pay that or we will find another buyer in a few hours."
Claude!
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B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.
AliasMan02
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Yeah our last car purchases have all had money knocked off if we financed
aggie_wes
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Same. They make more money if you finance.
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A-A Ron
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Brother was looking at a 22 Trailblazer in Breckenridge TX (middle of no where) marked up 2000 over msrp and the dealer said I cut you a deal by not marking it up 4000 over. Take it or leave it. But he would deliver it for free.
wcb
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Bought one last month. We bought local and paid $1500 over MSRP. They said if you're from out of town you pay $4k over MSRP. Said guys are bragging in Dallas selling high end vehicles for $15k over MSRP.

That and we had to make a down payment to reserve the one we wanted before it arrived. They're literally sold before they hit the lot.
lotsofhp
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No they're not making any deals and I doubt they're in a hurry for the situation to improve.
Doctor Rosenrosen
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Claude! said:

B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.
Why people always think this "cash on the barrel" **** still holds today? It's not the Great Depression,

The. Dealership. Does. Not. Care. Where. You. Get. The. Money. In fact, they would love to loan it to you!!
aggiepaintrain
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dealers don't care how you pay they get cash no matter what

if you want a toyota I can get you one for sticker
B-1 83
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Doctor Rosenrosen said:

Claude! said:

B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.
Why people always think this "cash on the barrel" **** still holds today? It's not the Great Depression,

The. Dealership. Does. Not. Care. Where. You. Get. The. Money. In fact, they would love to loan it to you!!
Are you saying the dealership will sell me the vehicle cheaper, after going through the financing paperwork, only to have me pay it off in one month?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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B-1 83
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C@LAg said:

B-1 83 said:

Doctor Rosenrosen said:

Claude! said:

B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.
Why people always think this "cash on the barrel" **** still holds today? It's not the Great Depression,

The. Dealership. Does. Not. Care. Where. You. Get. The. Money. In fact, they would love to loan it to you!!
Are you saying the dealership will sell me the vehicle cheaper, after going through the financing paperwork, only to have me pay it off in one month?
many financing deals have penalties in place if you pay off your loan early. so that is an extra cost.
They told me there would be no math.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Doctor Rosenrosen
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B-1 83 said:

Doctor Rosenrosen said:

Claude! said:

B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.
Why people always think this "cash on the barrel" **** still holds today? It's not the Great Depression,

The. Dealership. Does. Not. Care. Where. You. Get. The. Money. In fact, they would love to loan it to you!!
Are you saying the dealership will sell me the vehicle cheaper, after going through the financing paperwork, only to have me pay it off in one month?
Yes that is what I'm telling you.
etmydst
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Probably no fees after 90 days.
42
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Wait until the end of the year. Things I've read is that inventory of the computer chips that go in cars should be back up to normal manufacturing rates, allowing auto manufacturers to start producing higher volumes and dealerships to increase inventories.

This will also start reducing the prices in used vehicles. But if you are looking to buy now and have a trade-in, do your research on the going rate for your current vehicle, so you can negotiate and maximize the trade-in value.
lotsofhp
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42 said:

Wait until the end of the year. Things I've read is that inventory of the computer chips that go in cars should be back up to normal manufacturing rates, allowing auto manufacturers to start producing higher volumes and dealerships to increase inventories.

This will also start reducing the prices in used vehicles. But if you are looking to buy now and have a trade-in, do your research on the going rate for your current vehicle, so you can negotiate and maximize the trade-in value.


Not that it matter for me because I already got the screws put to me on a new van, but do you have any links to support this? Would love to read some good news
lb3
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I talked a dealer down from $7k over MSRP TO $5500 over MSRP so there is still room to negotiate. But not enough for me to close a deal on a loaner vehicle with 3,000 miles that was waiting on a gauge cluster replacement.
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B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.


It's not 1983 anymore. Cash is less appealing. They make their money on financing and dealer add-ons
DannyDuberstein
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And there are a lot of people who plan to pay it off in one month, but then once it's all in place, they decide they'd rather hang onto the cash and keep paying that low rate.
Doctor Rosenrosen
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DannyDuberstein said:

And there are a lot of people who plan to pay it off in one month, but then once it's all in place, they decide they'd rather hang onto the cash and keep paying that low rate.
And by that point they auto finance Corp will have long sold off the loan
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lotsofhp said:

No they're not making any deals and I doubt they're in a hurry for the situation to improve.
Yeah, I don't know how independent the dealers are from the manufacturers, but I'm skeptical that Jimmy Joe Mac Davis down at Friendly Ford is ever going to announce that his prices have come back to earth after more than a year of rocking back in his chair with his hands behind his head, telling customers that they need to finance through him, take it or leave it.
bmks270
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Find dealers that provide true car pricing at truecar.com. Take in a true car quote on the last day of the month. I actually was able to negotiate a deal over the phone on the last day of the month for my Mom 3 weeks ago. They came down to MSRP and said they would sell it at that price if she came in that day, and they did. May depend somewhat on the model, if there is some inventory at a few local dealers I think they're very likely to come down or give you the true car price.
Micah97
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We need a new vehicle, but don't want to buy in this market. We are going to make it stretch until the end of the year. If the market has not stabilized by the end of the year, we are going to lease until it does. I hate the idea of leasing, but as much as overpaying for a vehicle.
B-1 83
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bmks270 said:

Find dealers that provide true car pricing at truecar.com. Take in a true car quote on the last day of the month. I actually was able to negotiate a deal over the phone on the last day of the month for my Mom 3 weeks ago. They came down to MSRP and said they would sell it at that price if she came in that day, and they did. May depend somewhat on the model, if there is some inventory at a few local dealers I think they're very likely to come down or give you the true car price.
The one I'm looking at is really tight to the Trucar price.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Ags4DaWin
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Claude! said:

B-1 83 said:

aggie_wes said:

Not really. If they have any in stock, they are selling within a week or two even with dealer add-ons and market adjustments.
I was afraid of that. I just hope cash talks.
They'd probably rather you finance.


the dealers are almost all internally financed now.

they prefer you finance through them instead of paying cash because they make an additional 30% on the car when you do.

a small mom and pop used car dealership will like cash. but that's about it.
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aggiepaintrain said:

dealers don't care how you pay they get cash no matter what

if you want a toyota I can get you one for sticker
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