Americas Cup Race!! Its finally here!!

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Aggie99
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http://www.americascup.com/
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Finally, someone else who watches the America's Cup. Weather sucks in Velencia...hopefully they can get it going soon.
Aggie99
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Are you there (at the race??)

Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Aggie 99...

Do you have the online race view or are you just waiting for Versus to start live coverage in 2 weeks?
Aggie99
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Just waiting for Versus....(It sucks, but I guess I have waited 4 years, so whats a little more.)
CT'97
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Every since I watched the races in San Diego and saw the boats I have enjoyed watching the America's cup.
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Charter Cable here in Ft. Worth just screwed me big time from watching the Cup live. They moved it from channel 66 to channel 254 on the digital cable tier. I don't have digital cable in my office, only at home, so now I have to record the races at home in the morning and watch it when I get home 8 hours after the fact instead of watching it live. Thanks for nothing Charter!
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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CT...

I started watching the races back in the early 80's. Came home from school one day, it was really the only thing on...watched it and got hooked. The first races I watched was when Dennis Conner lost the cup the first time. Saw a boat de-masted and another completely take the wind out of the sail of another boat and colapse it's spinniker. I've watched the races even since. I may just have to pony up the money for the Sail Tracker.
TyHolden
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when does this start?


nevermind...

[This message has been edited by ag_oracle (edited 5/13/2007 10:24p).]
BillyPilgrim
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I lived in Valencia for a year. Pretty cool that they are hosting it.
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I have always been a big sailing fan.......ever since I was little.

When the cup was in San Diego, my brother and I went down to check out the action.........we lived up in Orange County and SD was only about 1-1/2 hours away. Anyway, being a hughe fan of Dennis Connor, we ended up somehow walking up to one of the trailers in his camp that we thaught was the concession trailers..........we open the door to it and holly shiat, there he was Dennis Connor himself talking to some hottie while he was doing a painting. He turns to us in a very laid back way and asks us..........are you boys looking for the concession trailer?
We both looked at each other and said yes we were.............he then tells us to wait right there and that he will walk with us since he was heading that way anyway.
He walked with us and talked to us the whole way as if he was one of our pals, it was very cool of him and nothing like what I thaught the man was like.
Ever since then, I had really liked the man and think very highly of him.........regardless of what many other people might hink of say about him.

Anyway, that is my little story!
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Cool story Andy...do you remember the race there in SD when he was like 5:00 behind at the last mark and came back to win against the team of all women? Great race and tachtics to get the HUGE wind shift.

Anyway, great comeback today for the American boat. Tied 1 all with Luna Rossa...should be a good series. Looks like Team New Zealand has the other series well in hand with the 2-0 lead.
CT'97
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It was a great race today for BMW/Oracle. They came from 250m behind to get a victory. Good tactics and execution won out.
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Yep, sure do..............I remember when Dennis Connor tricked the opposite team to tack (he was behind but fairly close) and cover him (that was done a couple of times) until Dennis faked them by starting to tack......(the other team saw this and inmediately did the same to cover) only to have Dennis stop his tack midway and go back to the original heading and by doing so he regained the lead and went on to win. Men do I miss team Dennis Connor.

It was a great race!!

Today, it was a heck of a start by the Italians to pin the Americans down.............but boy does the Oracle boat have some speed on the down wind legs or what, plus great team effort by the Americans.

Great race overall and it looks to be a great series to come.

My Spanish team on the other hand came back to lose by less then 20 seconds when they were down by 350 meters or so.................they need a miracle!!


Yes, it was pretty cool to meet Dennis Connor.........by the way he gave me a hughe poster of Stars & Stripes sailing on a reach that I have hanging right here in my computer room.

Is it just me or do the last Americas Cups seem too steril and fairly even or what??

You no longer have the big boat surprises, keels, new sails, etc.............I kind of miss the old Americas Cups..........just me!

[This message has been edited by andyv94 (edited 5/15/2007 7:09p).]
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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It would be nice if Dickson could get a start right. Luna Rossa has killed them in the pre-start. That is where USA lost race 1 and 3 and almost lost race 2. How can a crew be so good in the Round Robins and so bad in the semi's and get beat off the start everytime? They better get it right quickly or the cup will not be back home for another 4 years.
TyHolden
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Down 4-1, we are almost done...
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Looks like the Italians were sand bagging it?

Plus they have an incredible tactician and skipper.............but it just seems to me that the overall speed of the italian boat is just that much faster then Team BMW Oracle is.

I might be wrong, but it seems to me that the one constants in the 4 italian wins is the speed of the wind..........which is the norm wind, which clearly shows the italian boat favoring this type of wind...........I think anybody that has followed the Americas Cup can remember numerous times when this has come into play big time.
TyHolden
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we are done...


stick to software larry...
JJxvi
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Chris Dickson got freaking owned.

New Army lives at Reed Arena
JJxvi
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BMW/Oracle also got hurt because they made some changes to the boat for maneuverability to compensate for Dickson absolutely sucking at the start, which meant they werent as fast on the course.

New Army lives at Reed Arena
CT'97
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That start with the double penalty was painful to watch.

Maybe they will be better in 4 years.
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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I don't think I've ever seen a team get beat so badly at the start of every race! What the heck happened between the Round Robins and the semi's? Dickson and crew won most of their starts for 18 races...but totally sucked in their 5 semi races. Taking Dickson off the boat didn't help either. I can't believe they were that bad!

Looks like NZL and ITA in the LV Finals...and the Swiss looked hard to beat in the full regatta before the RR. My money is on NZL to win it all.
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I like the Italians.........fast overall boat, great crew and incredible tactician and skipper.

My money is on the Italians!
carsondude
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Hey you guys know that A&M has a sailing team? check it out!
http://recsports.tamu.edu/sailing/
I bet Allinghi beats NZL in 7
irvingag
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Ellison's problem was giving complete control to Dickson. I know Ellison will fund another team for 2012 but he needs to seriously look at finding an American Captain. It sucks we were relying on a New Zealander to run our American campaign. I wish he would have brought Dennis Connor along for the ride. He may be old but damn he is still good.
RedHeadedAg91
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I was disappointed that the US only had one team, didn't even have a US skipper. I was in SD in 95' living in shelter island right next to the NZ camp. They kicked our ass, but that was a fun cup. I wonder when we will take it back and bring her home. Writing this while we just won the Regional.
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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NZL gonna go up 4-0...so much for the ITA boat being fast. Kiwis keep forcing the other boats to make mistakes. NZL gonna be hard to beat in the finals.

By not having a defender series, does that hurt the Swiss because they have not been in a match race for the last month? Look at what happened to the Kiwis in the last cup race. The boat broke in 3 of the 5 races and they were beaten soundly in the other 2. No defender series really hurts...NZL is seasoned and ready to race...how are the Swiss?
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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New Zealand and Allinghi in the finals...still say NZL wins 5-2.
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Freaking italians..........apparently the boat speed of the Prada was no match for NZ. It is hard to compete against a boat that points higher and goes through the waves better then your boat, no doubt.

Oh well, as far as the finals............who knows what Alingis boat has in store for NZ?
NZ looked really good, and obviously the crew, the boat and the skipper are peaking and ready to go............have no idea. If I had to guess I would go with NZ. It is pay back for them!
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Tied 1-1. NZL has a chance if the wind is down. The higher the wind speed, the faster Allingi goes, low wind condtions favor the Kiwi's. Race 3 is the key..that race should go a long way to determine the winner.
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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Swiss now up 3-2. NZL had the lead around the top mark, but blew out the spinniker and were slow to replace it. Lost by 19 seconds.
Blacque Jacque Shallaque
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WOW...WHAT A FINISH!!! Best finish to a race I've ever seen. Swiss win 5-2...I had the score right, just the wrong team. NZL made too many mistakes and it cost them. Probably be back in Valencia in 3 years. Here's hoping someone can put togather an American boat that can win and bring the cup back home.
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