1) The safest place to be is NOT inside your home, where air is recycled and aerosols linger. The safest place is outside where you can process vitamin D and natural UV rays kill the virus and the wind disperses it so that the viral load is a subinfective concentration.
2) Spreading some amount of germs actually keeps ur immune system well tuned and healthy. I am doing no more or less than I have done in the past. After washing my hands in a public restroom I have ALWAYS kept the papertowel i dried my hands with and used it to grab the door handle because so many people do not wash their hands.
3) I have always used my butt, shoulder, side to open push doors instead of grabbing handles .
4) I have always used a knuckle to key in my pin on debit transactions.

I have always done those things to avoid the dirtiest places where germs reside. That being said all those people who are full on quarantining are going to be worse off once cold and flu season arrives because their immune systems are going to be much weaker than those who have gotten some more exposure to potential pathogens.

You think they are recommending a lockdown for the GOOD of people when this virus as a 99.97 recovery rate?

Ha! just wait until they lock us down with another scare come December due to the flu because everyone's immune system is crap from all this isolation.

Get over it. 99.97% recovery rate and improving everyday is a great statistic. Better than the flu recovery rate for the past 3 years running.

I never quarantined to begin with. I wear the stupid mask when I have to. I have no fears about shaking hands when I greet people (if they initiate it).

The only people I know who are actively 'quarantining' are people with legitimate medical concerns for themselves or for family, and insufferable virtue signalers with a martyr/victim complex.

Been at the office every day since this all started. We did suspend office appointments for a couple of months, but continued to have clients come in and drop off or pick up their information. We are back to having appointments. If it weren't for the county mandate, I would not require masks. However, I am trying to be respectful of my clients, so when they come in and need to see me, I don one. Been going to happy hour pretty much from day one on a regular basis. I figure if I get it, I get it. (In fact, I feel quite sure I had it early spring before it came that big a deal). I'd just as soon get immune to it and keep on going.

Having said that, I respect anybody else's desire to stay home and minimize their risk. I don't know their situation and won't impose my thoughts on them. However, don't make me stay home. I have too many clients whose businesses may not recover from this. I am heartbroken for them as most were counting on these to get them to retirement. Now they will be forced to look for work elsewhere and probably work another decade longer than originally planned.

Never stopped going to work, vacations, restaurants/bars except the ones that got shut down.

Here's the real problem: the temporary solution is that it might be better to live on your knees than die on your feet. But if you just keep living on your knees, you're ultimately just going to die on your knees. #KamaHarrisJoke

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This thread is going to devolve into a stupid pissing match.

You go do you and leave me the hell alone.

If people would just mind their own business and don't feel the need to interject their opinions into everything, things would be much better. This applies to both sides of the Covid spectrum.

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You must have a job.
You probably haven't lost your small business.
You probably don't know any hotel owners who are sitting at 15% occupancy.
Oh, I bet you don't know of any bar owners that had to shut down their business.

Does your dumb ass even vote?

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Here you are going off assuming things you have no clue about because you think you're smarter than what you actually are.

You have no idea how I feel about those things because I haven't said anything about it.

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Just curious what you mean by things are pretty bad in houston. Why do you feel that way?

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Just curious what you mean by things are pretty bad in houston. Why do you feel that way?

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New cases daily in Houston are considerably higher than in most places. But getting better.

I'm a teacher so summer has been pretty normal. Traveled quite a bit, go to stores as needed, outdoor bars (occasionally), visit with friends. So nope. Ready to get back to work.

The only good thing to come of this is now the general public is more aware of touching things, sneezing on things, Washing their hands, staying home if you're sick, so hopefully normal cold & flu seasons will be better.

Work from home
Don't eat out
Kids in daycare finally

almost there

I've traveled for working virtually every week since this started. Been to over 30 states and 3 countries. Only worn a mask when required for work or due to local ordinances. Wash my hands and that's it. I don't go around cleaning surfaces or wiping everything down that I touch.

I then come home to my wife and 2 year old son. I see my parents weekly, both in their mid 70s. Both are living fairly normal lives and have little concern over COVID. Both have done a couple of road trips.

Bottom line - I have little fear over Covid. Far more concerned about losing my job and concern for the 50,000,000 unemployed Americans and the additional 6 Trillion in debt we've added.

Nope, because the media won't tell him to

Alias hasn't told anyone what to do

So why argue the steps he is taking that he believes is best?
They don't want their kids to get it.
Therefore, they stay home and you don't.

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Alias hasn't told anyone what to do

So why argue the steps he is taking that he believes is best?
They don't want their kids to get it.
Therefore, they stay home and you don't.

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Steps I believe are best and recognize are likely overly cautious.

I respect all of your decisions. Those staying home have given the world a break from traffic and over-crowding. Thank you for that. I also appreciate everyone wearing masks. By any shred of logic, it's got to help. I've been glad to have a great 5 months with my kids as they were starting to pull away, as early teens should.

I do feel for anyone who may have over-reacted. Life is too short to imprison yourself for 5+ months. We'll never know who actually over-reacted, because even if there is an answer, the mainstream or social media will distort and bury it.

Also, there's still a chance they were right and the rest of us will all be worm food 12 months from now.

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Alias hasn't told anyone what to do

So why argue the steps he is taking that he believes is best?
They don't want their kids to get it.
Therefore, they stay home and you don't.

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Besides, this is what we've all been saying all along. "If you're concerned, YOU stay home." If that's what someone chooses to do, great. Maybe we think they're being overly cautious, but so what? Not our business.

It's just when people want the rest of us to do what *they* want us to do that people draw issue.

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We're still mostly in the house. Our boys play with a few neighborhood boys and go to the local convenience store a lot, so they're our weak link.

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Your kids are drug dealers for your neighborhood. Might want to get on that

I just realized why parents of young kids are quarantining..... been a long time since I've had a baby. Even though statistics show almost no threat to kids and babies from Covid, parents of young children have a crazy strong connection and need to protect kids. Especially firstborns. That's nature working. I get it now.

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Especially firstborns. That's nature working. I get it now.

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My firstborn is a 3.5 year old boy. Any more time cooped up in the house and I think he might explode. Poor kid.

Sort of. I wear a mask where required by ordinance. I work from home. I've visited with my parents and siblings a few times, went to one wedding, and met with some Extended family A couple of times. I go shopping twice a week or so. I go to the gym about once a week for distanced small group workouts because that's one of my Few social groups.

I did go hang out with some people on boats on lake Travis last weekend. Just got the hell of it. Got tired after fishing all morning and anchored up in a party cove to relax, and a big boat invited me to hop over and hang out a while. Still small groups out there mostly 6-20 people, but people are slowly getting more lax and not distancing all the time everywhere. Masks on the docks but not on the water. TONS of people doing outdoors stuff.

I know a handful of people who caught it and none had a serious case.

Not at all. My job requires me to go into strangers houses every day. 1 out of 25 asks me to wear a mask and I have one in my pocket. I use that same mask to play the pretend game at stores and other places that mandate I wear. one

My wife is a dental hygienist, she's digging around in people's mouths three days a week.

I go to restaurants constantly, we've flown to Florida for vacation.

In essence, I have lived normally since this all began and still don't have anyone close to me that has had it.

While I respect others for doing whatever they are doing, it still boggles the mind when I hear someone that is staying home in fear.

Whether you think masks work or not, if you can't wear one while you walk around Target for 30 minutes without complaining, you're a whiny titty baby.

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While I respect others for doing whatever they are doing, it still boggles the mind when I hear someone that is staying home in fear.

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This is a big assumption on your part. Many people have risk factors that are not obvious to the naked eye, or live with and/or care for high risk loved ones that require higher levels of precaution to be taken by everyone in the family.

What is reasonable and prudent for youur life and your family, might not be reasonable or prudent for someone else's. That doesn't mean someone is living in fear. It means they're doing what they need to do to take care of their family.

The only restrictions I place upon myself is based off of what my guests and friends are comfortable with and what I HAVE to do for school, employment, shopping, etc.

I dont know why I am so surprised at how many people are still actively quarantining themselves and their families. But I am. And no, that is not a political indictment on those who do, for the hair trigger folk on here. Just an observation of my thoughts.

Never quarantined, been going into work every day since the beginning. Go out to eat fairly often, meet buddies for beers 1-2 times a week. Business as usual.

Working from home and don't foresee office reopening until 2021.

Only venture out for groceries and go very early and not very often.

Won't be using my season football tickets this year. (yes, they're already spoken for.)

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Toddlers don't get it. My wife and I had Covid back to back. Our house was contagious for a month and none of our kids got it.

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I'm aware the risk is low, but there's no compelling reason to take that risk. It happens, and if it did, it would be catastrophic.

Even in the flip side, if one of us got it and were hospitalized, it would be a terrible situation.

The reward to taking that risk is... what? I get to go eat at a restaurant instead of picking it up? Go to a movie instead of renting one? I miss those things, but at this stage, we're being overly cautious and it's not a prohibitive tradeoff.

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It happens, and if it did, it would not be catastrophic. You just think it would be because it happened to a person on the news.

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Toddlers don't get it. My wife and I had Covid back to back. Our house was contagious for a month and none of our kids got it.

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I'm aware the risk is low, but there's no compelling reason to take that risk. It happens, and if it did, it would be catastrophic.

Even in the flip side, if one of us got it and were hospitalized, it would be a terrible situation.

The reward to taking that risk is... what? I get to go eat at a restaurant instead of picking it up? Go to a movie instead of renting one? I miss those things, but at this stage, we're being overly cautious and it's not a prohibitive tradeoff.

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It happens, and if it did, it would not be catastrophic. You just think it would be because it happened to a person on the news.

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You aren't him and he is not telling anyone else what to do.

His wife and he made the best choices for them.

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Toddlers don't get it. My wife and I had Covid back to back. Our house was contagious for a month and none of our kids got it.

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I'm aware the risk is low, but there's no compelling reason to take that risk. It happens, and if it did, it would be catastrophic.

Even in the flip side, if one of us got it and were hospitalized, it would be a terrible situation.

The reward to taking that risk is... what? I get to go eat at a restaurant instead of picking it up? Go to a movie instead of renting one? I miss those things, but at this stage, we're being overly cautious and it's not a prohibitive tradeoff.

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It happens, and if it did, it would not be catastrophic. You just think it would be because it happened to a person on the news.

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Wow. Not just assuming you know what someone else thinks, but also why they think it. Impressive.

Not quarantining. Work in retail deemed essential. I have not mandated masks but allow employees to wear if they want. None have chosen. Have 28 employees.

400 customers a day since the shutdown. So far, nobody sick.

Just got back from a business trip to Northern New Mexico. I did abide by their rules and wore a mask when in buildings.

Not trying to make a statement but I feel the cure is far worse than the problem.

I have elderly and sick relatives I don't want getting this.

But I don't want them getting the flu, either.

Son-in-law got it. Really no symptoms. Daughter an ER nurse.

I just think we have lost a lot of common sense in this situation.

Not quarantining. Dont care anymore.

I work in a research facility so we are 100% facemask and temp at door. Safer than HEB. It has been all hands on deck for research personnel since day 1. Losing respect for most who are staying home at this point, including co-workers who I thought had a spine. Our institution allows wfh for those who can and are high risk, but there is no reason for it at this point IMO.

I am working from home for 3 weeks while kids do online school til labor day, then back to work full time. Hubby has been back at the office full time since the initial shutdown ended and his office building reopened.

I've gone to work every day. Eaten out for lunch every day since the May 6 reopening. Grocery store 2 or 3 times a week. Stayed 6 weekends in hotels. Heading on a college golf recruiting trip with my son next week and the coach reminded me for us to bring masks.

I was in middle school during the 1968 pandemic and I don't recall us staying away from anything.

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We're not going out. Things are still pretty bad in Houston. I'm working at home and our toddler is not going to her "school." Having groceries delivered. Grandparents have come to visit, and we made one trip to see family a while back.

We can function okay as it is, and while we think risks are low, the reality is that if one of the babies ended up with a bad case of COVID, that means weeks in the hospital without mom or dad able to be there with them. It would be different if we didn't have the young kids.

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Toddlers don't get it. My wife and I had Covid back to back. Our house was contagious for a month and none of our kids got it.

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I'm aware the risk is low, but there's no compelling reason to take that risk. It happens, and if it did, it would be catastrophic.

Even in the flip side, if one of us got it and were hospitalized, it would be a terrible situation.

The reward to taking that risk is... what? I get to go eat at a restaurant instead of picking it up? Go to a movie instead of renting one? I miss those things, but at this stage, we're being overly cautious and it's not a prohibitive tradeoff.

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It happens, and if it did, it would not be catastrophic. You just think it would be because it happened to a person on the news.

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Your baby or 3 year old being in the hospital for weeks, unable to be with you wouldn't be catastrophic? It would be for us.

That's not a likely scenario, but coupled with the risk to us (mom and dad), and the unknown long term risks even to asymptomatic people, we're opting to have food delivered instead of going out and we're forgoing sending the toddler to an early learning program twice a week. We're giving up some things to drop low risks even lower for now.

I agree that things are overblown and it is being made out to be more dangerous than it is, but even knowing what the ACTUAL risks are (and I do), we're being overly cautious. I'm glad you're out there and I hope that you stay free of it.