Was Schloss worth it?

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NoahAg
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In the end was he worth the hire? Two WS appearances. No championship, but a close 2nd place. The program took 2 steps forward, but with the destructive wake he's left it's feeling like it will be at least 5 steps back, and will be a long rebuild.
ElephantRider
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No. Our program is now a total rebuild.
wangus12
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In hindsight, probably, but it sure doesn't feel like it right now
rgag12
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No, same results as Childress (actually less with no SEC crown), and program is in a worse place
Ag06ATX
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Not even remotely worth it. Like not in the realm of "worth it".
LB12Diamond
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Yes, my enjoyment for our team the last 3 years is not going to be lost. I'm not going to let the ending sour my memories.

He's also galvanized us the way he has left.

Need to get a solid coach and good assistants. We can recover in two years with the portal.

Saying all that. F Schloss now!
W
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time will tell

have to see what the results are in 2025 and 2026
Viper16
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Nope.....he just single-handedly destroyed the program!

FJS!
Lex Talionis.......Ordo Seclorum
dabo man
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In the years before Schloss, two wins ever in Omaha. We quadrupled that under him. Hell yes it was worth it.
Krazykat
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ElephantRider said:

No. Our program is now a total rebuild.


Yep. POS jumped ship and hit the self destruct button on the way out.
kyledr04
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Probably not, we didn't win any championships and our program is likely torpedoed. Plus gave the horns a chance to dunk on us.
Aggies2009
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It's tough.

On one hand, he did more in Omaha in 3 years than we did in our entire history.

On the other, it was done exploiting new rules that then turned around and screwed us.
SonOf_an_Ag
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Yes. Hopefully admins took notes, become better at decisions and ongoing awareness that there are sharks everywhere and need constant guard. This is a blue blood world and you have to fight everyday to not let a few short term successes leave you feeling fat and happy
Spaceball 1
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We'd have been much better off hiring a different guy 3 years ago and be that far along with them building their program.
tyusjones21
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Absolutely not

What he has done now to our program is unacceptable. How can you let players like Ryan Targac find out via Twitter??? As a human being he is very low, no morals, cheats on wife, flirts with diamond darlings (sick in the head) you can't teach these players to grow as men.

Coaching is not just about winning games. It's about building the culture around your team and helping these guys get to the next level. Putting yourself before a team not only kills the team, but destroys any chances of winning.

^^^ this summed up, absolutely not worth it.
SonOf_an_Ag
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Aggies2009 said:

It's tough.

On one hand, he did more in Omaha in 3 years than we did in our entire history.

On the other, it was done exploiting new rules that then turned around and screwed us.

Yep. And now that the blue bloods have the new rules set, and NIL programs well funded and operational, it is going to be hard to keep up.

There are only so many truly great "arms" and "bats" every year available but a whole lot of money chasing them. 20+ programs can easily fund a $5M-$7M NIL check for baseball. Not as many at the $12-$15M level.

Numbers are out of my a@@ just showing a doubling factor
GymBroFisher
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Hard to think that if Sdao doesn't get hurt that we don't win it. B Mont also was big, but Kent played incredible.

Schloss gave us a look at what winning at the highest level looks like at A&M. He let the coaching world know it's possible, which will attract coaches here for awhile. Yes, it was very worth it. He did in the end leave the perception of A&M baseball in a great place for future hires, which is huge.
TheBonifaceOption
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Some folks joke that they would trade wrecking their program for a natty.

But I think they would rather be competitive every year with the chance of success than actually killing your program for a few years.
OlWhatsHisNuts
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We have as many Baseball trophies as we did when we arrived to AggieLand.
Ags77
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On the surface one could say that because we won so many games, that he left the program better than he found it.

But dig deeper and you have to say that because of the way he handled the end, he left it a lot worse. Our roster is likely to be total overhaul with less than ample time to get the portal fixes.
corybantic
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lol at our admins taking note. If there's any area we have been completely outclassed it is the running joke called "A&M Administration". These people do less with more than any Institution of higher education in the country. Can they overspend? Ask Jimbo's accountant. Can they evaluate coaches? See Fran. The Admin names change but the results don't. Expecting them to competently deal with the malignant entity 90 miles west is a fantasy.
SonOf_an_Ag
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corybantic said:

lol at our admins taking note. If there's any area we have been completely outclassed it is the running joke called "A&M Administration". These people do less with more than any Institution of higher education in the country. Can they overspend? Ask Jimbo's accountant. Can they evaluate coaches? See Fran. The Admin names change but the results don't. Expecting them to competently deal with the malignant entity 90 miles west is a fantasy.

They never have an actual thought out plan beyond, hire somebody now and let them drive the ship now. They feel they have no other responsibility than that. Just bad leadership and management with no vision beyond an initial hire or any adapting during the journey.

Funky Winkerbean
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The administration had nothing to do with this. If they knew (they did) that Schloss was a POS and wouldn't be here long term, they did the right thing and let him walk. Now they need to do a full investigation to determine if he tampered with players and the choices they will face.
tjack16
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No. We would have made it to Omaha at least once in the past 3 years if we had hired somebody else.

Unless we had beat Tennessee Monday and brought home that trophy … nothing he did was worth it.
Charlie 31
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NoahAg said:

In the end was he worth the hire? Two WS appearances. No championship, but a close 2nd place. The program took 2 steps forward, but with the destructive wake he's left it's feeling like it will be at least 5 steps back, and will be a long rebuild.
Winning in Omaha and taking us to the Men's College World Series championship finals was a pyrrhic victory for Texas A&M. It would have been better for our team to have been swept 0-2 and a barbeque so the sips hiring Schloss could have happened sooner and we could have hired a new coach and coaching staff in time to get quality transfers from the portal.
Muy
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I'd have rather lost in the regionals than allow someone to disrespect and embarrass my university like this.
OrangeAlert
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When Tennessee got Kiffined, they went through Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Jeremy Pruitt, and over a decade of complete irrelevancy before the ship got righted.
Hopefully, the Portal and NIL allows A&M to fix it much faster.
jjoemaroul
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Jeff Kent knows how to play. Wonder if he would want to coach his son?
fightintxaggie10
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Best coach we've ever had in baseball by far and showed how quickly and how good this program can be. He raised the bar and expectation. How can you not see how that helps us?
swimmerbabe11
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The amount of spite money about to be thrown in the air like the donors don't care might make this a turning point in college baseball history.
W
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keep in mind that roster turnover in college baseball is enormous now

only 4 players from A&M's 2022 team...also played on the 2024 team

so while 2025 could be a down year...a new coach can have a great roster by 2026
PeekingDuck
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Yes, it was worth it. Our program and school are in a different place now than years past. We'll be fine - give it time.
McCdrizzle
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Kent is in the portal
TheBonifaceOption
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OrangeAlert said:

When Tennessee got Kiffined, they went through Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Jeremy Pruitt, and over a decade of complete irrelevancy before the ship got righted.
Hopefully, the Portal and NIL allows A&M to fix it much faster.

CFB has a bigger team and more difficult transfer rules (during the Dooley period) than current baseball rules.

Any team can turn it around in 2 years with a decent coach and good transfers.
W
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pyrrhic is a good word choice

we'll know in a week how painful the short portal window will be
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