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Ring the Bell: On premature proclamations of A&M recruiting's death

May 17, 2016
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First, there was Lazarus. Then, there was Paul McCartney. Now, there is Ol’ Sarge.

Every now and then the Reaper’s grip slips.

The most recent example occurred last week. On Thursday ESPN.com released an article which proclaimed that Texas A&M was no longer the football recruiting leader in the state.

The Aggies, according to ESPN, have been replaced by Texas.

The author of the article, respected recruiting analyst Jeremy Crabtree, supported that position with a quote from an anonymous source — identified only as an SEC West Divison coach who recruits Houston and East Texas — that claimed the “Death Knell” has sounded for A&M.

That’s cause for alarm.

Well, except that one day later the Aggies received a commitment from safety Derrick Tucker, a four-star ranked recruit from Manvel (Houston area) who also has offers from Alabama, USC and — yes — Texas.

One day after the death knell, Kevin Sumlin won a major head-to-head recruiting joust with Charlie Strong.

That’s kind of reminiscent of the Paul McCartney death rumors of 1969. Those rumors were stoked by the iconic Abbey Road album cover which showed the Beatles walking in a funeral procession through a crosswalk.

The A&M Sports Information Department should borrow that idea for the cover of this season’s football media guide — photograph A&M coaches John Chavis, Larry Jackson, Kevin Sumlin and Aaron Moorehead walking across Houston Street toward Kyle Field. {"Module":"quote","Alignment":"left","Quote":"The A\u0026M Sports Information Department should borrow that idea for the cover of this season’s football media guide — photograph A\u0026M coaches John Chavis, Larry Jackson, Kevin Sumlin and Aaron Moorehead walking across Houston Street toward Kyle Field.","Author":""}
According to pop culture, John Lennon was dressed in white to symbolize a heavenly figure. Ringo Starr’s black attire symbolized the undertaker. George Harrison’s denim jeans and shirt symbolized the grave digger. A barefoot McCartney symbolized the corpse.

The A&M Sports Information Department should borrow that idea for the cover of this season’s football media guide — photograph A&M coaches John Chavis, Larry Jackson, Kevin Sumlin and Aaron Moorehead walking across Houston Street toward Kyle Field.

Chavis, the defensive godsend, would be clad in white. Jackson, aka the Black Death, would, of course, wear black. Sumlin, for whose program the bell supposedly tolls, would be bare-footed. Moorehead, whose recent ill-advised tweets dug the hole that A&M supposedly is in, would represent the grave digger.

The point is that Paul McCartney obviously was not dead and neither is A&M recruiting. Why anyone would suggest that in May is extremely curious.

True, Texas has won some recent recruiting battles against A&M – most notably linebacker Malik Jefferson in 2015. But the Longhorns also recruited defensive end Justin Madubuike last year.

Madubuike, of course, signed with A&M.

No doubt, the Aggies have had some recruiting setbacks. Moorehead’s Twitter reaction to five-star quarterback Tate Martell’s decommitment certainly put the program in a negative light. One receiver — Crosby's Mannie Netherly — even used those tweets as an excuse to also decommit from A&M.

However, most recruiting insiders believed that receiver was showing signs of changing his mind anyway.

Losing a quarterback commitment raises red flags nationally because of the surprising transfers of both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray last December.

But speculation is new A&M offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone decommitted from Martell before Martell decommitted from A&M.

It’s speculated that Mazzone isn’t as bullish on Martell as previous A&M OC Jake Spavital was. Mazzone supposedly favors a bigger quarterback than the 5-11 Martell.

Martell’s father even seemed to suggest that in a recent story released on Rivals.com.

What if A&M lands a quarterback that isn’t rated as highly as Martell, but Mazzone feels is a better fit for his system? Would the death knell keep ringing then?

TexAgs The recent commitment of coveted Manvel safety Derrick Tucker and the 2016 outlook for the Aggies relative to the Longhorns paints a very different picture than the "death knell" claim.
Besides, the strength of a recruiting class isn’t really known until two or three years later.

In four years from 2009 to 2012 the Texas Longhorns thoroughly dominated recruiting in the state of Texas.

At least, that’s what national recruiting analysts said.

Texas ranked between fifth and second nationally in each of those four years. Indeed, all the Longhorns’ recruiting classes in that period were ranked at least 13 spots ahead of A&M’s.

But A&M has posted more victories than Texas in five of the past six seasons. Although A&M has had disappointing 8-5 finishes the past two seasons, Texas struggled just to qualify for — and lose — one obscure bowl game (the ’14 Texas Bowl).

The bet here is A&M will continue to post more victories in 2016 than will Texas, which still projects to have major problems at quarterback, receiver and on defense.

On-field success typically leads to recruiting success. So, if the Aggies do have a successful season, A&M recruiting will prove to be alive and well.

Just like Paul.
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Ring the Bell: On premature proclamations of A&M recruiting's death

26,127 Views | 16 Replies | Last: 8 yr ago by AgsMyDude
Olin Buchanan
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Ring the Bell: On premature proclamations of A&M recruiting's death
rocky the dog
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Interpretation: Athletes are dying to come to A&M.
Wabs
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"In four years from 2009 to 2012 the Texas Longhorns thoroughly dominated recruiting in the state of Texas."

Yet sips want us to believe the "cupboard was left bare" when Charlie was hired.
Maroon Flash
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Undrafted five star Johnathon Gray is the poster boy of sip complete lack of player development.

Charlie's staff had plenty of time to get him NFL-ready and failed.
RVHorn
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If Texas were only as good as developing five-star talent in the offensive backfield as A&M was!

QBU! QBU! QBU!
Schrute
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If Texas were only as good as developing five-star talent in the offensive backfield as A&M was!

QBU! QBU! QBU!
The difference is that A&M hasn't tried to jam the "he's a player developer" mantra down everyone's throat like the sips have for Charlie.

What player has been developed into NFL talent by Charlie Strong at Texas? I mean you would think there would be a few from the #2 ranked 2012 recruiting class. Is 2 years not enough to "develop" the talent?

Chavis must be a miracle worker, turning Brandon Williams into a 3rd round pick after one year as a DB.
Citizen Reign
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Undrafted five star Johnathon Gray is the poster boy of sip complete lack of player development.

Charlie's staff had plenty of time to get him NFL-ready and failed.
either that or he peaked in HS.
Citizen Reign
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If Texas were only as good as developing five-star talent in the offensive backfield as A&M was!

QBU! QBU! QBU!
RG3 ... pass
JFF ... pass
Winston ... pass

LOL!
FL_Ag1998
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Be careful about posting this type of positive spin on here. According to most "Zoo" posters the only correct, non-delusional frame of mind is that A&M football is a dumspter fire that is doomed to perpetual disappointment.
Citizen Reign
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Be careful about posting this type of positive spin on here. According to most "Zoo" posters the only correct, non-delusional frame of mind is that A&M football is a dumspter fire that is doomed to perpetual disappointment.
Those are the guys that sit home on weekends crying about Tate.
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Too bad Jefferson couldn't see the writing on the wall with respect to player development. He'll probably end up the same place as Gray...nowhere.


Meximan
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Chavis must be a miracle worker, turning Brandon Williams into a 3rd round pick after one year as a DB.
Chief was quick to give Terry Joseph all the credit in the world for that feat.
Lateralus Ag
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Olin calls Tucker a win head to head.

Not so fast. Wait till he signs...have we learned nothing about 17-18 year olds? He's got a host of offers, and it's a long time till February. Granted, he will be playing for Chief....so, none of the folks on his offer list can compete with that. Especially Charlie. Tom Herman? That's a different game altogether.
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Chavis must be a miracle worker, turning Brandon Williams into a 3rd round pick after one year as a DB.
Chief was quick to give Terry Joseph all the credit in the world for that feat.


What Chavis gave credit for is not necessarily where credit is due. That's what good leaders do. However, Terry Joseph didn't coach the other two corners in Arizona....
CardiffGiant
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Olin, you forgot to mention that Paul was also out of step with the rest of the "procession" and the only one with a cigarette.

Did The Beatles know something about smoking (i.e. That s--- kills) before the rest of us?

Does the Texas A&M staff know more about recruiting than the rest of us?





FL_Ag1998
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Olin calls Tucker a win head to head.

Not so fast. Wait till he signs...have we learned nothing about 17-18 year olds? He's got a host of offers, and it's a long time till February. Granted, he will be playing for Chief....so, none of the folks on his offer list can compete with that. Especially Charlie. Tom Herman? That's a different game altogether.


Agreed Lat, but that knife cuts both ways. When these clearly well-researched (obvious sarcarsm here) articles by national sportswriters proclaim that Strong has taken back recruiting and brought in tremendous classes, they never mention that his classes so far have been straw houses built upon grade risks from out of state who never pan out and don't actually see the field. They change their mind and go somewhere else, or they intentionally fail a class so they won't academically qualify for tu and go somewhere else, etc. Remember just how many of his Florida recruits actually signed on the dotted line last year. These articles that harp on every tiny little setback for us in recruiting never mention the same (or more ) setbacks for tu.
AgsMyDude
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So the longhorns make a huge unforseen last minute close to the 2016 class and all of the sudden A&M's recruiting is dead? That hilarious because Sumlin owned Chollie the previous two years in head to heads
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