we just keep loosing close ones...middle of the pack big 12 aint going to do to make ncaa's again...

Sorry but time for a troop movement of coaches I guess

and to think I was excited about this team only 3 weeks ago

I think this will tell us all we need to know where volleyball is concerned. If Byrne doesn't make a change this off-season, then he has accepted that program as a chronic also-ran and that is where it will remain.

And that's a shame the way the other women's programs are succeeding.

Changes have been necessary for no less than 2 years. Hopefully, BB will make the move but will financial issues prevent it from happening.

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I've been very critical of the staff for several years, but I disagree they should have been gone atleast 2 years ago. Two years ago our program wasn't far removed from a pretty darn good streak. Now, I realize we dropped off, but I think the Corbelli's deserved the benefit of the doubt at that time.

I realize you "told us so" and that's a good call on your part, but I do think they earned a chance to stay around a little while.

They havn't seized that chance, though, and the pressure is ON.

The pressure should be "off" and the decision already made. The outcome of the last 4 years is a result of decisions made years prior to that. It's only the visual outcome of the consistent failure that has been evident for the past 4 seasons. The period of "deserving another chance" (and another, and another...) has long passed.

You must have at least a .500 or better conference record to even be eligible for the NCAA tourney...if we lose at Oklahoma and Nebraska as is likely then we are 7-10 with three to play. Tech shouldnt be a problem and if we lose to them it is very sad. Colorado on road we had last year and gave away. Missouri at home always plays us tough. We need those three wins just to be ELIGIBLE not to be in...my opinion we are out with at least 5 (maybe 6) teams likely ahead of us in conference at the end of the season...Texas, Nebraska, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma. Missouri will be playing us at end of season with either the exact same record or one ahead of us...that means it will be just as important to them as to us

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The pressure should be "off" and the decision already made. The outcome of the last 4 years is a result of decisions made years prior to that. It's only the visual outcome of the consistent failure that has been evident for the past 4 seasons. The period of "deserving another chance" (and another, and another...) has long passed.

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Well, I'm not in favor of deserving another and another and another and another...in fact, I've been one of, if not the most, critical poster on this board for awhile.

That said, I'm not one to support a firing based on anything but a good sixed sample of results (unless there are ethical issues, of course). I think you're setting yourself up for all sorts of problems if you start firing for anything other than that.

I think the Corbelli's deserved a chance to turn things around. They had earned it. They havn't seized the opportunity, though, and again, that's why I've been very critical of them for awhile.

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Ya know, I think that if you show the records over the past several years, and compare them to the rest of the athletics program, and run it blind as to which sport it is, 99 out of 100 say they're gone. It's almost as though people feel bad calling for a volleyball coach's job, because in highschool, volleyball is, at most schools, not very cuthroat, and the players are not overly competitive, and everyone's there to stay in shape, have a good time, and hopefully win some games.

But this is Major NCAA athletics. Barring an unlikely entry into the tourny, and some kind of a great run once we get there, they need to be gone, if it's purely an issue of the level of performance of the team.

Now, with all of the politics of the AD, and the financial situation that it's in, I really don't know a whole lot about it (and I don't know if anyone on TA really knows as much about it as we think we do), so perhaps there's some complex reason why they're going to stick around.

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It's almost as though people feel bad calling for a volleyball coach's job, because in highschool, volleyball is, at most schools, not very cuthroat, and the players are not overly competitive, and everyone's there to stay in shape, have a good time, and hopefully win some games.

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Seems to me everyone around here has been calling for their head with ease.

All I've said was they had done enough to wear their heads didn't need to be chopped off the second things turned sour.

My high school, by the way, was/is among the top 5A programs in this state. It was cutthroat and our student body packed the gym every Tuesday and Friday (and then would migrate to the football field...I was a football player and didn't participate in the Friday activities, though)

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All I've said was they had done enough to wear their heads didn't need to be chopped off the second things turned sour.

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Time for a new watch?

Almost everyone who's followed this team over the last several years felt we should be doing better but knew we had some good coaches with a good history and deserved more time. Based on some of the coaches' fates in other sports, LC has definitely had lots of slack given to her, and most here had no major problem with that.

bqce, again, I've been as critical as them for awhile now as anyone on this board has.

I just don't think they should have been fired simply because 2006 went sour. I think they showed enough in 2007 to make it hard then, as well. Or as whoop insinuated that I made that comment in response too, even before they actually had a bad season.

Now we're on four, though, and yet again, I think I've been as critical about them as anyone on this board for awhile.

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I just wanted to point out that "the second" was hyperbole, and shouldn't go unnoticed. Their heads aren't being chopped of "the second things turned sour" which is exactly what you said.

That's actually not what I said at all.

Nevertheless, just let me say I think we all agree. The Corbellis, barring something amazing, need to be gone.

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The team should have performed better this year down the stretch against mid and low level opponents in the Big 12. The team has under acheived when based upon critical points mainly in terms of ball control which means the ball will gererally go to Sarah Ammerman or possibly Mary Battis reagrdless of back row attack. This is known throughtout the conference and the setting lacks any decption. Whatwas clearly evident by the setter for Oklahoma was the ability to get key one on one matchups even if ball control wasnt the greatest. You can have the excuse that we are playing 2 freshman in the middle (now a soph) but that enlies the problem. Lack of recruiting in advance of need to prepare them for collegiate play. The stars may be able to come in as freshman and play but you need to have players already there in position. Why did we have two starting middles that were freshman? Why are we going to have a starteing setter next year a freshman? Why will likely one of the Oh be a freshman? and these recruits are not Destiny Hooker or Ashley Engle types that can come in for immediate upgrade to elite position players. A lack of depth of quality collegiate players to sustain a top 25 program has not been in the program since the 1990's.

beat OU 3-1 in Norman

Big win for the hope of NCAA's this year. Should guarentee us at least a .500 record necessary for NCAA eligibility to post season. If win out we are 18-10 with better non conference schedule than in past. Glad to see the team on an upswing.

It should be known that we've also had some injuries. Cara Quayle was going to play middle for us and she can no longer play due to knee problems and then Stephanie Minnerly tore her ACL this season. Things happen, but I'm very proud of the girls winning in Norman today! They've been working hard all year, but I think next season is going to be pretty rough =/ Losing both setters and your top three attackers doesn't exactly make things easy

I think winning two out of the last three will get the Aggies into the tournament, with quality wins over NU and now OU.

Just a general FYI, the Aggies have to win 2 out of the last 3 to be eligible for the post-season.

As far as that getting them in, I don't know. I still think the Missouri game might be a must-win.

We lose that and we finish 7th in the conference, Missouri will have swept the series, have a similar RPI, etc...

We won't get in over the other five.

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The requirement for an at-large bid into the tournament is only that the overall (as opposed to conference) record is above .500 so Texas A&M is qualified already.

Currently the Aggies have an RPI ranking of 41 with quality wins over Nebraska (12), Baylor (31) and a late season win over Oklahoma (42). Definitely on the bubble right now but the win over NU looks really good. I think the Big 12 will be viewed favorably in selections so that will help. Texas A&M will seriously help their cause by winning out.

For the Big 12 at this point, IMHO:
Automatic bid: Texas
Locks: Iowa State, Nebraska
Probable: Oklahoma, Baylor
Bubble: Missouri (RPI 52), Texas A&M
Highly improbable: Kansas
DNQ: Kansas State, Colorado, Texas Tech

I bet either Missouri or Texas A&M get in (and not both), so it may come down to the winner of that final match in College Station next Saturday.





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A Missouri win puts gives them that 2-0 record against us and atleast the same record against common opponents.

Those are two of the committees major criterion.

They smashed OU a few matches ago, so our win over them really isn't going to mean a lot. We'll see what happens in Colombia in a few days, as they get their second matchup with Baylor.

We lose and we're depending on a slightly better RPI and a win over Nebraska to counter all I said above.


That still might be enough, but we'd be cutting is darn close.