Coin said:

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HossAg said:

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How does the earth being flat provide more proof of a god existing? Does the round earth just make too much sense?

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Really? The fact the earth is not floating in infinite space, that it is stationary and all luminaries rotate above us, and the whole thing is an enclosed system would not make you realize it had to be created with purpose by a divine being?

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I'm not sure why that scenario would mandate a creator, but I also don't really understand why your solution to the universe pretty blatantly refuting the idea of a 6000 year old earth created by god is to just completely make **** up about how the world works to fit your narrative.

HossAg said:

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The bolded part is hilarious coming from someone that's very religious like yourself.

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Jokes on you. I didn't become a Christian until my 20's. I was not brain washed" at a young age.

I actually did a lot of searching and read parts of the Koran, looked into Hinduism, Budism, Taoism, and realized they are all either contradictory or poetic writings with no substance. At this point I have read the entirety of the Bible, much of it several times, along with the books of Enoch and Jasher. The other books of the Apocrypha are on my list.

HossAg said:

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I'm not sure why that scenario would mandate a creator, but I also don't really understand why your solution to the universe pretty blatantly refuting the idea of a 6000 year old earth created by god is to just completely make **** up about how the world works to fit your narrative.

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There is no "universe" or outer space, it is entirely fiction. "space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement".
I never stated I believe the earth to be 6,000 years old. That would be approximately when Adam and Eve were created.

Look man, if you don't want to watch any of the factual information I posted that's fine, but don't accuse me of making **** up.

Coin said:

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I mentioned this above. The purpose of the conspiracy is to hide God. This is the mother of all conspiracies.

Most people have difficulty realizing that the enemy of God does all he can to keep us from knowing God, and has been at it a lot longer than you and I have been alive. Think about what kind of generational power and wealth could be built up over millennia. He promises those who serve him power, money, fame, etc in exchange for them doing his will on earth. Those who step out of line are disposed of.

If you already acknowledge 9/11, moon landing, and Covid were lies, then you are well on your way.

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So you're saying the purpose is to hide God, but the earth being round is in writings that date back well before Christ. You really think the BC philosophers were conspiracy theorists hoping to one day have a round globe in a kindergarten classroom 2300 years later. Lol

HossAg said:

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Admitting to a self-inflicted brainwashing as you grew older isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is.

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My point is I came to my own conclusion based on facts and evidence, not what I have been told by authority.

Howdy Dammit said:

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So you're saying the purpose is to hide God, but the earth being round is in writings that date back well before Christ. You really think the BC philosophers were conspiracy theorists hoping to one day have a round globe in a kindergarten classroom 2300 years later. Lol

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The face of the earth is a circle, which is round.

Lol I was coming to say that. I'm not sure using the RHCP as a basis of argument is a smart move.

GAC06 said:

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You're saying God couldn't create an infinite universe?

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Well we do know he has trouble with curve balls.

Howdy Dammit said:

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Yeah. This is where I'm at. I'm all in on a good government conspiracy from the inside. But when you start getting into conspiracies that could be busted by smart lay people around the world, and you just trust that every lay person that figures it out keeps their mouth shut, I'm out.

So he believe scientists/engineers from Japan to China, to US to Europe to russia all cover this up on a daily basis to destroy God when all those scientists are from every religious background with multiple different Gods and thousands that are the same religion as him. That's when you know you're insane. Lol.

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There are far more people who understand the truth of Flat Earth than you realize. Nearly all are afraid to speak publicly because the ones that do are met with responses like I have been.

I'm not here to convince anyone. I have only stayed around to answer legitimate questions. If you think I'm insane, feel free to move on and forget everything I said.

Howdy Dammit said:

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And no man is history has every found the edge. Fascinating considering you can fly around the entire globe. Lol

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That you know of, but Admiral Byrd explored beyond the ice wall.
Operation High Jump

Operation Fishbowl and Dominic studied the firmament.

HossAg said:

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You haven't posted any facts. You've posted refuted conspiracy theories. Outer space is real, other galaxies are real, and it's not a giant conspiracy covered up by thousands of engineers and leaders across the globe.

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This is blatantly false. I have linked to documents, photographs, and experiments. All are either facts are factually occurred. Just because there are people who refute them, does not mean they cannot be true.

Yes, there are thousands of people involved in covering it up. I have discovered this aspect is really the thing most people have trouble believing.

This is off topic, but Satan, the Devil, what ever you want to call the enemy of God, has many who live to serve him. They are liars just as he is. They are the upper levels of the secret societies/cults that have been around for centuries, millennia.

Coin, assuming you're not a troll, I have to give you props for staying a defending your belief, even though everyone else here obviously disagrees with you.

Regarding "Professor Dumb's" videos…do you have anything to say regarding what he refers to with the moon and stars?

Coin said:

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HossAg said:

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You haven't posted any facts. You've posted refuted conspiracy theories. Outer space is real, other galaxies are real, and it's not a giant conspiracy covered up by thousands of engineers and leaders across the globe.

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This is blatantly false. I have linked to documents, photographs, and experiments. All are either facts are factually occurred. Just because there are people who refute them, does not mean they cannot be true.

Yes, there are thousands of people involved in covering it up. I have discovered this aspect is really the thing most people have trouble believing.

This is off topic, but Satan, the Devil, what ever you want to call the enemy of God, has many who live to serve him. They are liars just as he is. They are the upper levels of the secret societies/cults that have been around for centuries, millennia.

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I am now convinced again that this is a troll.

Geddy Lee soul patch said:

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Coin, assuming you're not a troll, I have to give you props for staying a defending your belief, even though everyone else here obviously disagrees with you.

Regarding "Professor Dumb's" videos…do you have anything to say regarding what he refers to with the moon and stars?

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Thank you.

As far as the "Professor" goes, I briefly commented on his videos on the previous page, but here you go.

1. The moon is some type of plasma phenomena and is not 240,000 miles away. How this plasma, which is local, works I do not know. The Professor makes assumptions about the shape and nature of the moon based on his assumptions of it's physical nature and distance from earth, by his own admission, that's not science. Stars seen through transparent moon I have seen this occur myself numerous times after looking for it.

2. He assumes the stars are far away rather than close and doesn't understand our perspective of the sky. The southern stars are interesting and difficult for me to wrap my head around, but here is a couple quick explanations.
Southern Star Trails
Southern Star Trails Advanced

Mad repsect to Coin for coming on to defend their beliefs.

While I absolutely believe the earth is a sphere, I am beyond fascinated by your point of view. So please know that I ask the following question out of sheer curiosity and with no animosity or ill intent.


From your point of view, how are the rising and fall tides created since the earth is flat?

Looks pretty round to me. From that height (70,000 ft), you would think you should be able to see the entire "disk" if the earth was indeed flat....but its not

Screw tide, how is half the flat earth dark and half in sunshine at any given time

Another plasma phenomenon I suppose

nai06 said:

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Mad repsect to Coin for coming on to defend their beliefs.

While I absolutely believe the earth is a sphere, I am beyond fascinated by your point of view. So please know that I ask the following question out of sheer curiosity and with no animosity or ill intent.


From your point of view, how are the rising and fall tides created since the earth is flat?

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Again, thank you, and good question. While I am no expert at all things Flat Earth, this video gives an explanation that seems plausible to me.
Electromagnetic Tides

The heliocentric explanation of tides does not makes sense. If the gravity of the sun and moon are what pulls the tides and the sun and moon are located between the Tropic on Cancer and Capricorn, why do the equatorial regions have the smallest variation in tides, while the north has the highest variation?

However, that still makes more sense than our atmosphere being magically held to the earth abutting a supposed vacuum that is so strong we cannot reproduce it in even our strongest laboratories.
Fake vacuum

What about when you can see the sun and moon in the sky at the same time, but the moon is only 1/4, or 1/2, or 3/4 full? What is causing the dark portion? I'm no geometry major, but I can draw a triangle between myself, the moon, and the sun with nothing blocking any line of site.

tford12 said:

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Looks pretty round to me. From that height (70,000 ft), you would think you should be able to see the entire "disk" if the earth was indeed flat....but its not

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This is such a common deception it's laughable. Can you not tell they are using wide angle lens cameras?
When the horizon is in the upper half of the video, the horizon looks like a ball. When the horizon is in the lower half the earth is bowl shaped.

I posted a video earlier from 120,000' nearly double the altitude your video, and the horizon is completely flat.

He literally said it's curved in the video. But I'm guessing you'd chalk that up to satan worshiper.

Howdy Dammit said:

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GAC06 said:

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Screw tide, how is half the flat earth dark and half in sunshine at any given time

Another plasma phenomenon I suppose

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You musta missed this gem from page 2.

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My bad, I should have remembered that the sun isn't round either and is actually just God moving a flashlight in a circular motion

Furlock Bones said:

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GAC06 said:

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You're saying God couldn't create an infinite universe?

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Well we do know he has trouble with curve balls.

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