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Preserving rivalries vs. pursuing playoffs: SEC scheduling will favor one

May 30, 2023
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SANDESTIN, Fla. — Maybe the Southeastern Conference slogan should change to ‘It just means less.”

After all, less is more. Right?

Several football coaches speaking at the SEC spring meetings on Tuesday at the Sandestin Hilton Resort seemed to embrace that familiar oxymoron.

Their message was clear: Fewer conference games are more advantageous to reaching the College Football Playoff.

The CFP expands from four teams to 12 in 2024. Whaddya know, that’s also the year the SEC expands to 16 teams with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma.

The original thought was that the SEC would change its scheduling model from eight conference games to nine. Under the nine-game models, schools would rotate six other opponents each season.

More conference teams meant more conference games for the SEC, where it just means more.

“If you’re an SEC opponent, and you’re really quality, and you’ve won a lot of good games, but you dropped two to top teams or a third one, do you still get in when the playoff expands?”
- Auburn head coach Hugh Freeze

But some coaches worry more SEC games lessen the chances of getting into the College Football Playoff.

What if Auburn finished 9-3 with competitive losses to Georgia, Alabama and Florida? Would the Tigers be passed over by a 10-2 team from a lesser conference like the ACC or Big 12?

As Aggies are all too aware, there are no assurances. In 2020, Texas A&M was left out of the four-team playoff, despite having an 8-1 record and only losing to eventual national champion Alabama. The Aggies were passed over in favor of Notre Dame and Ohio State, which played only six games.

That’s what worries SEC coaches.

“There’s a ton of variables here relative to revenue created, relative to the metric of strength of schedule, relative to the playoff,” Florida coach Billy Napier said. “To me, that’s the most critical factor. How is the College Football Playoff going to view strength of schedule relative to the metrics that contribute to at-large bids?”

Auburn coach Hugh Freeze echoed those thoughts.

“If you’re an SEC opponent, and you’re really quality, and you’ve won a lot of good games, but you dropped two to top teams or a third one, do you still get in when the playoff expands?”

Still, a month ago — heck, a week ago — the move to a nine-game SEC schedule in 2024 appeared a done deal. No longer would carnivorous SEC predators take a late November break to devour an FCS cupcake.

But there’s seemingly been an uprising for downsizing.

The argument for an eight-game model which features one permanent rival and seven rotating opponents has gained traction.

Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina and Mississippi State are reportedly against the nine-game model. Vanderbilt probably is, too. Tennessee? Ole Miss? Who knows?

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The Texas Longhorns and Oklahoma Sooners will join the SEC on July 1, 2024.

Surprisingly, Alabama reportedly favors the eight-game model. That’s odd because as recently as last year’s spring meetings, Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban advocated for a nine-game conference schedule.

“I think one of the more difficult things in going to nine games is we’ve tried to schedule two out-of-conference Power 5 games to improve our strength of schedule over the next seven, eight, nine, 10 years,” Saban said. “If we go to nine games, we’ll have to unwind that. My deal was always, let’s play more SEC games because we couldn’t get other people to schedule. Now, I think there’s more people in tune to scheduling.”

Applaud Saban for wanting to honor commitments to future opponents. Except that Saban has also complained about LSU, Tennessee and Auburn being Alabama’s about three permanent opponents in the nine-game model.

The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma.

An eight-game model would sacrifice playing many of those traditional rivalries on an annual basis.

Proponents argue it's worth the sacrifice. Rivalries mean a lot, but an easier path to the playoff just means more.

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Preserving rivalries vs. pursuing playoffs: SEC scheduling will favor one

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rathAG05
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Good article, Olin. College football just isn't that great anymore. Recruiting sucks with the transfer portal, and the idea of mega conferences and posturing for an easier path is pathetic. Play the games. Quite being *******.
northeastag
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"The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma."

Texas and Texas A&M are no longer traditional rivalries. Haven't played them in years.
rrtodds
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When coaches rotate out in 4-5 years does the SEC take a new poll and decide to play 9 instead of 8 to improve strength of schedules?

How about ask the fans … I want to see better teams playing better games/schedules!

Cupcakes are for birthday parties … play more SEC games and less pay-for-wins games!

No more divisions … that sucks, too.
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northeastag said:

"The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma."

Texas and Texas A&M are no longer traditional rivalries. Haven't played them in years.
Has nothing to do with "traditional rivalries". Has everything to do with the money it would generate.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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man one permanent rival would really defuse a lot of what makes the sec the best conference in the nation. yes it is on the field but the historic rivalries, the pomp and circumstance, is what makes the sec so special. a lot of that would be lost if their is only one permanent rival.

to me getting 3-4 teams in a playoff instead of 4-5 is worth the difficulty of playing the extra sec game if rivalries are maintained.
Sethtevious
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If ESPN isn't going to pay more for 9 conference games, stick with the 8 game model.

The SEC has dominated college football with the 8 game model, no reason to fix something that isn't broke.

If this means it wrecks 'traditional' rivalries like LSU-Ole Miss and Bama-Tennessee and Auburn-Georgia and punishes all the schools that voted to bring texas to the SEC, that's even better.
TyperWoods
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I'll probably end up watching, but right now I have no desire to see us play tu in conference play. I'm seriously considering not watching college football after 2023.
Reno Hightower
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Hopefully once playing them resumes we beat them regularly and then, win THE GAME AFTER! The only 2 coaches since the mid 80's able to do that were Jackie & Tim DeRuyter. Nearly every victory over 'sip was followed up with a loss.
Sethtevious
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Is this some weird commentary on our bowl record?

Because playing a game a month after the season ends has little to nothing to do with a season-ending rivalry game with texas.
Houstonag
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Playoff opportunities should prevail.
TexAggie1999
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Hopefully the conference grows a pair and goes to 9 conference games. Playing 3 cupcakes per year (and often a fourth easy out of conference team) is a joke. Doing this just because the SEC might get another team in the playoffs is silly. Any SEC team with a legitimate chance to win the championship is going to make the playoffs anyway.

In the end, money probably wins out and there would be too much money left on the table if we continue with the schedule full of cupcakes. Time for the SEC to improve its diet.
Sethtevious
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8 game conference schedule means all conference teams suffer when they bring in texas and OU, as they should. Non-conference cupcakes has nothing to do with it.
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northeastag said:

"The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma."

Texas and Texas A&M are no longer traditional rivalries. Haven't played them in years.
Its equally worth noting that playing teams regularly is as likely to maintain better competition throughout the conference. I think the 7-1 model will be used for at least a few years…perhaps at least a four year complete rotation.

The Saban comments comparing to the NFL that I think I read here were pertinent. In the NFL divisions have close to perfectly balanced schedules that only are have two games not against shared teams. Saban noted that results in outcomes that can be as close as 8-8 teams making the playoffs (now even 8-9). That's acceptable and marketable because the playoff process is very well defined and transparent.

While a non-transparent process continues to be used, there is very little reason to give up schedules that can produce better final results numerically. With better competition you only are first in line for the teams with the same number of losses (with the exception of conferences with lower competition levels.)

The eye test needs to go if folks want better competition. More transparency on playoff selection allows better scheduling.
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northeastag said:

"The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma."

Texas and Texas A&M are no longer traditional rivalries. Haven't played them in years.
You can't say that our rivalry with tu isn't "traditional". A&M prides itself on traditions... many of which have to do with our time against the burnt orange. You may not like it, but it's true and I don't understand why you would be willing to deny 118 years of tradition. (you know we've played them that many times right??) If that's not a traditional rivalry then such a thing clearly doesn't exist in college football...
Slicer97
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11 seasons in this conference and we still haven't hosted Georgia. tu or OU will probably get them at home before we do.
northeastag
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Fitzwilly said:

northeastag said:

"The nine-game model maintains traditional rivalries. LSU could still play Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Auburn could still play Georgia. Texas could play Texas A&M and Oklahoma."

Texas and Texas A&M are no longer traditional rivalries. Haven't played them in years.
You can't say that our rivalry with tu isn't "traditional". A&M prides itself on traditions... many of which have to do with our time against the burnt orange. You may not like it, but it's true and I don't understand why you would be willing to deny 118 years of tradition. (you know we've played them that many times right??) If that's not a traditional rivalry then such a thing clearly doesn't exist in college football...


It WAS a traditional rivalry. But it's over.

And aside, Texas may have been our rivalry at one point, but we were an irritable gnat to them. Their primary rival since the advent of the Red River Rivalry has been and will continue to be Oklahoma. (And they've also played 118 times, since counting games appears to mean something)

It's surprising to me just how many Aggies are excited to get back to gnat status.
aggiemom93
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TyperWoods said:

I'll probably end up watching, but right now I have no desire to see us play tu in conference play. I'm seriously considering not watching college football after 2023.
What concerns me about this...IF they play us EVERY year, that will eliminate them having to play one top-notch team (Alabama, Georgia, etc). It's all about what's best for the sips. Grow a pair Bjork.
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