Let's be honest, how many people really cheated their way through college?

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Well I've had three cheat this week alone, if that gives you any idea of the current state. That's 3 out of 70 graduate students in our program.
emando2000
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I met a recent grad from A&M and she said there is an app that students use all the time to get answers. I'm not sure if it's just homework or tests as well. She was telling me that everyone she knew used it and made it sound like it was no big deal.

Chegg is what it was called.
boboguitar
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Does having a Ti-89 cas count as cheating?
Duncan Idaho
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Typical pathetic millennial. Unless 90 is your class year, which would be even more pathetic that you are asking this question at your age.
Rusty GCS
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Chegg is $17/mo and has all the answers to homework questions from the book (which are assigned to you through a website you also pay access to when you buy the book). Everybody uses Chegg. I wouldn't consider it cheating at all. It's just a time saver and helps you understand the material as it's stepped out and explained by users. Not just an answer given.

School in 2017 is a lot different than years past.


*if you don't have Chegg you can use Yahoo Answers with almost as much success.
boboguitar
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Rusty GCS said:

Chegg is $17/mo and has all the answers to homework questions from the book (which are assigned to you through a website you also pay access to when you buy the book). Everybody uses Chegg. I wouldn't consider it cheating at all. It's just a time saver and helps you understand the material as it's stepped out and explained by users. Not just an answer given.

School in 2017 is a lot different than years past.


*if you don't have Chegg you can use Yahoo Answers with almost as much success.
Man that sucks you have to pay for your textbook answers.

DC++ was free.
agnerd
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OP sounds like he has the contractor mindset. I hire a contractor when I want to utilize the skills he already possesses. I hire an employee when I want something more. Skills are important, but I also want someone that has the ability to learn new things that come up in the industry or even better, help my company to be the one driving the new innovations in the industry. I want them to understand the math and physics of why something works, and I want them to be able to learn the new methods and technology that affect the industry, and apply concepts to help us gain an edge on our competitors.

OP sounds like he makes a great contractor. He's interested in the skills, the practical application, and getting the project done. But asking whether he should cheat or not and discounting the knowledge-gain associated with a degree makes me think he isn't company-man material. Just my opinion...
emando2000
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Rusty GCS said:

Chegg is $17/mo and has all the answers to homework questions from the book (which are assigned to you through a website you also pay access to when you buy the book). Everybody uses Chegg. I wouldn't consider it cheating at all. It's just a time saver and helps you understand the material as it's stepped out and explained by users. Not just an answer given.

School in 2017 is a lot different than years past.


*if you don't have Chegg you can use Yahoo Answers with almost as much success.
So you don't actually do the homework yourself?....

How is that not cheating?

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This reminds me of the scene in Office Space where Peter is explaining to Jennifer Anniston how they were created the program that stole from Innetec and she asks..."How is that not stealing?"
Rusty GCS
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1) it's expected
2) you aren't gaining a competitive advantage against anybody
3) steroid users should be allowed in the baseball HOF
Wicked Good Ag
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According to Swim about 20 percent of the class per 4.0
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I love that OP thinks honor doesn't matter because it's not an A&M affiliated school.

Kinda missing the point there, sparky. But judging by the rest of your post, I suspect that happens more often than not in your world.
C Loves L
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I've got two finals coming up. Had one yesterday. I study more than the average student. I gather this from the way the other students talk and their grades. I stayed up till 2am yesterday and do more on my projects than what's required.

With that said, the outcome is more important than how you get there. I've done some cheating but not much. Ill do what ever it takes to not only pass but with good grades too

Before this semester, gpa = 3.54
Dad-O-Lot
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Never cheated through HS or College.
SabineAg
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Got caught in HS one time cheating on a Spanish quiz. I remember feeling so bad about such a small thing that even though I was tempted that I didn't cheat after that. Now I utilized every resource I could find to prepare, some profs consider test banks cheating. However I always felt that it was honest if I prepared with whatever I could find and went into the test to take it with out any supplemental help.
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Gota De Limon said:

I love that OP thinks honor doesn't matter because it's not an A&M affiliated school.

Kinda missing the point there, sparky. But judging by the rest of your post, I suspect that happens more often than not in your world.


So much this!! Never cheated and never even considered it.
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aTm2004
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emando2000 said:

Rusty GCS said:

Chegg is $17/mo and has all the answers to homework questions from the book (which are assigned to you through a website you also pay access to when you buy the book). Everybody uses Chegg. I wouldn't consider it cheating at all. It's just a time saver and helps you understand the material as it's stepped out and explained by users. Not just an answer given.

School in 2017 is a lot different than years past.


*if you don't have Chegg you can use Yahoo Answers with almost as much success.
So you don't actually do the homework yourself?....

How is that not cheating?


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This reminds me of the scene in Office Space where Peter is explaining to Jennifer Anniston how they were created the program that stole from Innetec and she asks..."How is that not stealing?"
If you solely rely on it to do the homework, it is cheating. If you're using it to check your work to see if you got the correct answer, and if not, where your mistake is, it isn't cheating. IIRC, math books from my classes all had the answers to the even number questions in the back. How is this any different?
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agnerd said:

OP sounds like he has the contractor mindset. I hire a contractor when I want to utilize the skills he already possesses. I hire an employee when I want something more. Skills are important, but I also want someone that has the ability to learn new things that come up in the industry or even better, help my company to be the one driving the new innovations in the industry. I want them to understand the math and physics of why something works, and I want them to be able to learn the new methods and technology that affect the industry, and apply concepts to help us gain an edge on our competitors.

OP sounds like he makes a great contractor. He's interested in the skills, the practical application, and getting the project done. But asking whether he should cheat or not and discounting the knowledge-gain associated with a degree makes me think he isn't company-man material. Just my opinion...


I was working in the pipeline control center for Citgo Petroleum when I was 21 years old, I went stir crazy being in an office twelve hours a day sitting at a desk with 12 monitors. The eagle ford was still rocking, so I hired on as a Automation/Instrumentation contractor for EOG, things were good until the bottom fell out on oil prices. I was young and wanted to be in the action and learn the field side. Do I wish I was at Citgo still now? Everyday. Did the foreman at EOG say most contractors go company in a year if they keep their nose clean? Yes. What that a total lie? Yes. In over two years not one contractor was called up. It was a terrible place morale wise. I'm sure you could understand why. They made lots of promises to our whole department and never did ***** Once I got let go I figured school was the best thing to do during a downturn. To make myself more marketable as a job candidate when the hiring started kicking hard again. Couple a degree with experience.


Perhaps you shouldn't make wild ass accusations on people. I have a family I still manage to be the primary provider for and go to school full time as well. My goal is to learn as much as possible so I can get a better job and provide more for them. Not just show up and get a check. Jackass...
FTAggies
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You sound like someone who just wants to put something new on your resume and get back to work after school is over, rather than learning the material, earning your certificate/degree, and being proud of your work/accomplishments. I get it, you have a family, work and school is hard enough but you're only cheating yourself.

I personally am ashamed at my lack of effort and coasting while at A&M, I don't look on my degree/ring with as much pride as others bec I didn't feel as though I'd earned it. It took me 8 yrs to get on track after school, bc I didn't put into it what I should have.

You can cheat yourself, but that's up to you.
JABQ04
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You can cheat all you want. Just pray you never get asked to do anything about what you might have "learned". You'll look dumb AF if you graduate with a 4.0 but can't do the most basic stuff your job asks/requires you to. Then everyone will know your an idiot who either cheated to get where he is or incompetent. Which do you prefer.
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FabricatorAg
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SheriffBarclay said:

So what I'm gathering is that millennial high school and college consists of matching questions on the test to identical or similar answers from a test bank or cheat sheat. This appears to be the "knowledge" gained regardless of class subject matter.

So they know nothing about the subject itself, just know how to match A to B? Good lord.


Not at all, but if you'd type that up and believe that's a true thought...we don't even get letter grades anymore, they give degrees just for coming.

Jesus Christ when did the thread go from yes or no did you cheat, to how douchie and rotten millenial's are, and I'm just a bottom feeder. I'm not even a millennial anyways. I'd love to see some of yalls family photos...prolly wouldn't recognize anybody in them. Which means you should prolly get off your high horse because you're prolly just another irrelevant ******* who sets your cruise on 65 in the left lane on the interstate. I passed all my classes anyway so this thread is now not important. I didn't cheat, passed and will do better next semester without cheating.
boboguitar
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Quote:

My goal is to learn as much as possible


Makes thread about cheating.
Duncan Idaho
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boboguitar said:

Quote:

My goal is to learn as much as possible


Makes thread about cheating.
he is probably my least favorite non-hostilte board poster
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MichaelJ90 said:

SheriffBarclay said:

So what I'm gathering is that millennial high school and college consists of matching questions on the test to identical or similar answers from a test bank or cheat sheat. This appears to be the "knowledge" gained regardless of class subject matter.

So they know nothing about the subject itself, just know how to match A to B? Good lord.


Not at all, but if you'd type that up and believe that's a true thought...we don't even get letter grades anymore, they give degrees just for coming.

Jesus Christ when did the thread go from yes or no did you cheat, to how douchie and rotten millenial's are, and I'm just a bottom feeder. I'm not even a millennial anyways. I'd love to see some of yalls family photos...prolly wouldn't recognize anybody in them. Which means you should prolly get off your high horse because you're prolly just another irrelevant ******* who sets your cruise on 65 in the left lane on the interstate. I passed all my classes anyway so this thread is now not important. I didn't cheat, passed and will do better next semester without cheating.

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