This was posted by someone on Premium in response to Denton Ryan canceling football for two weeks after two positive cases of coronavirus:

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For those of you who don't have a clue what this virus is about and what it does, try common sense on this. The same receptors that are in the lungs that this virus attaches to, are also in the heart, kidneys, and liver. This is why in the groupings there is a 50% + or - that have sustained some type of PERMANENT damage to the heart. I wish I had data on the liver/kidney damage but I don't. This does have its ramifications and they are still uncovering pertinent health info.

Common sense is great, but uninformed decisions are not part of common sense.

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Is there a study on this? I've had a hard time finding anything suggesting 50% of infected folks end up with "permanent" heart damage.

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This was posted by someone on Premium in response to Denton Ryan canceling football for two weeks after two positive cases of coronavirus:

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For those of you who don't have a clue what this virus is about and what it does, try common sense on this. The same receptors that are in the lungs that this virus attaches to, are also in the heart, kidneys, and liver. This is why in the groupings there is a 50% + or - that have sustained some type of PERMANENT damage to the heart. I wish I had data on the liver/kidney damage but I don't. This does have its ramifications and they are still uncovering pertinent health info.

Common sense is great, but uninformed decisions are not part of common sense.

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Is there a study on this? I've had a hard time finding anything suggesting 50% of infected folks end up with "permanent" heart damage.

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No, this is a nonsense game of telephone. Penn State's director of athletic medicine exaggerated the results of a study his friend had told him about, stating 30-35% of athletes with COVID had signs of "cardiac inflammation" on MRI. The actual study demonstrated this in only ~15%. Nevertheless, this ignores the fact that the study had no control group, only 26 athletes studied, with only 4 demonstrating cardiac inflammation of whom two had mild symptoms and two were completely asymptomatic and none of them had EKG changes or cardiac biomarker elevations, making the findings clinically irrelevant and very likely for these positive cardiac MRI scans to be false positives.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2770645

Moxley said:

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This was posted by someone on Premium in response to Denton Ryan canceling football for two weeks after two positive cases of coronavirus:

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For those of you who don't have a clue what this virus is about and what it does, try common sense on this. The same receptors that are in the lungs that this virus attaches to, are also in the heart, kidneys, and liver. This is why in the groupings there is a 50% + or - that have sustained some type of PERMANENT damage to the heart. I wish I had data on the liver/kidney damage but I don't. This does have its ramifications and they are still uncovering pertinent health info.

Common sense is great, but uninformed decisions are not part of common sense.

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Is there a study on this? I've had a hard time finding anything suggesting 50% of infected folks end up with "permanent" heart damage.

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The person that posted this never even gave a link. Just ran with that stat as fact and seemed to not realize that the study he was quoting was outed as being flawed within the medical and scientific communities. Turns out, he was in his 70's and had a heart condition and had grand kids that relied on him as had son passed away. Very sad situation and my heart and prayers go out to him and his family. But he is making decisions based of of false evidence and no doubt is letting his personal situation effect the way he views policy as a whole and that can lead to biases. He should take precautions as needed, no doubt being at risk. But it had zero to do with high school policies and he really didn't need to post. I hope he sees that the study he bases a lot of his fears on is bogus. It would help him make more informed decisions for his family...

Define permanent damage. If I break my leg and get it X-rayed a month later and it still shows a break, is that permanent damage?

COVID related cardiomyopothy is likely real, but grossly overstated in frequency. There have been some confirmed cases, and then a lot of quacks that say the damage is likely much broader than measured.

More fear mongering.

It is a risk, though.

Growing older causes permanent heart damage. Probably should stop doing that.

This is a well established possibility with every virus, yet we do not shut down schools and sports.

From a quick wiki search:

Viral cardiomyopathy occurs when viral infections cause myocarditis with a resulting thickening of the myocardium and dilation of the ventricles. These viruses include Coxsackie B and adenovirus, echoviruses, influenza H1N1, Epstein-Barr virus, rubella (German measles virus), varicella (chickenpox virus), mumps, measles, parvoviruses, yellow fever, dengue fever, polio, rabies and the viruses that cause hepatitis A and C as well as COVID-19 where it has been seen to cause this in persons otherwise thought to be "low risk" of the virus's effects.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_cardiomyopathy#cite_note-1][1][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_cardiomyopathy#cite_note-2][2][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_cardiomyopathy#cite_note-3][3][/url]

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It is rare. As in I have been doing outpatient peds since 2002 and have not seen a single case since residency at TCH. ~5,000 visits/year x 18 years and 0 cases. If that kind of risk is making you shut down you may as well never leave your room.