https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/coronavirus-traces-lingered-in-vacated-cruise-cabins-for-17-daysQuote:
Traces of new coronavirus were found on surfaces in cruise-ship cabins for as many as 17 days after passengers left, researchers said, though it wasn't possible to determine whether they caused any infections.
Researchers looked at the rooms of infected passengers aboard the Diamond Princess, both those who showed symptoms and those who didn't, according to a study Monday in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
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The latest study looked at uncleaned rooms, but other research has found that cleaning the rooms of Covid-19 patients was highly effective at killing the virus.
BDub3 said:
The real question is how long the virus can live on a surface and still infect someone. Just because one cell out of a billion is still living after 17 days doesn't mean it can infect someone. This is sensationalist journalism that just incites fear.
FWIW, the journalist didn't use the word "viable." That was the TexAgs poster.BDub3 said:
The real question is how long the virus can live on a surface and still infect someone. Just because one cell out of a billion is still living after 17 days doesn't mean it can infect someone. This is sensationalist journalism that just incites fear.
True, plus the media is filled with credentialed, but totally uneducated, ignorant and shockingly low IQ individuals. Add in that they live inside a self-reinforcing echo chamber and it's amazing we actually get as much information as we do.Moxley said:
This virus would be such a great time for the responsible media to educate people on science and facts. Unfortunately it's so much easier to get clicks with crap like this.
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CNBC has been putting putting out click bait, doomsday headlines for weeks.
I wouldn't really call it an echo chamber when basically no one else picked up the story.PPlayboy87 said:True, plus the media is filled with credentialed, but totally uneducated, ignorant and shockingly low IQ individuals. Add in that they live inside a self-reinforcing echo chamber and it's amazing we actually get as much information as we do.Moxley said:
This virus would be such a great time for the responsible media to educate people on science and facts. Unfortunately it's so much easier to get clicks with crap like this.
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Unless they propagated the virus in cells, and showed that it can replicate after that long a period, they can't comment about 'survival' of the virus. If they just swabbed surfaces and did RT-PCR, all that proves is that viral RNA can hang around for a long time.
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In terms of half-life, the research team found that it takes about 66 minutes for half the virus particles to lose function if they are in an aerosol droplet. That means that after another hour and six minutes, three quarters of the virus particles will be essentially inactivated but 25% will still be viable. The amount of viable virus at the end of the third hour will be down to 12.5%, according to the research led by Neeltje van Doremalen of the NIAID's Montana facility at Rocky Mountain Laboratories.
On stainless steel, it takes 5 hours 38 minutes for half of the virus particles to become inactive. On plastic, the half-life is 6 hours 49 minutes, researchers found.
On cardboard, the half-life was about three and a half hours, but the researchers said there was a lot of variability in those results "so we advise caution" interpreting that number.
The shortest survival time was on copper, where half the virus became inactivated within 46 minutes.
Spreading fear is very effective for improving compliance with the Shelter in Place ordinances that are spreading across the country. Part of me believes that this is intended for just that, particularly when certain highly visible leaders outwardly agree with some of the sensational stories that continue to be circulated. If it works, then great, we'll see. But it's going to be difficult to put the breaks on this stuff and return to normalcy for quite awhile.BDub3 said:
The real question is how long the virus can live on a surface and still infect someone. Just because one cell out of a billion is still living after 17 days doesn't mean it can infect someone. This is sensationalist journalism that just incites fear.
oldschoolcat said:
Who knew that Texags would be my primary source of accurate info during a global pandemic?
*MRSA, as in methicillin resistant S. aureus. And many people are colonized with MRSA without knowing it. Just touching it is not going to cause an infection unless you have an open wound that you are touching it with.Gunny456 said:
. Staphylococcus Aureus or known as MERSA can stay on surfaces for weeks and if you should touch it with your finger or hand and/or it gets moisture it can infect. My sister found that out the hard way as a nurse.
