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I can't help but think of how hilarious it would be in 50 years if students in history classes are learning about the North Korea crisis and there's an entire chapter on Rogen and Franco.
Textbook chapter 3 title: This is the End
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I can't help but think of how hilarious it would be in 50 years if students in history classes are learning about the North Korea crisis and there's an entire chapter on Rogen and Franco.
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Why does The Debt think terrorist threats are so funny?
quote:You're really dumb. How does this help Sony? They want to make money. They make money by getting butts in chairs at The Interview. Now theatre chains are dropping the film. We are living in a post-Dark Knight Rises massacre world, and precaution makes sense. How does this help Sony? You think consumers are smart enough to know what films Sony makes, and that this "sympathetic portrayal" will drive people to their other movies? No. Almost no one knows what studio a film comes from unless that studio is Disney. A sympathetic portrayal helps them not at all.
Sony gets more sympathy, might even be a martyr.
quote:Solid plan for having logical discussion...but clearly that's not what you're here for.
When a theater gets attacked I will recant it all. Until then this smells like BS.
quote:Where exactly are you placing the line on what is BS and what isn't? These exact same outlets have for weeks been running leaked emails that do major harm to the reputations of Sony execs and their business relationships. Is that part of the "BS" too? Did Sony throw a bunch of reputation and relationship capital points away for the box office gross of a relatively low budget R rated comedy film as part of a "conspiracy"? Or is it only when the term "terrorist" gets involved that you decided to venture over from the Politics board and start claiming "conspiracy"?
Also, controversy has made crappy films get extra attention and revenue. And no one I know was deterred by TDKR shooting, not even the older ladies.
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Whether or not this group actually follows through is irrelevant to the point being argued. It's that you immediately jumped to can't-be-convinced-otherwise conspiracy theory mode based on nothing more than an illinformed hunch.
quote:The people that would go for the heckler's veto first are kind of obvious.
Honestly, this is what scares me the most...
Steven E. de Souza @StevenEdeSouza
If theaters blink on The Interview a precedent will be set for domestic nut jobs on films about abortion,sex,religion or politics #SonyHack
Some idiots disagree with a movie's subject matter, they're just going to start threatening to blow up the theaters playing it, now that a precedent has been set.
quote:I think everyone looks fine except for Debt.
No one looks good in this argument.
quote:Thing is, the hackers could claim they could reach data as to who downloads it as well. That's an empty threat, probably, but may still scare some people off downloading it.
And... The Arclight just announced they won't be showing The Interview either. There's now a decent chance it straight up won't be released in theaters at all, which would be insane. If this keeps up, my guess is it goes straight to VOD eventually.
Again, it's not so much about this movie in particular - I won't be heartbroken if I can't see it in theaters - but this could very well set a precedent, and I hate to think of what that might do to the industry. Nothing even remotely controversial, no more "statement" movies, simply because these giant corporations and theater chains would be liable if any future whackjobs went through with their threats, which are sure to come again, sooner or later, now that they know they can actually have an impact.
quote:What is it about this that is not already real life? This is a massive security breach. The private data that's been released is bad news. Already.
When a theater gets attacked I will recant it all. Until then this smells like BS.
Also, controversy has made crappy films get extra attention and revenue. And no one I know was deterred by TDKR shooting, not even the older ladies.
Btw tc, it's a poor tactic to equate this circumstance to random conspiracies in order to discredit. Until this group actually executes these "attacks" it's in itself is conjecture, thus the response is subject to criticism and evaluating of sources. In all likelihood, if this is actually coming from the same group, the threat is the extent of their RL action.
quote:You can hardly blame them though. Violence or not, they could be the next targets of hacking.
I also just want to be clear that I don't think these assh*les are even remotely capable of whatever it is they're claiming they'll do, when it comes to actually killing. I'm mainly just concerned that theater chains are actually giving them this power, and what that means going forward.
quote:quote:What is it about this that is not already real life? This is a massive security breach. The private data that's been released is bad news. Already.
When a theater gets attacked I will recant it all. Until then this smells like BS.
Also, controversy has made crappy films get extra attention and revenue. And no one I know was deterred by TDKR shooting, not even the older ladies.
Btw tc, it's a poor tactic to equate this circumstance to random conspiracies in order to discredit. Until this group actually executes these "attacks" it's in itself is conjecture, thus the response is subject to criticism and evaluating of sources. In all likelihood, if this is actually coming from the same group, the threat is the extent of their RL action.
That coupled with this threat, however hollow, is crippling a major corporation.
quote:Yeah, when someone steals your identity and ****s up your credit make sure you tell everyone it's not real life.quote:quote:What is it about this that is not already real life? This is a massive security breach. The private data that's been released is bad news. Already.
When a theater gets attacked I will recant it all. Until then this smells like BS.
Also, controversy has made crappy films get extra attention and revenue. And no one I know was deterred by TDKR shooting, not even the older ladies.
Btw tc, it's a poor tactic to equate this circumstance to random conspiracies in order to discredit. Until this group actually executes these "attacks" it's in itself is conjecture, thus the response is subject to criticism and evaluating of sources. In all likelihood, if this is actually coming from the same group, the threat is the extent of their RL action.
That coupled with this threat, however hollow, is crippling a major corporation.
internets isn't RL. If you have secrets it's best to keep them offline. Corporate espionage has existed for hundreds of years, Sony was just vulnerable to get hit.
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Question: Have they hacked sony playstation data?
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Question: Have they hacked sony playstation data?
The PS servers were down for a bit around the same time as the hacks - and Sony didn't know why, apparently - but it doesn't look like any information was stolen. I think if it had been, a much bigger deal would have been made about it. For now, it sounds like the hacks have pertained only to Sony Pictures, though I could be wrong.