This thread confuses me. Aren't most of the positives amongst the vaccinated at this point?

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This thread confuses me. Aren't most of the positives amongst the vaccinated at this point?

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I have no clue, but neither do the scientists

I think what is happening in many of these cases are you have viral particles in your nose/saliva but aren't "sick" or really infected or infectious. RSV is notorious for doing this as you can isolate viral particles via PCR for 4-6 weeks after the kids recover but they don't seem to spread it.

I don't have data or a good study proving this however.

I thought Reveille explained it well in his latest post (stickied at top). At least it helped me finally understand this.

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Why are so many vaccinated people testing positive?

Because that is how vaccines work. It does not create some imaginary force field around your body that prevents the virus from ever entering. The virus still enters your body but your immune system recognizes it and destroys it before you get deathly ill. Vaccinated people kill the virus off faster so rarely get sick or deathly ill. Most have only minor or no symptoms.

We only know they are positive because we are testing too much. For instance a vaccinated patient needed a hip replacement and they required a Covid test prior to surgery. He tested positive and called my office freaking out thinking he was going to die. I asked him "Do you feel sick at all?" He answered "No"! So I said then stop worrying about it! Get retested next week and when it's negative we will reschedule your surgery.

Also many families if someone tests positive they all get tested and some who are vaccinated turn positive but yet they feel fine. Their immune system will likely clear the virus very rapidly but they still have enough virus to turn the test positive because the test is extremely sensitive. It only takes any dead viral particles to turn a Covid test positive. You can be completely recovered but still test positive for a week.

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Pfizer says immunity can drop 83% within 4 months after shot.

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Drop TO 83%. I'll assume that was a typo and not an attempt to scare folks!