Dr. Brian C. Procter's rona treatment

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itsyourboypookie
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https://www.facebook.com/1223438732/posts/10223475560576850/?d=n

He claims to have treated 200 patients successfully. Any Dr.'s want to weigh in?
Keller6Ag91
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Don't know about Dr Proctor, but there are many innovative doctors who have found successful ways to combat COVID.

The key is jumping on it earlier before the COVID gets to the lungs.

And I know this sounds like heresy to many, but traditional Docs don't seem to have a good handle on treating this early. Their focus seems to be try and save the patient once it's reached critical mass of hospital entry.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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There is a problem that comes with trying to quantify the success of such treatments. With this disease, there is really no way of knowing if you are going to take a turn for the worse once you first show symptoms. So if you jump on it early with some sort of regime, is that a sign the regime is successful or are you one of the overwhelming number of people who are going to clear the virus with no complications? These can all be a case of the Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
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That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
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Or

What if it were a person that was not going to overcome it easily and started treatments early on. If the treatments did not help, wouldn't there be data on that. I have not seen doctors claiming that scenario.
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It is very hard to prove any treatment works when >99% of your patients will do well no matter what.
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KidDoc said:

It is very hard to prove any treatment works when >99% of your patients will do well no matter what.
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Keller6Ag91 said:

Don't know about Dr Proctor, but there are many innovative doctors who have found successful ways to combat COVID.

The key is jumping on it earlier before the COVID gets to the lungs.

And I know this sounds like heresy to many, but traditional Docs don't seem to have a good handle on treating this early. Their focus seems to be try and save the patient once it's reached critical mass of hospital entry.
So, which one are you - the innovative doctor or traditional doctor?
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Very nice service that he has the supplements ready to go next door. How convenient is that...
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KidDoc said:

It is very hard to prove any treatment works when >99% of your patients will do well no matter what.


This is what sunk hcq. There was early on a mindset that it had a 10% ifr and china was hiding something. So something that promised 1% ifr was great, right?
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Old RV Ag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Don't know about Dr Proctor, but there are many innovative doctors who have found successful ways to combat COVID.

The key is jumping on it earlier before the COVID gets to the lungs.

And I know this sounds like heresy to many, but traditional Docs don't seem to have a good handle on treating this early. Their focus seems to be try and save the patient once it's reached critical mass of hospital entry.
So, which one are you - the innovative doctor or traditional doctor?


Neither. Just an A&M grad with a Master'd degree who knows how to think critically. And I've had COVID and a dozen or so family members and friends who got it. Personal experience count for anything, my fellow former RV?
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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KidDoc said:

It is very hard to prove any treatment works when >99% of your patients will do well no matter what.
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but the guy who treated me treated a women with 2 active cancers with COVID successfully. He's also helped another women with Stage 4 liver cancer survive 4 years thus far.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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itsyourboypookie said:

https://www.facebook.com/1223438732/posts/10223475560576850/?d=n

He claims to have treated 200 patients successfully. Any Dr.'s want to weigh in?
I think my take away from this is mainly that I'll probably just reschedule my trip to Cozumel in September. Just checked my AAL flight direct to Coz and it is 100% full.

I wouldn't think twice about things once ON Cozumel since all I do is dive, nap, eat dinner, repeat.... and I stay at studio Air BnBs. But a 100% full flight for 2.5hrs each way, plus the airports doesn't sound like the greatest of plans at the moment.

I'd put good odds that they are correct that they caught it at the airport or on the flight. The resorts down there are being very cautious. The trip will be a lot more fun and relaxing once this is all over.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

itsyourboypookie said:

https://www.facebook.com/1223438732/posts/10223475560576850/?d=n

He claims to have treated 200 patients successfully. Any Dr.'s want to weigh in?
I think my take away from this is mainly that I'll probably just reschedule my trip to Cozumel in September. Just checked my AAL flight direct to Coz and it is 100% full.

I wouldn't think twice about things once ON Cozumel since all I do is dive, nap, eat dinner, repeat.... and I stay at studio Air BnBs. But a 100% full flight for 2.5hrs each way, plus the airports doesn't sound like the greatest of plans at the moment.

I'd put good odds that they are correct that they caught it at the airport or on the flight. The resorts down there are being very cautious. The trip will be a lot more fun and relaxing once this is all over.
Just get an N95 and consider some form of eye protection. If docs and nurses can treat symptomatic COVID patients all day and not get it then a flight is fine with the right PPE.

And when do you believe it will be "all over"? IMO each person has their own tolerance to how long life can be put off, especially where there really is no way to predict when this will be all over.

edit: grammar fail
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I get it. But I can go diving lots of times. How relaxing is a vacation going to be if I have to go through all of those hoops, stress about it on the airplane and airport?

I'm 100% for mask usage..... but is a trip to Cozumel going to be really relaxing wearing one all over the island when not diving?

The one BEST thing about the trip would be that my dive shop is limiting their boat capacity to 4 divers instead of 8. 4 divers and a DM would be pretty amazing.

Edit - Not going to Cozumel in Sept isn't really "putting life off". There are other things one can do to enjoy themselves.
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Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
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FYI ya'll. Any inhaled steroid, including the LABA/ICSs (advair, symbicort, BREO etc) will suffice as a surrogate for budesonide.
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I imagine the AirDuo generic version works in the same way?
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any inhaled steroid (ICS) including generics like Air duo, wixela .
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murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
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Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name


Thanks for the information. The mother of a neighbor of mine has stage 4 cancer and they are looking for alternative treatments at this point.
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murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name


Thanks for the information. The mother of a neighbor of mine has stage 4 cancer and they are looking for alternative treatments at this point.
GOD's blessing to your neighbor's mother in that fight.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
Is that like a functional alcoholic?

And let me get this right:

1) you've had Covid so you know more than doctors? Guess only someone who's had the illness can treat an illness
2) early detection and treatment is very helpful! Sliced bread, eh.
3) it's all about the immune system? Wow, never knew one's immune system is important

Let me finish with that even though you proclaim you and your wife have fantastic immune systems and are in perfect health, I'd wager you both have some underlying condition(s) to varying degrees.

Cemeteries are filled with people who's loved ones stood over their grave at the service crying and saying "but he/she was in such great health"

Remember Rodney Thomas?
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jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
Is that like a functional alcoholic?

And let me get this right:

1) you've had Covid so you know more than doctors? Guess only someone who's had the illness can treat an illness
2) early detection and treatment is very helpful! Sliced bread, eh.
3) it's all about the immune system? Wow, never knew one's immune system is important

Let me finish with that even though you proclaim you and your wife have fantastic immune systems and are in perfect health, I'd wager you both have some underlying condition(s) to varying degrees.

Cemeteries are filled with people who's loved ones stood over their grave at the service crying and saying "but he/she was in such great health"

Remember Rodney Thomas?
jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Keller6Ag91 said:

jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
Is that like a functional alcoholic?

And let me get this right:

1) you've had Covid so you know more than doctors? Guess only someone who's had the illness can treat an illness
2) early detection and treatment is very helpful! Sliced bread, eh.
3) it's all about the immune system? Wow, never knew one's immune system is important

Let me finish with that even though you proclaim you and your wife have fantastic immune systems and are in perfect health, I'd wager you both have some underlying condition(s) to varying degrees.

Cemeteries are filled with people who's loved ones stood over their grave at the service crying and saying "but he/she was in such great health"

Remember Rodney Thomas?
jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Thanks for the very clear statement that your guy who did your treatments is not an MD. You've also been very clear that this non MD has treated you with an IV containing an antibiotic (Rx required) as well as budesonide (Rx required). Also, you've said he's done this for over 200 others without any hospitalizations (as he can't obviously have admission capabilities, it's no surprise he's got none he's admitted). Find it interesting he's treating cancer patients as you've claimed (with Rx drugs?). Is this what the NP wife is for (i.e., Rx's)? This all doesn't add up and needs to be looked into. Thanks for the information and clear descriptions.
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jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:



jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Thanks for the very clear statement that your guy who did your treatments is not an MD. You've also been very clear that this non MD has treated you with an IV containing an antibiotic (Rx required) as well as budesonide (Rx required). Also, you've said he's done this for over 200 others without any hospitalizations (as he can't obviously have admission capabilities, it's no surprise he's got none he's admitted). Find it interesting he's treating cancer patients as you've claimed (with Rx drugs?). Is this what the NP wife is for (i.e., Rx's)? This all doesn't add up and needs to be looked into. Thanks for the information and clear descriptions.
Jwood - you seem quite agitated by these success stories. Is there something you need to get off your chest?
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aggiebrad94 said:

jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:



jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Thanks for the very clear statement that your guy who did your treatments is not an MD. You've also been very clear that this non MD has treated you with an IV containing an antibiotic (Rx required) as well as budesonide (Rx required). Also, you've said he's done this for over 200 others without any hospitalizations (as he can't obviously have admission capabilities, it's no surprise he's got none he's admitted). Find it interesting he's treating cancer patients as you've claimed (with Rx drugs?). Is this what the NP wife is for (i.e., Rx's)? This all doesn't add up and needs to be looked into. Thanks for the information and clear descriptions.
Jwood - you seem quite agitated by these success stories. Is there something you need to get off your chest?
No, I love success stories and I embrace alternative therapies and treatments. What is disconcerting is that this sounds like snake oil selling for a disease that as KidDoc said 99% will recover without any real intervention needed. And these people run the risk of doing more harm than good without proper knowledge of drug side effects, drug interactions, etc.
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jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
Is that like a functional alcoholic?

And let me get this right:

1) you've had Covid so you know more than doctors? Guess only someone who's had the illness can treat an illness
2) early detection and treatment is very helpful! Sliced bread, eh.
3) it's all about the immune system? Wow, never knew one's immune system is important

Let me finish with that even though you proclaim you and your wife have fantastic immune systems and are in perfect health, I'd wager you both have some underlying condition(s) to varying degrees.

Cemeteries are filled with people who's loved ones stood over their grave at the service crying and saying "but he/she was in such great health"

Remember Rodney Thomas?
jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Thanks for the very clear statement that your guy who did your treatments is not an MD. You've also been very clear that this non MD has treated you with an IV containing an antibiotic (Rx required) as well as budesonide (Rx required). Also, you've said he's done this for over 200 others without any hospitalizations (as he can't obviously have admission capabilities, it's no surprise he's got none he's admitted). Find it interesting he's treating cancer patients as you've claimed (with Rx drugs?). Is this what the NP wife is for (i.e., Rx's)? This all doesn't add up and needs to be looked into. Thanks for the information and clear descriptions.
The IV was Vitamins only. I misspoke above as my wife corrected me. He gave me a shot as well to "clear out the waste"-I assumed it was an antibiotic. After his NP wife checked my lungs, she then wrote a prescription for Pulmicort as a preventative for the lungs. Did someone put a stick in your rear-end? Is this truly "you looking out for the little guy" or an expression of jealousy that you aren't treating COVID as well as this guy?
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Keller6Ag91 said:

jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

jwoodmd said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

murphyag said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Jebber said:

That's what I have heard repeatedly. The sooner you start treatment the better.
I'm a total believer in it. I waited as well (solely because my symptoms were so mild and my tests took 8 days to get the results). Fever came back about Day 9 with an O2 drop. But once I did the treatment (IV immune system boost contain heavy Vitamin C with other vitamins and an antibiotic) followed by "Covid Silver Bullet" of budesonide, I was back to normal in 4-5 days.


Would you mind posting the contact information for your doctor?
Tried to PM you. I don't believe my guy is an actual MD. He's a functional medicine guy and his wife is a nurse practitioner focused on Wellness. They have offices in Southlake, TX and Frisco, TX and travel between them during the week. They're call Equilibrium Wellness. Jason Leochner is the guy's name
Is that like a functional alcoholic?

And let me get this right:

1) you've had Covid so you know more than doctors? Guess only someone who's had the illness can treat an illness
2) early detection and treatment is very helpful! Sliced bread, eh.
3) it's all about the immune system? Wow, never knew one's immune system is important

Let me finish with that even though you proclaim you and your wife have fantastic immune systems and are in perfect health, I'd wager you both have some underlying condition(s) to varying degrees.

Cemeteries are filled with people who's loved ones stood over their grave at the service crying and saying "but he/she was in such great health"

Remember Rodney Thomas?
jwoodmd, I assumed at least 1 smart ass would come to the forefront to ridicule this. Congratulations.

Let's start from the beginning. There are plenty of MD's who are innovating and deploying early treatment options to save people, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from them. My guy, while not an MD, is deploying functional medicine (attack the core of the problem) vs traditional medicine (treating the symptoms) and it worked beautifully for me, as he's done for more than 200 COVID patients (including several with known comorbidities - 0 hospitalizations). I know 2 other MD's in the DFW area who were deploying a Hydroxychrloroquine/Artithromicin (sp?)/Zinc cocktail to more than 1000 COVID adults with 100% success.

If you read my personal story about my father, his traditional med doctor of 20+ years gave him an antibiotic and essentially told him to "ride it out". That lack of treatment got him admitted to UT Southwestern when his fever pitched and O2 levels dropped off about Day 10. Then it was about "aggressively treating the symptoms with more antibiotics followed by Remdesivir". I'd hope you'd agree that on any virus, the overall virility of an individual's immune system is primary reason ANY virus gets beat or wins.

And you're right, maybe I do have underlying conditions I'm unaware of. Assuming so, the functional medicine steps worked beautifully.

Next.
Thanks for the very clear statement that your guy who did your treatments is not an MD. You've also been very clear that this non MD has treated you with an IV containing an antibiotic (Rx required) as well as budesonide (Rx required). Also, you've said he's done this for over 200 others without any hospitalizations (as he can't obviously have admission capabilities, it's no surprise he's got none he's admitted). Find it interesting he's treating cancer patients as you've claimed (with Rx drugs?). Is this what the NP wife is for (i.e., Rx's)? This all doesn't add up and needs to be looked into. Thanks for the information and clear descriptions.
The IV was Vitamins only. He gave me a shot as well to "clear out the waste"-I assumed it was an antibiotic. After his NP wife checked my lungs, she then wrote a prescription for Pulmicort as a preventative for the lungs. Did someone put a stick in your rear-end? Is this truly "you looking out for the little guy" or an expression of jealousy that you aren't treating COVID as well as this guy?
This gets even more ridiculous. Vitamins only. You "assumed" the shot was an antibiotic to clear out the waste (wonder what insurance billing code that goes under); before you said the "antibiotic" was in the IV. Or, was this all a cash transaction?

No stick in my rear-end. Just calling a bull**** story bull*****

Oh, no jealousy regarding Covid treatment. I'm a surgeon. And if another doctor finds a better treatment or procedure I'll be the first to use, assuming it passes muster.
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Functional medicine? Geez.
Bluecat_Aggie94
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Most people don't die, so unless you are treating literally 1000's of patients, odds are most doctors are seeing a "100% recover rate."

Laughable.
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

Most people don't die, so unless you are treating literally 1000's of patients, odds are most doctors are seeing a "100% recover rate."

Laughable.
Pretty much exactly why "Snake Oil" worked so "well?
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

Most people don't die, so unless you are treating literally 1000's of patients, odds are most doctors are seeing a "100% recover rate."

Laughable.
Pretty much exactly why "Snake Oil" worked so "well?
Doubt all you want folks. Odds are I was going to be just fine regardless, but my symptoms slowed/stopped and recovery accelerated once I began the Immune System boosting process with the budensonide.

And as I mentioned above, he kept a women with 2 active cancers with COVID out of the hospital and helped her recover from COVID.

I should have know wading into the functional medicine arena would draw some ire. I've been a traditional medicine guy for 45 of my 50 years until I've been introduced to some "functional" medicine concepts (like NOT jumping immediately to a Statin drug to fix a problem like cholesterol or NOT jumping to a lifetime drug regimen for a 16 years old who's thyroid was slow/not working). What I've seen works.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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