A very poor white trash family that lived in my hometown, single mom, had 4 children (oldest was a boy who was 3 years older than me, next was a girl 2 years older than me and was my brother's classmate, next was a girl in my class, youngest was a girl a year younger than me). There were only about 85 in our entire high school. Their mother was pretty much a drunk. She was running with a local white trash drunkard, and at that time had to drive about 35 miles to get alcohol. I believe I was a senior in high school, the 2 drunks were on there way back from the liquor store, story got out that they were arguing over the last drink of wine in the bottle they were sharing on the way home from the liquor store. He turned it up and she cut his throat. I don't remember how it was that he did get to the local hospital ER, but was pretty much bled out by the time they got him there.

The one my age and the one a year younger came to school the next day. Class that morning was a bit awkward.

I believe the woman wound up in a mental institution instead of prison. The one in my class wound up in mental institution as well.

Had it comin. Drank the last of my booze.

http://www.ksat.com/news/man-dead-suspect-arrested-in-medina-county-killing

The guy was my "first kiss" in HS. Even had a date in CS my freshman year. Ended it pretty quickly, he was always a little off.

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October 1999, guys walks into my parents monograming business, past my mom, three other ladies and over to his ex girlfriend sitting at a computer, setting up a monogram. She had broken up with him a week earlier and filed for a restraining order two days before. He pulls out a 9mm and shoots her in the head, then turns the gun on himself, also shooting himself in the head. Scary thing was, not only had he walked within a foot of my mom with the gun in his hand, there were a total of six others in the place and he had 8 rounds left in the mag, but he had three more full mags in his pocket.

December 2002, Ryan Frazier, a fish at Baylor (on a full ride academic scholarship) who was in my son's Scout troop and was an Eagle Scout, murders his mom, dad, younger brother and family dog, stabbing them time and again. Kid was the kind of guy, we would have enjoyed dating our daughter. His Dad was a friends and co-worker of mine, really a great guy and the Scout Master of the troop.
Ryan borrowed his roommates car, drove to Victoria from Waco in the middle of the night, brought a knife with him. When he tried to enter the house, the family dog started barking, so he stabbed her multiple times. His mom heard something and he encounters her in the hall, stabbing her to death. He enters his younger brothers room (a Jr. In HS & friend of our daughter), still asleep and stabs him multiple times. He then Heads towards his dad in the bedroom. Dad hearing noise meets Ryan in the hallway where he stabs his dad to death. He then returns to his brothers room, to make sure he is dead.
He then torches the house, burning it to the ground. He was caught when he was seen on video buying gas for the car and filling the gas can near Victoria. Wierd thing was, we had seen them all at the mall about 8 that night, so we were about the last people to see them alive. He is serving life with no chance for parole. He plead guilty in exchange for taking the death penalty off the table. When asked why, he says he doesn't know....

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Assume your 1st story happened in Victoria? If so, I went to high school with her. Her ex was super jealous and nuts. Sad situation.

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Assume your 1st story happened in Victoria? If so, I went to high school with her. Her ex was super jealous and nuts. Sad situation.

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Yes it was, she was a good kid mixed up with a jealous psycho and she was trying to get away from him...

He and Dean Corll killed my friends and classmates Danny Yates and Jim Glass.

Wanted to go to bed early last night, but noooo I had to spend 2 hours reading this thread and doing research on those two guys killing kids in the heights.

Thanks TA

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He and Dean Corll killed my friends and classmates Danny Yates and Jim Glass.

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Damn, those are some of the most brutal murders I've heard of.

My wife's aunt lives in Conroe. A few years ago she was carjacked in her church parking lot. The guy let her take anything she wanted from the car as long as she got it and got out fast. After taking her car he drove towards Houston (don't recall how far) and picked up his girlfriend and friend of his before turning around and heading to Dallas. On the way he got into an argument with the friend in the back seat and shot him several times while driving down the highway. Cops picked him up south of Dallas.

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Had it comin. Drank the last of my booze.

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Don't know why this made me LOL


Serious note: There are some crazy, crazy mutha effers in this world.

We live three doors down from Lee Harvey Oswald's daughter.

Strangled with a chain with handcuff chain once. Assailant let go and fled. Scar for about a week.

5 stab wounds on another occasion. 4 days in hospital. Job related.

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Three Doors Down is an excellent name for a rock band.

Really close family friends with Tina Kimbrew. in 1986 Serial killer faryion wardrip suffocated her because she reminded him of his ex wife. Sentenced to 35 years but he was paroled after 11 years. After being released he started a family but was then linked to 4 other murders before he killed Tina.
She was an incredible person from a great family. Strangely enough I have the book about those murders on a book shelf in my office. A great book with really good insight of the case if your interested in that kind of stuff. The book is called Scream at the Sky.

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Strangled with a chain with handcuff chain once. Assailant let go and fled. Scar for about a week.

5 stab wounds on another occasion. 4 days in hospital. Job related.

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Just be glad the assailant wasn't Anton Chigurh.

IN all seriousness I assume you were a cop? Either way it sounds like that was a pretty dangerous career.

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Strangled with a chain with handcuff chain once. Assailant let go and fled. Scar for about a week.

5 stab wounds on another occasion. 4 days in hospital. Job related.

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IN all seriousness I assume you were a cop?

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Or a sex worker

http://www.caller.com/news/19-year-old-man-stabbed-to-death-near-orange-grove-ep-360217521-316428901.html?d=mobile

Was right next to him when it happened. Sad thing is they guy who did it got off.

I went to school and played a lot of golf with Scott Peterson. Sad deal. Lacie was great.

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just thought of two different occasions where I knew someone that was murdered.

1. Guy who was a year ahead of me in high school. Close friend of mine had a crush on him. He went to college in Missouri. He and his brother were leaving a dive bar and was approached by some guy asking if his name was Chris. He said no. Didn't matter. His throat was slashed and he bled out on the way to the hospital.

2. Another guy, Roland, was murdered by his best friend because he thought he was making out with his aunt. During the trial, the bf stated that it wasn't him that shot the guy..that it was some guy named Lupe.

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October 1999, guys walks into my parents monograming business, past my mom, three other ladies and over to his ex girlfriend sitting at a computer, setting up a monogram. She had broken up with him a week earlier and filed for a restraining order two days before. He pulls out a 9mm and shoots her in the head, then turns the gun on himself, also shooting himself in the head. Scary thing was, not only had he walked within a foot of my mom with the gun in his hand, there were a total of six others in the place and he had 8 rounds left in the mag, but he had three more full mags in his pocket.

December 2002, Ryan Frazier, a fish at Baylor (on a full ride academic scholarship) who was in my son's Scout troop and was an Eagle Scout, murders his mom, dad, younger brother and family dog, stabbing them time and again. Kid was the kind of guy, we would have enjoyed dating our daughter. His Dad was a friends and co-worker of mine, really a great guy and the Scout Master of the troop.
Ryan borrowed his roommates car, drove to Victoria from Waco in the middle of the night, brought a knife with him. When he tried to enter the house, the family dog started barking, so he stabbed her multiple times. His mom heard something and he encounters her in the hall, stabbing her to death. He enters his younger brothers room (a Jr. In HS & friend of our daughter), still asleep and stabs him multiple times. He then Heads towards his dad in the bedroom. Dad hearing noise meets Ryan in the hallway where he stabs his dad to death. He then returns to his brothers room, to make sure he is dead.
He then torches the house, burning it to the ground. He was caught when he was seen on video buying gas for the car and filling the gas can near Victoria. Wierd thing was, we had seen them all at the mall about 8 that night, so we were about the last people to see them alive. He is serving life with no chance for parole. He plead guilty in exchange for taking the death penalty off the table. When asked why, he says he doesn't know....

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I remember that to this day. Everyone in the Victoria area took their stuff to that shop to get monogram work done. It was amazing that he didn't kill more people when he was in there.

Not a murder, but I sat at the same table as this kid at lunch in high school (Langham Creek class of '11). None of us ever knew about this, and it was so hard to believe when the news came out a year after we graduated. Like I literally might've sat with this guy and talked to him the day he did this.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Teen-who-was-15-when-he-raped-woman-sentenced-to-3717278.php

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A Houston teenager who admitted breaking into a 38-year-old Katy woman's home and raping her was sentenced to 45 years in prison Wednesday.

Schyler Hill, who was 15 at the time, used a sharpened half-scissor blade to threaten his victim's life in her home during the April 28, 2010 sexual assault.

State District Judge Maria Jackson decided Hill's fate after seeing the results of a pre-sentence investigation and hearing from the victim, who said describing the assault in open court was the most gut-wrenching thing she had ever done.

The woman encouraged victims of other crimes to come forward despite the fear. "I think it does help the victim," she said. "I feel empowered. If I can do this, I feel like I can do anything."

Defense lawyers for Hill were incensed that prosecutors argued for a life sentence for the first-time offender who was certified to be tried as an adult.
"This was a 15-year-old with no prior criminal history, no juvenile history, no adult history, and he ended up in adult court," said Eric Davis. He said prosecutors made a plea offer of 45 years before Wednesday's sentencing. "Habitual offenders get offered less time on similar allegations," Davis said.
He said Hill got a lengthier sentence because prosecutors value victims differently.
"We ought to value victims all the same, but in this case, I got the impression this victim was valued more than in other cases," Davis said. "She wasn't a woman who was poor, she wasn't a woman who was a minority, she was well-to-do."

The 18-year-old will have to serve at least half of the sentence before being eligible for parole.

"What Schyler Hill did in this case was beyond brutal, the details are absolutely horrifying, and it's something nobody should have to live through," said Assistant Harris County District Attorney Lacy Johnson. "I think Judge Jackson made the right decision."

The victim's husband offered good luck to Hill after the sentencing.
"It's heartbreaking to see someone this young ruin their life," the husband said. "But he brought this battle, he chose this battle, not us."

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The shooting I described in my first post in this thread happened at Langham Creek circa 1987(?).

Ha ya I saw. I actually knew about that shooting before I read that post.

My dad coached and taught at this HISD highschool for 20-something years and when I was in I guess 7th grade was when Katrina hit. At his school there were alot of Katrina refugees and there was a big New Orleans v. Houston fight at the school with multiple shots fired and one of the bullets shot out one of his fellow coaches windows... and that got me curious and I remember that night I googled Langham Creek gangs and Langham Creek shooting and went and showed my dad that story of the AP getting shot (I think it was pretty big news at the time it happened so he probably knew already).

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The guy was my "first kiss" in HS. Even had a date in CS my freshman year. Ended it pretty quickly, he was always a little off.

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You dated and made out with someone named SHANE OUTLAW???

Was on the golf team in high school, and we all got to know the cop assigned to our school pretty well. He'd see us leaving early to go to practice, start chatting, etc. Some of us would occasionally play a round with him on the weekends. A few years after I graduated I learned that he had retired, built his new retirement house, and on the first night after moving in he shot his wife and then turned the gun on himself.

THE NEWS, Port Arthur, Texas Tuesday, August 9,1977 Double murder, suicide ruled in deaths of 3 Justice of the Peace Johnny Knowles ruled double homicide in the morning shooting deaths of three members of the Arthur New family Services for 18-year old Leonard New and his mother. Bernice Todd New, 41. were set for Tuesday at 1:30 Services for Arthur Lee New, 45, are set for 4 p.m. Tuesday Both services are at Livingston Funeral Home in Groves. Knowles released his report Monday afternoon after Groves detective Joe Price completed a statement by surviving son Todd New, 16, who witnessed one of the shootings according to police reports. Todd New told police he was awakened Sunday morning at his home at 4940 Garfield by gunshot sounds. He found his older brother fatally wounded in the family living room, he told police, and ran across the street to call police. When he returned to the house, he saw his father shoot his mother only moments before police arrived at 9:31 a m Police said Arthur New, 45, then turned the .357 magnum on himself in the hallway at the front door Police reported that New and and Mrs. New were separated and she had filed for divorce Mrs New also reportedly had a restraining order against him to keep him from coming to the house.

I'm from stink adena but was 5 yo when this went down. I always thought Wayne Henly was the mastermind. I never knew Corlls was the ring-leader? That guy was the most ****ed up human ever ! I hop hell is extrA hot for him!

That crap could have gone on for years if he would not have shot him!

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After it all happened his little brother killed himself. Used to go over to his house.

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Ever listened to Sword and Scale podcasts? Have at least one or two that cover serial killers.

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http://www.fox4news.com/news/161217969-story

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Trial on this case began this week. It's been sad but interesting following the DMN reporters live tweet updates.
#lowetrial

Older friend of mine, and father of a friend of mine, was stabbed in the neck at a bar I usually would have been at when it happened. He bled out on the bar floor. Another buddy of mine chased the attacker down and held him until the police showed up. Attacker will get out in ~20 years.