Odds Conor can make it to a decision...win, lose or draw?
Conor will get "only" $75-80 million. And he has to spend 12 rounds getting punched in the face by Floyd Mayweather.Uncle Boo Boo said:
This fight is corny. They should've at least agreed to MMA gloves. Better yet, box the first five, then switch to MMA for 3 rounds - put pressure on Floyd to knock Conor out.
This will be the easiest $100m that Floyd and Conor ever make.
LMFAO. No he is not. McGregor is not a more powerful puncher than Floyd Mayweather.jtstanley4621 said:
I guess you can never say that someone has NO shot, but I agree with what's been said earlier. McGregor is definitely a more powerful puncher than Mayweather is, but I don't know if that will matter at all.
Mayweather is going to dance around the ring the entire time. McGregor is gonna have to come after him, and that could lead to Mayweather tiring him out in a big way. McGregor has likely never gone 12 rounds before, at least in an official boxing sense.
It's annoying because Floyd is absolutely a POS, and it would be hysterical to see him lose his undefeated legacy because of this fight. Do not think it happens though. McGregor has virtually no shot to win on decision and I just don't see him being able to get to Floyd with enough consistency to knock him out.
Wishin' and hopin'.thirdcoast said:
The most shocking thing is the public's expectation vs the money coming in on Floyd.
There are much better odds than I expected for Mayweather right now. The entire country of Ireland must have bet the ranch.
Kellso said:LMFAO. No he is not. McGregor is not a more powerful puncher than Floyd Mayweather.jtstanley4621 said:
I guess you can never say that someone has NO shot, but I agree with what's been said earlier. McGregor is definitely a more powerful puncher than Mayweather is, but I don't know if that will matter at all.
Mayweather is going to dance around the ring the entire time. McGregor is gonna have to come after him, and that could lead to Mayweather tiring him out in a big way. McGregor has likely never gone 12 rounds before, at least in an official boxing sense.
It's annoying because Floyd is absolutely a POS, and it would be hysterical to see him lose his undefeated legacy because of this fight. Do not think it happens though. McGregor has virtually no shot to win on decision and I just don't see him being able to get to Floyd with enough consistency to knock him out.
An elite Boxers hand speed and power is on a whole different level than an MMA athlete.
If an MMA athlete had hand speed and punching power like an elite boxer then he would be boxing and getting paid $10-25 Million per fight and not getting paid peanuts to be screwed over by Dana White in the UFC.
Canelo Alvarez is probably the hardest striker in the boxing game right now. A Mexican version of Mike Tyson. Mayweather went toe to toe with Alvarez the entire fight and completly outclassed him.
What do I know....Michael Bisping and Chael Sonnen say the exact same thing.
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If he did hit harder, he'd finish everyone he faced (a lot of little guys btw) with his exceptional movement. Instead, he runs and uses superior defensive boxing to outpoint his opponents. Conor, meanwhile, sleeps nearly everyone he faces.
Not ignoring anything. Conor fights men just like Mayweather does. The interesting thing is that when Conor lands his left hand, they all fall down. Why is that? Many other fighters have fought Dustin Porrier, Eddie Alvarez, Nate Diaz, Jose Aldo, etc. Many have hit those guys. They didn't fall down looking dumbfounded like they did when Conor's left landed. Comparatively speaking, Floyd hits his opponents all the time and they don't fall down. He hasn't KO'd anyone in years.thirdcoast said:Quote:
If he did hit harder, he'd finish everyone he faced (a lot of little guys btw) with his exceptional movement. Instead, he runs and uses superior defensive boxing to outpoint his opponents. Conor, meanwhile, sleeps nearly everyone he faces.
Do you think Connor would be KO'ing these guys in UFC with +10oz gloves?
Do you think Floyd would have the same results with 4oz gloves?
Not sure how you can ignore the physics between the fist and jaw as it relates to KOs. On top of that, you have MMA fighters who expose themselves having to defend everything else, while boxers just have to bob and weave with their gloves/pads protecting their head.
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Boxing is about changing the look....its about variation at the world class level...thats how boxing works.
Agreed. The only way I think Conor could do it is to go all out for a knockout. But that would require getting close to Floyd, and Floyd is definitely okay with just running away and winning on decision. Don't see how it happens unfortunately.AustinAg2012 said:
I really hope Conor pulls the huge upset and beats Floyd's women-hitting ass... But, it's not gonna happen. I don't see Floyd knocking Conor out (at least early in the fight), but he'll definitely win by unanimous decision 'cause of how much he moves/dances around the ring.
aggierogue said:Not ignoring anything. Conor fights men just like Mayweather does. The interesting thing is that when Conor lands his left hand, they all fall down. Why is that? Many other fighters have fought Dustin Porrier, Eddie Alvarez, Nate Diaz, Jose Aldo, etc. Many have hit those guys. They didn't fall down looking dumbfounded like they did when Conor's left landed. Comparatively speaking, Floyd hits his opponents all the time and they don't fall down. He hasn't KO'd anyone in years.thirdcoast said:Quote:
If he did hit harder, he'd finish everyone he faced (a lot of little guys btw) with his exceptional movement. Instead, he runs and uses superior defensive boxing to outpoint his opponents. Conor, meanwhile, sleeps nearly everyone he faces.
Do you think Connor would be KO'ing these guys in UFC with +10oz gloves?
Do you think Floyd would have the same results with 4oz gloves?
Not sure how you can ignore the physics between the fist and jaw as it relates to KOs. On top of that, you have MMA fighters who expose themselves having to defend everything else, while boxers just have to bob and weave with their gloves/pads protecting their head.
Now either the MMA guys that Conor hits just aren't the same kind of men (jaw-wise and the ability to take a punch), or common sense would tell you that Conor just has a much more powerful punch.
Floyd Mayweather is not known to be a heavy puncher in boxing. He's also fighting and landing (at a high pace actually) on much smaller individuals whose physical makeup wouldn't be able to take the same power that a guy like Eddie Alvarez or Nate Diaz (larger men) can take.
Conor, on the other hand, has fought larger men and sits them routinely. Many who have sparred with him say he hits like a middleweight.
It's okay to champion Mayweather without trying to argue erroneously that he is a harder puncher.
Mayweather most likely wins the fight. But it won't be b/c he has more power.
Don't disagree. But we aren't comparing boxers in general. We're comparing McGregor vs Mayweather on power. Conor has more, but I agree Mayweather likely embarrasses him. I'm still pulling for Conor and the MMA world.ATM9000 said:aggierogue said:Not ignoring anything. Conor fights men just like Mayweather does. The interesting thing is that when Conor lands his left hand, they all fall down. Why is that? Many other fighters have fought Dustin Porrier, Eddie Alvarez, Nate Diaz, Jose Aldo, etc. Many have hit those guys. They didn't fall down looking dumbfounded like they did when Conor's left landed. Comparatively speaking, Floyd hits his opponents all the time and they don't fall down. He hasn't KO'd anyone in years.thirdcoast said:Quote:
If he did hit harder, he'd finish everyone he faced (a lot of little guys btw) with his exceptional movement. Instead, he runs and uses superior defensive boxing to outpoint his opponents. Conor, meanwhile, sleeps nearly everyone he faces.
Do you think Connor would be KO'ing these guys in UFC with +10oz gloves?
Do you think Floyd would have the same results with 4oz gloves?
Not sure how you can ignore the physics between the fist and jaw as it relates to KOs. On top of that, you have MMA fighters who expose themselves having to defend everything else, while boxers just have to bob and weave with their gloves/pads protecting their head.
Now either the MMA guys that Conor hits just aren't the same kind of men (jaw-wise and the ability to take a punch), or common sense would tell you that Conor just has a much more powerful punch.
Floyd Mayweather is not known to be a heavy puncher in boxing. He's also fighting and landing (at a high pace actually) on much smaller individuals whose physical makeup wouldn't be able to take the same power that a guy like Eddie Alvarez or Nate Diaz (larger men) can take.
Conor, on the other hand, has fought larger men and sits them routinely. Many who have sparred with him say he hits like a middleweight.
It's okay to champion Mayweather without trying to argue erroneously that he is a harder puncher.
Mayweather most likely wins the fight. But it won't be b/c he has more power.
MMA attacks have a wider breadth, boxing is way tighter. As a result, you have one sport where it's way easier to find openings to throw completely wind up haymakers (MMA) vs. boxing where nearly every punch thrown is coming from a tight place. That's why KO's in MMA in general are way more common. Has nothing to do with MMA fighters having more power. It has to do with the difference in the 2 sports.
Boxers generally pack more powerful punches and are miles quicker and more efficient than MMA fighters. That's the nature of the 2 sports. Obviously, either would lose in the other one's sport (boxer would lose MMA, MMA fighter lose a boxing match). Would be shocked if Mayweather takes this to decision and doubly shocked if he were to drop the match. A fight like this is fun, but in no reality is it an even or interesting matchup. Mayweather is going to roll McGregor.
aggierogue said:Don't disagree. But we aren't comparing boxers in general. We're comparing McGregor vs Mayweather on power. Conor has more, but I agree Mayweather likely embarrasses him. I'm still pulling for Conor and the MMA world.ATM9000 said:aggierogue said:Not ignoring anything. Conor fights men just like Mayweather does. The interesting thing is that when Conor lands his left hand, they all fall down. Why is that? Many other fighters have fought Dustin Porrier, Eddie Alvarez, Nate Diaz, Jose Aldo, etc. Many have hit those guys. They didn't fall down looking dumbfounded like they did when Conor's left landed. Comparatively speaking, Floyd hits his opponents all the time and they don't fall down. He hasn't KO'd anyone in years.thirdcoast said:Quote:
If he did hit harder, he'd finish everyone he faced (a lot of little guys btw) with his exceptional movement. Instead, he runs and uses superior defensive boxing to outpoint his opponents. Conor, meanwhile, sleeps nearly everyone he faces.
Do you think Connor would be KO'ing these guys in UFC with +10oz gloves?
Do you think Floyd would have the same results with 4oz gloves?
Not sure how you can ignore the physics between the fist and jaw as it relates to KOs. On top of that, you have MMA fighters who expose themselves having to defend everything else, while boxers just have to bob and weave with their gloves/pads protecting their head.
Now either the MMA guys that Conor hits just aren't the same kind of men (jaw-wise and the ability to take a punch), or common sense would tell you that Conor just has a much more powerful punch.
Floyd Mayweather is not known to be a heavy puncher in boxing. He's also fighting and landing (at a high pace actually) on much smaller individuals whose physical makeup wouldn't be able to take the same power that a guy like Eddie Alvarez or Nate Diaz (larger men) can take.
Conor, on the other hand, has fought larger men and sits them routinely. Many who have sparred with him say he hits like a middleweight.
It's okay to champion Mayweather without trying to argue erroneously that he is a harder puncher.
Mayweather most likely wins the fight. But it won't be b/c he has more power.
MMA attacks have a wider breadth, boxing is way tighter. As a result, you have one sport where it's way easier to find openings to throw completely wind up haymakers (MMA) vs. boxing where nearly every punch thrown is coming from a tight place. That's why KO's in MMA in general are way more common. Has nothing to do with MMA fighters having more power. It has to do with the difference in the 2 sports.
Boxers generally pack more powerful punches and are miles quicker and more efficient than MMA fighters. That's the nature of the 2 sports. Obviously, either would lose in the other one's sport (boxer would lose MMA, MMA fighter lose a boxing match). Would be shocked if Mayweather takes this to decision and doubly shocked if he were to drop the match. A fight like this is fun, but in no reality is it an even or interesting matchup. Mayweather is going to roll McGregor.
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Would be shocked if Mayweather takes this to decision and doubly shocked if he were to drop the match. A fight like this is fun, but in no reality is it an even or interesting matchup. Mayweather is going to roll McGregor.
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Would be shocked if Mayweather takes this to decision and doubly shocked if he were to drop the match. A fight like this is fun, but in no reality is it an even or interesting matchup. Mayweather is going to roll McGregor.
Odds favor a Mayweather decision over a Mayweather KO. Not sure why you would be shocked.
Conor grew up boxing and won an amateur/novice title in Dublin at age 16. The only real video of Conor sparring came out June 2016 with the south african pro. He has had a year to do nothing but boxing, with hired pro boxers. Im not saying Conor is anywhere near Mayweather's level, even at 40 yo. BUT, IF Conor's gameplan is just to survive 12 rounds, and Mayweather's plan is to dance around Conor making him look stupid, then many people may be shocked amd disappointed.
Floyd can defend the sport of boxing and go for KO, or he can choose to defend his own legacy and dominate on defense and points. Mayweather goes for the KO, only IF the opportunity presents itself in rd 8-12, if not, he just puts on a boxing clinic.
So wait, you're predicting a dominating victory for Floyd in which one of the judges scores the fight a draw?thirdcoast said:
8oz gloves approved. More PPV cash for Floyd.
Floyd still going to dance around, pop-pop-pop, dance, pop-pop-pop, dance...make Conor look like an amateur, and take the majority decision with ease.
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