I would think that this is a better solution than a lawsuit.

Can we do it in a very public way?

It kind of puts the screws to the SEC leadership, but I know that at least the real UT has our backs, and probably most of the conference at this point.

It also looks less petty than a lawsuit. It is more likely to be seen as seeking forward change as opposed to just sour grapes.

Finally, it keeps tu in the news for this for a long time. We get to bring ideas for new rule changes to the next conference meeting that specifically target this kind of activity, and drag tu through the mud one more time.

Might work. Especially if the other SEC teams back the play.

But Sanky was more than willing to go behind our backs to bring cow into the conference. So don't expect action from that guy.

I think that we need to file suit and show evidence that will then force NCAA and SEC to act. I think that they would sweep it under the rug otherwise. We have media attention now, we must keep it in limelight.

If Snakey were inclined to do anything, which he isn't. It would have to wait until after July 1st or whenever the sip scum begins poisoning the SEC in earnest.

I think we just need to put our media and media connections to work exposing all the lies and deceit that took place.

A formal complaint, lawsuit, whatever is just going to end up making us look bad in the long term aka the Baylor lawsuit when we left for the SEC.

I think the court of public opinion is our best option here. Make sure no parent wants to entrust their kid to a group of selfish liars.

Minor detail….i don't believe they ate officially members of the SEC yet, so there's nothing the sec can do about it. They can't punish them for doing something as members of the big 12.

Not gonna happen, but would love to see the SEC revoke their charter and go after a different team.

Gutting a conference-mate is not the way to start a conference.

At least the other SEC schools see what we were talking about when we said we didn't want to be in a conference with them. They are a toxic neighbor at best.

Does anyone actually think that filing a grievance with the SEC is going to accomplish anything? The sips officially join in 4 days. tu is Snakey's new shiney penny. Snakey is not going to do or say anything to put a tarnish on the new penny. He's going to bury his head in the sand and continue all the pomp and circumstance with the induction of tu and Blow U meanwhile the NCAA will continue to turn a blind eye. Snakey will do everything in his power to try to turn this back on us as if we are somehow responsible. This is how this slimeeball operates

The SEC does not give one single **** about this.

IMO, the best counter offensive is through social media. Make recruiting very difficult for Schlong by bringing his character to the front and keeping it there. It's hard to commit to selfish and lying people..make his trust the issue.

An SEC leader with any moral character would have already spoken to this and what makes the SEC a great conference.

Sankey is in bed w cow.... cow addition was his major "accomplishment"


Sankey will back cow & make according fixes any way he can....

If they were indeed recruiting our players to our biggest rival in the middle of a run at the national title...that is a big story. It piggybacks on a lot of raw feelings nationwide regarding NIL and the portal. And thanks to Jim's outburst, national media is already following it.

We just need to prove it happened

Wisconsin_Ag said:

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Does anyone actually think that filing a grievance with the SEC is going to accomplish anything?

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No, nothing would happen to tu. Nothing that matters anyway. All tu has done is poach a coach, which is the exact same thing we've done a few times ourselves. The only thing slightly different is the allegation that he was recruiting for Texas from his staff players and recruits on the way out the door. Basically, the SEC poaches coaches, that's life, get over it. Just hope it turns out as well for them as Fran did for us (which is actually kind of similar).

Whatever pressure is applied must come from TAMU and former students in politics and business. Get organized and on the same page and start calling on all buddies, partners, and acquaintance, to get behind our action. Then, we reach out to other schools across D1 that do not like tu or what happened. Once there is enough widespread backing something will get accomplished.

The SEC would kick us out before anything is even remotely acknowledged as being shady.

Rumors out there to be confirmed

Moving trucks at Schloss' on Sunday
Burner phones used to contact recruits
Caun's kid telling his teammates I am moving
Can't file a complaint until at least a few of these are confirmed

You need to be specific about what you're filing a grievance over and have proof.

Announcing their opening the morning of our game is a classless thing to do, but doesn't violate any rules.

You also have to separate what is emotional anger over our rivals taking a top coach from us vs what is actually actionable deeds/actions.

If you just file over being upset about the situation, or because they took our coach and the timing sucks, it's just going to look stupid.

If you want to file, you need to have stone cold proof of things like them recruiting kids to tu while still employed by A&M. Them spending time while on our payroll actively doing things to benefit tu, tu's recruiting, etc. Them spending money/time from A&M putting together this bogus recruiting weekend.

If you have that stuff, go for it - and blow it up on media outlets.

Otherwise, it's just comes off as sour grapes and crying because they were especially classless about taking our coach. Sucks, but certainly not something anyone is going to punish.

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We get to bring ideas for new rule changes to the next conference meeting that specifically target this kind of activity

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This is specifically the part where I think you probably need to be laser focused.

What specific "activity" are we accusing them of? To my knowledge, we KNOW of some stuff that is low class, but I don't think we've heard more than rumors/smoke about anything that is actually over the line.

JDCAG (NOT Colin) said:

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BusterAg said:

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We get to bring ideas for new rule changes to the next conference meeting that specifically target this kind of activity

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This is specifically the part where I think you probably need to be laser focused.

What specific "activity" are we accusing them of? To my knowledge, we KNOW of some stuff that is low class, but I don't think we've heard more than rumors/smoke about anything that is actually over the line.

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Well, TA writers suggesting they have smoking gun, sounds like more than hurt feelings.

If any of these things happened… everything needs to be made public. Pay whatever needs to be paid to make it happen. I want to see interviews with the Diamond Darling, swinger interviews, text messages, interviews with anyone with relevant damning information on Scholss.

Texas isn't in the SEC until Monday. Sankey has no ability to punish them for things they do before they are members (not that he would anyway).

Yeah, if there is proof of these misgivings, it's a totally different ball of wax.

I just think alot of people are ready to start filing lawsuits, grievances, etc. based purely on things that are ****ty, but not against the rules. Proof would be a game changer, obviously.

I would focus on A&M creating a leadership structure both in the school and in the TMF that effectively prevents this from happening. Our own fans were arguing we shouldn't pay Schloss more and Schloss shouldn't press too hard for the expansion or rebuild he wanted. That and Trev's effort to rollback expenses are all causes of him leaving.

We like to virtue signal on keeping people in their place because that's military hierarchy thinking. Schloss was an innovator and creating a path to a juggernaut. Pat Henry was another one and instead of looking how to continue his juggernaut some fans don't feel he's delivered much lately so maybe it's time to go.

Blair also was treated to the same thinking. This isn't simple and program builders are rare not common. We like to get angry but we don't like to get serious.


Don't get mad get strategic.

I 100% believe if left to the NCAA or SEC that this would go no where. Just see LSU. If we feel we have the proof, I would go straight lawsuit and drag the NCAA into it. We got a penalty for Jimbo saying "Hello" to an athlete in the hallway of his school. You cannot tell me that what Schloss and co. did was not worthy of penalty. If we could get some lengthy suspensions or penalties against tu, that would at least slow down the momentum they will get from this hire.

If recruits and players have proof of these coaches texting from burners talking about how they should consider tu I dont know how that is not tampering and a breach of contract. I am not a lawyer and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn but the timeline and these texts are going cause problems if there is proof.

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The SEC would kick us out before anything is even remotely acknowledged as being shady.

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At this point, I'm fine with that. Never did, and never will want to play them again.

They are formally joining the SEC in a few days. The SEC is not going to do anything. But I doubt they are happy with how bad they have looked all over the national media just a few days prior to joining.

Just move on, this kind of stuff makes us look like a bunch of Ps.

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If you want to file, you need to have stone cold proof of things like them recruiting kids to tu while still employed by A&M. Them spending time while on our payroll actively doing things to benefit tu, tu's recruiting, etc. Them spending money/time from A&M putting together this bogus recruiting weekend.

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This. Without this...its a waste of time and makes us look stupid.

With this...it will set precedent for college athletics going forward.

Texas Yarddog said:

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Not gonna happen, but would love to see the SEC revoke their charter and go after a different team.

Gutting a conference-mate is not the way to start a conference.

At least the other SEC schools see what we were talking about when we said we didn't want to be in a conference with them. They are a toxic neighbor at best.

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It's only going to get worse, and Sankey is not going to do anything about it.

Between us and them, we know where his loyalty lies.

Again, we would be smart to get out of this conference.