Um, the moms were, well, moms. I can't say they were at all...attractive. In fact, the ones that were the most 'into it', were usually fairly....large, and um....fugly. Not every mom was 'into it', the ones 'into it' were weird, and it really created a bizarre atmosphere. It was a 'win at any cost' type atmosphere.

So tell your friend to eliminate that fantasy from his/her list.

Haven't laughed this hard on a thread in a long time.

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Every cheer event you go to will proclaim the winner "National Champs"!

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I watched that Netflix show and it talked all the time about how Navarro College won the national championship every year and there was so much pressure to repeat.

I was impressed so I looked it up. Turns out there is only one other school that competes in their division.

Follow the money.

There are a few cheerleader supply companies and they all produce their individual National Championships. You must purchase your equipment from them. Teams pay fee's to participate and participants spend thousands of dollars to "compete".

There are several millionaires in this business. There are also thousands of chubby moms who never were selected for cheerleader but will spend thousands to live through their child.

It is a very sad scenario.

I dated a girl that was into this in high school for a bit. She was completely crazy and over-sexualized and yet I never got the impression she understood the mechanics of human sex. Just like the cheerleading, it was all a bizarre act. Her mom was a raving lunatic. That lasted for all of 3 weeks.

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Um, the moms were, well, moms. I can't say they were at all...attractive. In fact, the ones that were the most 'into it', were usually fairly....large, and um....fugly. Not every mom was 'into it', the ones 'into it' were weird, and it really created a bizarre atmosphere. It was a 'win at any cost' type atmosphere.

So tell your friend to eliminate that fantasy from his/her list.

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It was my fantasy. Thanks for ruining it.

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1988PA-Aggie said:

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Um, the moms were, well, moms. I can't say they were at all...attractive. In fact, the ones that were the most 'into it', were usually fairly....large, and um....fugly. Not every mom was 'into it', the ones 'into it' were weird, and it really created a bizarre atmosphere. It was a 'win at any cost' type atmosphere.

So tell your friend to eliminate that fantasy from his/her list.

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It was my fantasy. Thanks for ruining it.

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Don't give up. One man's "fairly large and fugly" is another mans...ah, never mind.

Sorry.

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My little brother did this. Quit football and joined cheerleading. All his friends laughed at him, extended family laughed at him, dad and I rolled our eyes because we knew EXACTLY what he was up to. He plowed his way through every single one of those girls for a year and a half then got a scholarship for it.

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So I assume that your brother is a multi-billionaire because he figured out how to tap into a endless pipeline of crazy hotties and then get free college where the same pipeline is bigger and the crazy gets mixed with more booze?

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For the same reasons that little girls are interested in getting into it. Tumbling around and really cute sparkly outfits, makeup and hair.

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Then why are they people attracted to that?

You could make a Euphoria episode out of this post

wbt5845 said:

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Imagine select baseball and select soccer - distill down to the hyper-focused 1% of each - overly sexualize pre-pubescent the girls - and you've arrived at your destination.

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Of course you were the first one to reply

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atag said:

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For the same reasons that little girls are interested in getting into it. Tumbling around and really cute sparkly outfits, makeup and hair.

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Then why are they people attracted to that?

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Wbt?

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FIDO*98* said:

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Oh no, another sport where kids can have fun being a part of a team instead of sitting around doing nothing all weekend. Let's boo these people and those who are involved and support it

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We found the cheer dad.

All I asked for was an explanation. Someone actually semi-explained it without getting their bloomers in a knot. The concept of cheering for an invisible "team" and the vast majority never being on a real sports cheering squad (that nobody at the game, other than their parents, pays attention to) seems a little odd. It's like a football team playing with nobody on the other side of the ball.

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For the vast majority of competitive "cheer" teams, there is no cheering involved - so they truly aren't cheering for anyone.

All-Star cheer teams will perform a routine in which they are judged based on: tumbling, stunting, jumps, etc. As others have said, it is like gymnastics, only the floor routine is coordinated among 15+ people

Yes every competition has multiple division levels and age groups and all of them have a winner. Some competitions claim them as "national champs". Most people involved in cheer know these are a dime a dozen. The true winners, in my mind, are the teams that score "high point" for the comps. This means regardless of level, division, and age group that team beat them all. If a team wins a "Bid" to the Summit competition at Disney World, that is quite an achievement as well. Most competitions have 3-5 bids to offer and 100s, sometimes 1000s, of teams are going for them.

Both my son and daughter are involved and really enjoy it. I do too honestly. It keeps them active (all the time!) and there are true winners and losers.

Regional comps are meh. The big ones are Cheersport in Atlanta, NCA in Dallas, and UCA in Orlando. and the invitational Summit mentioned above. Win those and you have really achieved something.

A poster above mentioned over sexualization and creepy things happening on cheer trips. I have honestly never seen that and can only guess it may be a gym specific culture. Parents at our gym are with their children except when they are practicing or performing.

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My little brother did this. Quit football and joined cheerleading. All his friends laughed at him, extended family laughed at him, dad and I rolled our eyes because we knew EXACTLY what he was up to. He plowed his way through every single one of those girls for a year and a half then got a scholarship for it.

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He got a scholarship for plowing cheerleaders or for cheering. Or is that the same thing if you aren't gay?

Good reply gigemags-99. Similar to my experiences. Youngest daughter has been involved for 4-5 yrs. Started out simply because she liked tumbling (and wanted to get beyond what she could teach herself). And it helped her make the actual school cheerleading team which was very competitive (last year they selected 30 girls out of 104 that tried out).

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B-1 83 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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Oh no, another sport where kids can have fun being a part of a team instead of sitting around doing nothing all weekend. Let's boo these people and those who are involved and support it

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We found the cheer dad.

All I asked for was an explanation. Someone actually semi-explained it without getting their bloomers in a knot. The concept of cheering for an invisible "team" and the vast majority never being on a real sports cheering squad (that nobody at the game, other than their parents, pays attention to) seems a little odd. It's like a football team playing with nobody on the other side of the ball.

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If a team wins a "Bid" to the Summit competition at Disney World, that is quite an achievement as well. Most competitions have 3-5 bids to offer and 100s, sometimes 1000s, of teams are going for them.

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How many qualifying events are there in a season?

I found a site that appears to list more than 1,200 Summit Bid Winners (at large, wild card, and paid) awarded in the last 6 months: 10/2021 to 4/2022. Is that the same thing?

Are there qualifying events that are not owned by the Summit sponsor?

I don't allow my daughter to do cheerleading. I tell her to do something that others can cheer for her.
I don't like how they are sexualizing little girls and schools are complicit.

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I don't allow my daughter to do cheerleading. I tell her to do something that others can cheer for her.
I don't like how they are sexualizing little girls and schools are complicit.

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This isn't a school thing…

Keep up this energy though about sexualizing females lol…

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will25u said:

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MAYHEM BETWEEN CHRIS ROCK AND WILL SMITH AT THE #Oscars https://t.co/265hGbsEDg

— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) March 28, 2022

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Mmm Penelope has a nice rack.

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gigemags-99 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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FIDO*98* said:

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Oh no, another sport where kids can have fun being a part of a team instead of sitting around doing nothing all weekend. Let's boo these people and those who are involved and support it

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We found the cheer dad.

All I asked for was an explanation. Someone actually semi-explained it without getting their bloomers in a knot. The concept of cheering for an invisible "team" and the vast majority never being on a real sports cheering squad (that nobody at the game, other than their parents, pays attention to) seems a little odd. It's like a football team playing with nobody on the other side of the ball.

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If a team wins a "Bid" to the Summit competition at Disney World, that is quite an achievement as well. Most competitions have 3-5 bids to offer and 100s, sometimes 1000s, of teams are going for them.

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How many qualifying events are there in a season?

I found a site that appears to list more than 1,200 Summit Bid Winners (at large, wild card, and paid) awarded in the last 6 months: 10/2021 to 4/2022. Is that the same thing?

Are there qualifying events that are not owned by the Summit sponsor?

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A company called VARSITY is the "it" thing when is comes to competitions and really anything cheer related (including uniforms, etc). I honestly think it is a monopoly, but it is what it is.

The amount of bids you mentioned seems about right. There are 3 different Summits though. 1. "Worlds" (these are the teams you will see on ESPN and usually THE top teams at a D1 gym) 2. "D1" gyms ( these are Large gyms that have over 125 athletes) 3, "D2" gyms (at or under 125 athletes)

The bids are also more valuable in the following order:
3. "Wild Card" - you have to compete on a Friday at Summit/Disney to even get a chance to compete for the whole enchilada (finish top 5 out of 100+ in your division and you get to go against the teams that got
2. "At Large" bids or
1. "Paid" bids - Main difference between At Large and Paid is that you get comp entry fees and a 3 day Disney park hopper pass covered with "Paid".

Even with a Paid or At Large bid, the team still has to compete against approximately 100 other teams in their division on Day 1 (Saturday) and make the top 10-15 to even get to compete on Day 2 (Sunday). So it really is the best of the best of the best.

Edit: the bids get Much more rare as you move from Wild Card to Paid bids. My son's team has a paid bid and there are only 8 - 10 teams in the same division with that level of bid from Nov 2021 until now.

When my daughter was young, preschool, we used to take her with us to watch high school football. We always pointed out the cheerleaders, and the fact that every one of them was wearing a knee-brace. We would say, "See that, don't be a cheerleader. Do something safe like play football."

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When my daughter was young, preschool, we used to take her with us to watch high school football. We always pointed out the cheerleaders, and the fact that every one of them was wearing a knee-brace. We would say, "See that, don't be a cheerleader. Do something safe like play football."

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This is a true statement. Competitive cheerleaders are prone to get concussions as well.

gigemags-99 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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Oh no, another sport where kids can have fun being a part of a team instead of sitting around doing nothing all weekend. Let's boo these people and those who are involved and support it

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We found the cheer dad.

All I asked for was an explanation. Someone actually semi-explained it without getting their bloomers in a knot. The concept of cheering for an invisible "team" and the vast majority never being on a real sports cheering squad (that nobody at the game, other than their parents, pays attention to) seems a little odd. It's like a football team playing with nobody on the other side of the ball.

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For the vast majority of competitive "cheer" teams, there is no cheering involved - so they truly aren't cheering for anyone.

All-Star cheer teams will perform a routine in which they are judged based on: tumbling, stunting, jumps, etc. As others have said, it is like gymnastics, only the floor routine is coordinated among 15+ people

Yes every competition has multiple division levels and age groups and all of them have a winner. Some competitions claim them as "national champs". Most people involved in cheer know these are a dime a dozen. The true winners, in my mind, are the teams that score "high point" for the comps. This means regardless of level, division, and age group that team beat them all. If a team wins a "Bid" to the Summit competition at Disney World, that is quite an achievement as well. Most competitions have 3-5 bids to offer and 100s, sometimes 1000s, of teams are going for them.

Both my son and daughter are involved and really enjoy it. I do too honestly. It keeps them active (all the time!) and there are true winners and losers.

Regional comps are meh. The big ones are Cheersport in Atlanta, NCA in Dallas, and UCA in Orlando. and the invitational Summit mentioned above. Win those and you have really achieved something.

A poster above mentioned over sexualization and creepy things happening on cheer trips. I have honestly never seen that and can only guess it may be a gym specific culture. Parents at our gym are with their children except when they are practicing or performing.

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Sounds like "Synchronized Gymnastics while wearing cheerleading attire" at that point.

I guess similar…but that title isn't as succinct as "Cheer". and they don't do stunting in gymnastics. But apparently we will get to see cheer and gymnastics side by side in the next summer Olympics.

It's a VERY expensive, multi-year venture focused on one child, the money for which could go to many full-family vacations or a sizable college fund.

ttt 4 cheer

TexasAggie81 said:

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It's a VERY expensive, multi-year venture focused on one child, the money for which could go to many full-family vacations or a sizable college fund.

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Same could be said for just about anything you chose to put your money towards other than a family vacation or a college fund.

My daughter graduates this year and has a nice college cheer scholarship coming her way.

Your shtick bleeds over to other boards? You equating sexualizing little girls to grown women shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

CC09LawAg said:

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Your shtick bleeds over to other boards? You equating sexualizing little girls to grown women shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

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Lighten up Francis. Of course there's a difference, but still relates to respect. Maybe stick to F16 if you don't want your feelings hurt.

And the backtrack, per usual. Sensationalize something and go way overboard so that when you retract it, you've attempted to normalize the little bit of ground you perceive you gained.

Like clockwork.

TexasAggie81 said:

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It's a VERY expensive, multi-year venture focused on one child, the money for which could go to many full-family vacations or a sizable college fund.

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ANY athletic event that holds a national championship on Disney property is going to be expensive.

Youth 3v3 soccer does the same thing with "qualifying events" to maintain revenue throughout the season. Either win or simply go to enough and you'll "qualify" to go spend more money at Disney.

My kid did it at Cheer Athletics for about 5 years. I'd call it a mix of tumbling, stunts, and dance. She transitioned to it when she got bored with gymnastics. It's been about 5 years since she quit, and other than obsessed parents, we never had any weird stuff with her teams. No team slumber parties. The out-of-town stuff was still fairly minimal back then, maybe 2 out of town competitions per year and at least for her no staying in other rooms BS. Her teams were usually all girl vs coed. It seems to have gotten significantly more crazy by the year. But it has to be a money printing machine

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And the backtrack, per usual. Sensationalize something and go way overboard so that when you retract it, you've attempted to normalize the little bit of ground you perceive you gained.

Like clockwork.

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I didn't retract anything.