If you already have the antibodies…

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Muy
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and are exposed to Covid again, does the body start to produce more antibodies?
SoTheySay
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I want to know this too!

Now would be a good time to be tested again and find this out - I have been exposed many times in the last week.
88planoAg
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as an addendum to OP, do you need a doc to send you to a lab for antibodies or can you just go straight to the lab?
KidDoc
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You need a doc to order the lab test.

Yes if you are re-infected you will produce abundant antibodies and very quickly. That is the foundation of an immune response. If you are re-exposed but it does not pass your mucosal immunity then your T-cell/humoral system is not activated and you will get an appreciable antibody boost. The feeling of being sick is your immune system activating which is a beautifully complicated series of cytokines and white cell response. It really is amazing when you dig into it.

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CinchAG97
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If your body's immune system is already producing antibodies, more antibodies will be produced when covid is encountered by your immune cells. The cells producing the antibodies will recognize the virus and do what God designed them to do - produce more antibodies.

But, the existence of antibodies is not as important as everyone thinks, and society is way too caught up in the "presence of antibodies". The body's immune system has memory cells - B and T cells - which will recognize the virus if/when encountered again, even if the antibody producing cells are no longer actively producing antibodies. When the B and T cells recognize the virus, a cascade of events occurs and antibodies begin to be produced again by your immune system. The existence of memory cells is what gives us long-term immunity, and there's no reason to think that covid is any different than any other kind of antigen.

And regarding mutations - yes, the virus will mutate. When you have natural immunity against the full virus itself, and not just the spike protein, your immune system can recognize different parts of the virus and cue the production of antibodies or invoke the B-cell and T-cell memory. So as long as some parts of the virus are recognizable to your immune system, your immune system will protect you. As the spike protein mutates away from the alpha variant, vaccine effectiveness declines and may eventually be negligible because all the vaccine does is train your immune system to recognize the alpha spike protein and nothing else on the full virus.

Here's a quote from the article linked below if you want some very technical reading:

"A hallmark of immune responses to pathogens is to create a memory of the response, which is the persistence of small numbers of pathogen-specific B and T cells and the PCs that secrete pathogen-specific Abs. Immune memory may block future infections without symptoms developing either by continued production of neutralizing Abs from long-lived PCs or, if that Ab amount diminishes, by recalling memory B and T cells to rapidly produce new PBs and thus restore high-affinity, neutralizing Abs in circulation."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7826135/
Muy
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88planoAg said:

as an addendum to OP, do you need a doc to send you to a lab for antibodies or can you just go straight to the lab?


We have a walk-in clinic where I've gotten the antibodies test every 3 months since being down in the hospital last November. They send them that day to Quest Diagnostics and I typically get the results back within 1-2
Days. Quest Diagnostics also has their own drive thru sites (Walmart in McKinney is the closest to Frisco) as well.

I do this partly for peace of mind and partly to show my Coronabro friends that the notion that antibodies disappear after 3 months is total bs.
Muy
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KidDoc said:

You need a doc to order the lab test.

Yes if you are re-infected you will produce abundant antibodies and very quickly. That is the foundation of an immune response. If you are re-exposed but it does not pass your mucosal immunity then your T-cell/humoral system is not activated and you will get an appreciable antibody boost. The feeling of being sick is your immune system activating which is a beautifully complicated series of cytokines and white cell response. It really is amazing when you dig into it.




Aside from older boy getting sick the rest of us did feel like we had bad allergies, maybe that's just our body's response to confronting it again. Enjoyed your post.
Muy
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SoTheySay said:

I want to know this too!

Now would be a good time to be tested again and find this out - I have been exposed many times in the last week.


Since we are visiting our elderly in-laws this week I'm actually getting the Covid test today to ensure I'm not exposing them to anything.
benjamintito
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Labcorp
Sign up on website, you do not need an appointment. Show up and sign in at a kiosk. I was in and out in 15 minutes. Results were emailed overnight.
88planoAg
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thanks!
RAB91
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If you live in the Houston area, the Gulf Coast Blood Center is still testing for antibodies with each donation (through the end of the year).
BBYD09
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I've had my antibodies tested 3 times since getting what I assume was delta in August. Every time my counts are higher with the last test being outside the upper range.

I'm just assuming it's because I've been regularly exposed since returning to work.
GenericAggie
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Then how do people get Covid twice?
KidDoc
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GenericAggie said:

Then how do people get Covid twice?
Their antibodies taper off over time. And with omicron re-infection is even more common due to the way it mutated.
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Muy
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Is it possible that - with the antibodies and this mild Omicron - you will test negative for having Covid?
CinchAG97
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GenericAggie said:

Then how do people get Covid twice?
The same way that people get a common cold, the flu or other respiratory viruses time and time again. The virus mutates just a little and you get reinfected, but your immune system recognizes the virus (or parts of the virus) and mounts an attack. You may feel sick for a few days and then you'll get well.

I imagine that the common cold might kill some Amazon tribes who have no natural immunity because they've never been exposed to it. Just like the world had no natural immunity to covid, and thankfully, this is changing one case at a time.
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