SEC and schedule

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Gyles Marrett
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As close as these games have been Sankey did one hell of a HUGE favor to Schloss putting this first conference matchup between us and Texas in Austin. Hard to say home field hasn't mattered in 1 run games. I also doubt Assparino gets mouthy like that at blue bell.

I'm sure the conference would say hey you got them at home in football but this was a pretty unique situation with the coaching changes. Credit to the whorns for taking advantage of the schedule they've been given in both football and baseball but even a Longhorn would have to admit this series not being in CS was a huge factor, and if they don't theyre an ignorant liar.
jkag89
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IMO 18-2 is more than just taking advantage of the schedule given. There are no easy SEC schedules. On the other hand, some are more difficult than others and the league certainly didn't do the Aggies any favors with our schedule this season. Keep in mind that t.u. and LSU are our two matched rivals, hence we''ll have this built in challenge every season (wouldn't want it any other way) while pig gets Mizzou.
kevmiller
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lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.
zafzo
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kevmiller said:

lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.


That's pretty standard for TexAgs though.
twk
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They did draw a favorable schedule in football and baseball, but, it doesn't have anything to do with Schloss. The basic schedule set up (which teams we would play and where) was set up last spring, before Schloss made the move.
Joes
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kevmiller said:

lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.
Exactly like in football. For years it was "Just wait until Texas is in the SEC, they won't be able to handle the physicality." And then immediately after the game this year Elko said ""Hat off to (Texas) because they physically annihilated us."

It's like you couldn't try to write better faceplants on purpose than Aggie self-inflicted ones.

Year after year, decade after decade. The annual "We're 7-1 and near the top of the conference, why isn't anyone talking about us more nationally?" in football every year right before the nosedive is always a fun classic.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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kevmiller said:

lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.


two things can be true at the same time.

texas can perform at a high level which they have in both football and baseball and they can also be rewarded with the easiest sec schedule of any team at the same time.

OBJTEX
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Gyles Marrett said:

As close as these games have been Sankey did one hell of a HUGE favor to Schloss putting this first conference matchup between us and Texas in Austin. Hard to say home field hasn't mattered in 1 run games. I also doubt Assparino gets mouthy like that at blue bell.

I'm sure the conference would say hey you got them at home in football but this was a pretty unique situation with the coaching changes. Credit to the whorns for taking advantage of the schedule they've been given in both football and baseball but even a Longhorn would have to admit this series not being in CS was a huge factor, and if they don't theyre an ignorant liar.


And we got football at home. Stuff evens out. Let it go.
OBJTEX
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Joes said:

kevmiller said:

lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.
Exactly like in football. For years it was "Just wait until Texas is in the SEC, they won't be able to handle the physicality." And then immediately after the game this year Elko said ""Hat off to (Texas) because they physically annihilated us."

It's like you couldn't try to write better faceplants on purpose than Aggie self-inflicted ones.

Year after year, decade after decade. The annual "We're 7-1 and near the top of the conference, why isn't anyone talking about us more nationally?" in football every year right before the nosedive is always a fun classic.


Truth hurts.

20ag07
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Do you *really* believe anyone in the SEC office sits around scheduling baseball, keeping track of the drama between 16 teams?

We got the first football game. We got the first basketball game. They got the baseball series. And will have to come here to play baseball next year.

That's it. Take off the tin foil hat.
OBJTEX
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20ag07 said:

Do you *really* believe anyone in the SEC office sits around scheduling baseball, keeping track of the drama between 16 teams?

We got the first football game. We got the first basketball game. They got the baseball series. And will have to come here to play baseball next year.

That's it. Take off the tin foil hat.



Reason has no place here. Tin foil is distributed in rolls. And our pravda media schills produce it by the gross.

2004FIGHTINTXAG
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Texas would not have been able to handle the SEC in prior years. They were terrible to mediocre in football (lost to Maryland twice, lost to Kansas, etc…). Saban was crushing everyone in the SEC with Georgia rising and LSU having its golden year plus Daniel's year. I didi't follow their regular season baseball, but I don't think they were crushing the Big 12.

Texas and the SEC are not the same as prior years.
Sterling82
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In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.
OBJTEX
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2004FIGHTINTXAG said:

Texas would not have been able to handle the SEC in prior years. They were terrible to mediocre in football (lost to Maryland twice, lost to Kansas, etc…). Saban was crushing everyone in the SEC with Georgia rising and LSU having its golden year plus Daniel's year. I didi't follow their regular season baseball, but I don't think they were crushing the Big 12.

Texas and the SEC are not the same as prior years.


This also has reason and logic. Am i living in parallel universe?

Yes, the timing of the move is the reason they have had such a nice start.

3 years ago, they are 2 win team in SEC. Conference is about the same. They are much better.

Sark will leave for NFL after Arch leaves. And then they coild circle the drain again. Nothing lasts forever.
2004FIGHTINTXAG
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Sterling82 said:

In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.


100%
houstonaggie76
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We got them at Kyle Field and lost by 10

We played a runner game in Basketball on a neutral court at lost to them despite having a better team.

Stop the excuses.
houstonaggie76
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Sterling82 said:

In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.



You make it sound so easy. We dumped how much into football and still have never made a playoff. Never even played for an SEC Championship.
Holik
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The difference is NIL. For many years t.u. would not have been able to compete in the SEC. They fell behind while wallowing in the Big 12. They wouldn't have wanted to join the SEC back then. NIL changed all of that. Once they were able to openly buy top talent, they decided it was time to join the SEC. They waiting until it was convenient for them and then worked out the deal with Sankey. People weren't wrong at the time to say the sips couldn't compete in the SEC, but now they can pay more than most schools to get the players they need to compete.
LB12Diamond
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We messed up requesting the first football game.

We should have requested the first baseball series!
Wabs
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Holik said:

The difference is NIL. For many years t.u. would not have been able to compete in the SEC. They fell behind while wallowing in the Big 12. They wouldn't have wanted to join the SEC back then. NIL changed all of that. Once they were able to openly buy top talent, they decided it was time to join the SEC. They waiting until it was convenient for them and then worked out the deal with Sankey. People weren't wrong at the time to say the sips couldn't compete in the SEC, but now they can pay more than most schools to get the players they need to compete.
Correct. The sips joined the SEC when they were ready to join the SEC. And the SEC was there with open arms despite "gentlemen handshakes" that were made with A&M.
LB12Diamond
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houstonaggie76 said:

Sterling82 said:

In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.



You make it sound so easy. We dumped how much into football and still have never made a playoff. Never even played for an SEC Championship.


Politics and Covid helped with that one in 2020 of course. Or does that not help your narrative so you ignore it.

The football schedule the Horns got last year was a joke and nothing close to what we have had every year prior to last season. The schedule the Sooners got aligned with what we had all those years and you see what occurred.

Do we need to do better. Of course. But you don't need to act like there was not a lot of help for the sips this first year.
Sterling82
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houstonaggie76 said:

Sterling82 said:

In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.



You make it sound so easy. We dumped how much into football and still have never made a playoff. Never even played for an SEC Championship.

I think the dynamics were entirely different. We were out front with NIL but appeared to be more interested in winning signing day than winning games with how those dollars were allocated. Our class wasn't balanced and had academic and character risks. The sips were the first that I recall to have a defined NIL for offensive line which cost us one or two guys that subsequently became cornerstones of the sip O-Line. Sort of the same with the coaches, even though it wasn't obvious at the time. We hired a guy that had reached the pinnacle, had a dated offense and seemed to become more interested in living large with his guaranteed money than coaching. They hired a dynamic offensive coach who was hungry to restore his reputation. When they floundered on defense, they brought in Patterson to make sure that side off the ball was shored up. They were very purposeful in building a team that could win games in the SEC.

Long story short, we seem to be victimized by a mentality that if you spend a lot of money success is automatic. That clearly isn't the case.
houstonaggie76
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LB12Diamond said:

houstonaggie76 said:

Sterling82 said:

In football particularly, the team tu has now is nothing like the ones they put on the field pre-SEC. So, when the claims that they wouldn't fare well in the SEC were made, they were largely true. They were given a couple of years to ramp up and dumped all the money necessary into players and coaches to be ready for the transition. The money and future in the SEC gave them the edge they needed to get it done.



You make it sound so easy. We dumped how much into football and still have never made a playoff. Never even played for an SEC Championship.


Politics and Covid helped with that one in 2020 of course. Or does that not help your narrative so you ignore it.

The football schedule the Horns got last year was a joke and nothing close to what we have had every year prior to last season. The schedule the Sooners got aligned with what we had all those years and you see what occurred.

Do we need to do better. Of course. But you don't need to act like there was not a lot of help for the sips this first year.

You think the SEC schedule makers know who is going to be good or not good?

And if they beat us in football, basketball, and baseball...how does the schedule even matter? This is deflection from the fact that in year 14 in the conference, we are still behind them in year 1.

This year they play @ Ohio State, @ Georgia, OU, @ Florida, and us.

All that care about is how we fare vs them. I actually would rather they play an easy schedule so we appear like a tough opponent.
LB12Diamond
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You did not address one single point I made. Just another word salad by you. Which is not surprising at all.
Bondag
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Schedule in baseball means more than football and basketball as you can get run rules to shorten games and use back end pitchers to save good arms against mediocre teams. When you play 4-5 games a week that means more than a DB getting some mop up duty.
20ag07
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And baseball matters less, in the overall scheme, than football and basketball.
TyperWoods
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Sips would never admit the game being in D*ck *****Field mattered
TexAgTrojan
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kevmiller said:

lol… for years we have talked down to Texas because we were in the SEC and they were in the big 12

Pounded our chest talking about the mighty SEC

Now Texas is here and all of a sudden … " well they got a weak schedule " lol

Alot of grasping for straws when it comes to trying to justify success on Texas part and excuses for failure on our part.
that went right over your head. Yes they got the big time teams at home and the weaker schools on the road: don't be blind
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