Re-infection rates (natural immunity vs natural vaccine vs vaccine only)

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Is there a place I can find re-infection rate data?

I do not care about hospitalization, severity, or death, simply just re-infection. I would assume the data is less because only more serious cases for the three groups above are reported with most re-infection cases not being reported.

Anyone know of anything like this or where I can find this information?
amercer
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Short answer is no.

Here is an article that talks about the problems with both the CDC and Israeli studies of vaccine vs natural immunity:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weartv.com/amp/news/coronavirus/experts-identify-potential-bias-in-cdc-natural-immunity-study

And touches on why the exact question you are asking probably won't be answered anytime soon:

" The ideal study design, Dowdy says, would involve following a vaccinated group and naturally immune group over time to see what the probability is of contracting the virus. The time element makes this type of study more difficult to perform, and the CDC chose to analyze a group of people at one point in time."

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amercer said:

Short answer is no.

Here is an article that talks about the problems with both the CDC and Israeli studies of vaccine vs natural immunity:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weartv.com/amp/news/coronavirus/experts-identify-potential-bias-in-cdc-natural-immunity-study

And touches on why the exact question you are asking probably won't be answered anytime soon:

" The ideal study design, Dowdy says, would involve following a vaccinated group and naturally immune group over time to see what the probability is of contracting the virus. The time element makes this type of study more difficult to perform, and the CDC chose to analyze a group of people at one point in time."


Thanks
bkag9824
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amercer said:

Short answer is no.

Here is an article that talks about the problems with both the CDC and Israeli studies of vaccine vs natural immunity:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weartv.com/amp/news/coronavirus/experts-identify-potential-bias-in-cdc-natural-immunity-study

And touches on why the exact question you are asking probably won't be answered anytime soon:

" The ideal study design, Dowdy says, would involve following a vaccinated group and naturally immune group over time to see what the probability is of contracting the virus. The time element makes this type of study more difficult to perform, and the CDC chose to analyze a group of people at one point in time."


I didn't read the information in the link due to time constraints. Does it mention how the original study group was unblinded and allowed to take the vaccine?

In effect, the control group has been effectively rendered non-existent, and our governmental/pharma overlords are essentially refusing to truly study the efficacy of natural immunity. I can't think of a single other time in recent history in which policymakers have so willingly and purposefully thrown their heads in the sand.

It should infuriate literally everybody.
PerpetualLurker
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Oklahoma state DOH was tracking breakthroughs and reinfections in their weekly reports.

https://oklahoma.gov/covid19/newsroom/weekly-epidemiology-and-surveillance-report.html

They stopped after the 10/3 report though.
ttha_aggie_09
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Unfortunately, no one wants to follow this data anymore… it is just "get your vaccine and move along".

It is very difficult to track since a large chunk of the population has been vaccinated and the recovered and unvaccinated group (myself included) shrinks by the day. You also have data issues due to people proclaiming they had Covid in February 2020 (or whenever) and had a negative strep/flu/whatever test and it was "definitely Covid". Some of those people then go on to actually get Covid and test positive and share all over social media they have had it twice.

Outside of this forum or anecdotal stories in which my example above is usually the case, I have not heard of a single, credible Covid reinfection. It is certainly possible - and I'm not doubting that it does happen, as the data has made that abundantly clear, but it certainly seems to be very infrequent. Hopefully that remains to be the case!
StandUpforAmerica
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Not quite the same question, but I'm guessing it has the same answer... the CDC doesn't want to know.

traxter
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StandUpforAmerica said:

Not quite the same question, but I'm guessing it has the same answer... the CDC doesn't want to know.


I'm curious how the CDC is suppose to track that.

Just like vaccinated people, people who are recovered and re-infected are less likely to have significant symptoms (if any), are going to have a shorter duration of illness, have lower viral loads (less transmissable), and are less likely to seek testing. A good chunk, if not most, people have no idea where they got COVID from in the first place. How do you track if you got it from someone who recovered from COVID?

I think that tweeter is trying to sensationalize something as a CDC conspiracy, when it's simply something difficult to track on a national level. Remember, the CDC has to rely on reporting of data and contact tracing from county public health offices around the country.
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Local public health offices would be the best bet to get this information. Don't know for sure about how they will be able to tell you if they transmit it to someone else as contact tracing isn't really much of a thing anymore.
Capitol Ag
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I'll admit, the lack of any acknowledgement regarding natural immunity is very telling about things. I'd take their messaging more seriously if they CDC/Gov't would look at all angles and not just only have a singular goal in mind of vaccinating everyone.
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