Information about re-infection risk

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BusterAg
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The data out there is pretty difficult to come by.

I am interested in any data or anecdotes of:

1) Someone who was infected by COVID, and recovered without hospitalization; and
2) Was later re-infected and hospitalized.

I would assume that such cases are rare, but interested if anyone has any information either way about this.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser
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Been trying find the same for weeks on point 2...specifically with no underlying conditions, generally healthy people.
Varmintcong50
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My wife isn't hospitalized, but she just got it for the second time, and this time is much sicker than the first.

First infection was late December and she received mRNA vaccine when first available to teachers in Texas.
TarponChaser
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https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/why-covid-19-vaccines-should-not-be-required-for-all-americans

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The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.
DadHammer
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Was the December infection verified?
CDub06
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My wife lost a friend after her second infection. The first bout also hit her pretty hard. She's an outlier though and had severe auto-immune disorders and was chronically ill.
PatAg
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TarponChaser said:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/why-covid-19-vaccines-should-not-be-required-for-all-americans

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The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.

Having read that article, that is not really a very sound analysis presented.
jopatura
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I have a friend in healthcare that got verified COVID back in Summer 2020, bad but did not require hospitalization. Got vaccinated in early 2021 (second dose by early Feb) and the first shot laid her out for a few days. Got it again about a month ago and was hospitalized for a few days with oxygen. Never went on a ventilator.

Mid 30's, under 30 BMI but could be skinnier, no history of hypertension or diabetes. Hispanic female.
ttha_aggie_09
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Tested positive and was mildly symptomatic in March. Wife was similar and our kids were asymptomatic. We have not been vaccinated and I don't plan to do so unless the data starts telling me otherwise.

Outside of TexAgs, I have never heard of anyone testing positive twice that was verified via test (both times) and symptomatic. Everyone that I know that "had it twice" was sick and/or had a negative flu test in fall 2019 or just before march of 2020 and proclaim they had Covid,

Nothing I have seen, heard or read gives the impression that the odds of reinfection are statistically significant, but I continue to monitor this board in case that changes.

beerad12man
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Obviously this thread shows it's possible. but according to the limited data I can see on it, it seems it's incredibly rare, other than the most at risk groups who should probably get another booster.

I've said for a while, and still firmly believe it. Natural immunity will be a big part of the real winner here. If vaccinations can help reduce deaths for many who then become naturally immune later, even better. But I bet once we have 60-70% of the population having had this thing at least once, and can fight if off better the 2nd time, along with 60-70% vaccinations, that's when the waves get down to next to nothing. I bet we are around 40-45% of people having had it. With Delta, it might be even higher now in areas like Texas or Florida. Maybe 40-50% natural immunity and 70-75% vaccinations would do it, too. I don't know. Somehow you need to combing to having about 80+% of the population immune from going to the hospital to prevent this, IMHO.

On the other hand, I guess hundreds of people read a thread like this, so finding 3-4 examples of it happening shouldn't be too shocking. But I always find it amazing how many statistical outliers you read about on this board, or when you go to twitter, that I never hear about in real life, or find real world data that it's common at all. And I/we have most definitely not tried to avoid covid in my friends or family. I know of maybe 15 people, if you include work so not even friends, who have verified that they have tested positive for it. No one was worse than the flu. Not a single 2nd case. Only one minor case post vaccination. Not a single hospitalization in people I actually know (I know of 3 friends of a friend of a friend, that I never actually met who died. But that's it)
TarponChaser
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jopatura said:

I have a friend in healthcare that got verified COVID back in Summer 2020, bad but did not require hospitalization. Got vaccinated in early 2021 (second dose by early Feb) and the first shot laid her out for a few days. Got it again about a month ago and was hospitalized for a few days with oxygen. Never went on a ventilator.

Mid 30's, under 30 BMI but could be skinnier, no history of hypertension or diabetes. Hispanic female.

That's odd.

Not saying she's immune-suppressed in any sort of clinical way but maybe she's one of those germaphobe types who never builds up immunity to anything because she's constantly slathering herself with hand sanitizer and the like?
Varmintcong50
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It was
FlyRod
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Couple studies here. Seems like the risk is pretty low.


https://medicine.missouri.edu/news/study-finds-covid-19-reinfection-rate-less-1-those-severe-illness

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/04/previous-covid-19-may-cut-risk-reinfection-84
TelcoAg
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Anecdotal, but yes, this happened to my neighbor recently. He (and wife and one kid) caught it back in November of 2020, was able to recover at home. He just caught it again 3 weeks ago on a trip to Disney and had to be admitted for 3 days. His wife also caught it again and his other two kids got it this time, but none needed hospitalization.
TarponChaser
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PatAg said:

TarponChaser said:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/why-covid-19-vaccines-should-not-be-required-for-all-americans

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The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.

Having read that article, that is not really a very sound analysis presented.

Yeah, sure. Because natural immunity showing stronger protection by a factor of almost 7 isn't solid reasoning.
PatAg
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TarponChaser said:

PatAg said:

TarponChaser said:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/why-covid-19-vaccines-should-not-be-required-for-all-americans

Quote:

The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.

Having read that article, that is not really a very sound analysis presented.

Yeah, sure. Because natural immunity showing stronger protection by a factor of almost 7 isn't solid reasoning.
There are too many other variables at play to come to the conclusion that its vaccine vs natural immunity. Bout as simple an example of correlation not implying causation as you can get.
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