Got a good friend who manages one of the Aggieland Outfitter stores. She said she had over twenty texts five minutes after the Sunday game was over last week requesting maroon pinstripe jerseys. Adidas said no as in zero baseball jerseys.

Why do you turn away business?

This actually makes me mad

Maybe adidas realized how ugly they looked and aren't going to let A&M wear them anymore

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Why do you turn away business?

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To play devil's advocate, it's not always smart to do business for the sake of doing business. Adidas may have already done research that says they need to sell 10,000 units before turning a profit and the demand isn't there.

I think a European company that makes soccer clothes doesn't much care about a few complaining Aggie baseball fans. I wish it was different, but we aren't going to outsell 500K Man United jersey wearing fans.

I guess the team orders are custom, and anything beyond that is not cost feasible.

Don't get me wrong, I would love one too....provided they made it in "larger than french girlie man" size!

I actually have liked our partnership with adi. They have been good to work with apparently and have represented us well and I hope we continue that relationship going forward (and per what Looch said a month ago or so on Texags radio, we are finishing up a new deal with them). But I agree, there is zero reason to not make the actual game used jerseys that the team currently wears and other baseball gear available. I have also noticed that the current On Field regular TAM cap that is sold in stores isn't what the team is issued and this has been a problem for a number of years off and on. When the black cap was being used, adi supplied retail with a flex fit replica of the hat that wasn't even very accurate. Plus the '51 jersey and hat had to be special ordered and the first cap was another very inaccurate replica as well before AO did the special order for the actual cap.

I get that apparel providers' first responsibility is to the team that they supply. And I also understand that all the apparel providers have a separate division for retail. It's this way with all of them from what I understand, whether it's adi, Nike or UA. So there will be times that certain items will be issued to the team that retail just doesn't make available for whatever reason. But in this new deal I would LOVE for A&M to have more assurances that we fans also have as many of the exact same products available with the exact same specs as what the team is issued as is possible. There are times when it just seems like there is little to no effort on adi's end to ensure some form of continuity in place when setting up retail orders for what is issued to the teams. I cannot see why. Fix that issue and adidas is a perfect partner. It's quality is the same as Nike and UA, it's brand has really rebounded in the last 10 years market wise overall and yes, we had similar availability issues with Nike in the 90's and 00's. And early on adidas seemed to be doing a pretty good job, but that has dropped off the last few years.

I'd even go a little further to say that if it took a little extra time to be able to have the retail side of adi supply stores with products with the exact same specs as what the teams have on field, I'd be ok waiting. Sure, there's a time lag between team orders and production and since Retail and Team are separate divisions, the time between communication from Team to Retail and production order from Retail might have some lag time. In a 12th Man article about what it took to outfit A&M teams, it was mentioned that all orders were place about a year to a year and a half before the season that the ordered apparel will actually be used in. I figure Retail would also need time to know what was actually ordered so they can arrange the production and shipments to stores/distributors etc. It would be great if the powers that be could figure out a way to streamline this process somehow.

I think they look great... as do most people who are in 203 rn. Everyone talking about how much they love them today.

I like them but hell they are not even the right maroon. Doesn't even match the shade of maroon our helmets are.

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I think they look great... as do most people who are in 203 rn. Everyone talking about how much they love them today.

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They actually aren't terrible. They're just different and will probably grow on many people including myself. The biggest concern to me is that they feel like we're just trying to copy Vandy and not using our own classic branding (Texas Aggies).

But like the blacks from 24-0, they'll be popular if we win in them.

Here is an example of how they get some things wrong in retail vs what is issued on field to teams:

The team cap:

Notice most of the caps actually have a piping on each side of the front of the crown and the the logo is smaller and while beveled, the beveling "line" is a silver/gray/pewter color, not maroon.

the On Field TAM cap retail received:



Its a great hat. I bought it and wear it a lot. But it isn't the same. Bigger logo, maroon bevel. No pipping (that I don't care about but just interesting and shows they each were produced under different specs). SO it's a first world problem no doubt. But why not at least have some form of consistency? I am a marketing guy. Brand consistency is very important so if you have what is sold as the On Field cap, have the same damn cap that is actually issued on field, lol!

Love the reverse pinstripes

On TV those pinstripes look more purple than maroon. Are they maroon in real life?

They are maroon but there needs to be fewer stripes

I heard on the radio that they would have some at the shop at Olsen ... haven't found any yet :/

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But in this new deal I would LOVE for A&M to have more assurances that we fans also have as many of the exact same products available with the exact same specs as what the team is issued as is possible. There are times when it just seems like there is little to no effort on adi's end to ensure some form of continuity in place when setting up retail orders for what is issued to the teams. I cannot see why.

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This rarely happens because there's rarely a large enough market at the price point required by the "real stuff."

You have to look to professional sports to have access to any significant level of the "real stuff", and even then, professional teams have limited issuance of "real stuff" and largely make their money on the replica versions.

I do not even care about the pinstripes one way or another. I just think all Aggie jerseys should be available to buy.

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I do not even care about the pinstripes one way or another. I just think all Aggie jerseys should be available to buy.

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Doesn't happen at the college level.

I do wish Adidas offered a few more basic options across the sports spectrum, but that's the most you could ever hope for at the college level.

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dermdoc said:

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Why do you turn away business?

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To play devil's advocate, it's not always smart to do business for the sake of doing business. Adidas may have already done research that says they need to sell 10,000 units before turning a profit and the demand isn't there.

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This. Adidas is a business. They aren't not making baseball jerseys simply because they are a European company that doesn't care about baseball, to piss us off, whatever else. If they thought they could make money on them they'd be in stores. I'm sure an evaluation was done and the quantity required to produce in order to make them somewhat affordable ($125-$150) just doesn't make sense. And not just A&M wide, all college teams wearing Adidas are probably taken into consideration.

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dermdoc said:

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I do not even care about the pinstripes one way or another. I just think all Aggie jerseys should be available to buy.

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Doesn't happen at the college level.

I do wish Adidas offered a few more basic options across the sports spectrum, but that's the most you could ever hope for at the college level.

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False. As mentioned in another thread on this subject, Nike offers authentic LSU and tu jerseys to fans, just as two examples.
It literally pisses me off that this trash ass soccer company thinks they're too good to sell baseball jerseys to Ags.

Let your AD know. Perhaps more consumer friendly options can be a bullet point in ongoing negotiations with ADIDAS.

I thought it was interesting that army has a contract with Nike after all the kneeling stuff.

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But in this new deal I would LOVE for A&M to have more assurances that we fans also have as many of the exact same products available with the exact same specs as what the team is issued as is possible. There are times when it just seems like there is little to no effort on adi's end to ensure some form of continuity in place when setting up retail orders for what is issued to the teams. I cannot see why.

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This rarely happens because there's rarely a large enough market at the price point required by the "real stuff."

You have to look to professional sports to have access to any significant level of the "real stuff", and even then, professional teams have limited issuance of "real stuff" and largely make their money on the replica versions.

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Agree. It's just one of those things that if a power that be sees this (which is doubtful) they'd work to get a few more things out there to the public. A lot of it already is honestly. It's more of a matter of know where to get it when. Since I go in a lot, I hit the stores a lot. Not everyone wants to do that so it's easy to think certain things were never available to the public when they actually were but only one store had it and it sold out pretty fast. AO for instance gets a lot of stuff in that other stores don't at random times. As in the 3rd week in September when most other stores have most of their shipments already in. For instance a gray striped adi polo a football assistant was wearing in a video Aggie Football tweeted out last week where he benched over 400lbs. That shirt was at AO in the Fall, but sold out fast.

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I thought it was interesting that army has a contract with Nike after all the kneeling stuff.

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They've had a contract with Nike for a while. A lot would go into backing out just b/c of the Kapernick crap.

When you go to the adidas site the upfront categories under the sports tab are running, soccer, outdoor, basketball and football. Baseball is listed under "other sports."

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Average Joe said:

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dermdoc said:

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Why do you turn away business?

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To play devil's advocate, it's not always smart to do business for the sake of doing business. Adidas may have already done research that says they need to sell 10,000 units before turning a profit and the demand isn't there.

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This. Adidas is a business. They aren't not making baseball jerseys simply because they are a European company that doesn't care about baseball, to piss us off, whatever else. If they thought they could make money on them they'd be in stores. I'm sure an evaluation was done and the quantity required to produce in order to make them somewhat affordable ($125-$150) just doesn't make sense. And not just A&M wide, all college teams wearing Adidas are probably taken into consideration.

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With all due respect, I just think they make so much money they do not give a sheet.

Hey Ags y'all don't get jerseys because the company that makes your team's apparel doesn't think you're worth it.

**** them

@everyone?

Look up the reasons we left Nike in the first place. Adidas has made us one of their top NCAA brands and we should be down with that.

What gets me is every Nike Baseball sponsored team they have the same field gear available to the fans. Look at LSU, tu, and so forth. You get a game jersey for $100 bucks

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When you go to the adidas site the upfront categories under the sports tab are running, soccer, outdoor, basketball and football. Baseball is listed under "other sports."

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Honestly, most of the actual equipment we use is from Easton. Just like when we had Nike we actually got equipment from Louisville Slugger (TPX). Typically a college program gets its apparel from the big shoe company but it's equipment like bats, helmets etc from one of the well established baseball equipment manufacturers like Easton or Louisville Slugger.

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waco_aggie05 said:

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I thought it was interesting that army has a contract with Nike after all the kneeling stuff.

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They've had a contract with Nike for a while. A lot would go into backing out just b/c of the Kapernick crap.

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Pretty sure trump could make it happen swiftly

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Hey Ags y'all don't get jerseys because the company that makes your team's apparel doesn't think you're worth it.

**** them

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Nike treated us the same previously...

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technoviking said:

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Hey Ags y'all don't get jerseys because the company that makes your team's apparel doesn't think you're worth it.

**** them

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Nike treated us the same previously...

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That was also pre-SEC days. They'd treat us better now

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dermdoc said:

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I do not even care about the pinstripes one way or another. I just think all Aggie jerseys should be available to buy.

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Doesn't happen at the college level.

I do wish Adidas offered a few more basic options across the sports spectrum, but that's the most you could ever hope for at the college level.

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False. As mentioned in another thread on this subject, Nike offers authentic LSU and tu jerseys to fans, just as two examples.
It literally pisses me off that this trash ass soccer company thinks they're too good to sell baseball jerseys to Ags.

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Read that closer and take a breath before you respond.



And, also, since it was brought up, the Nike baseball jerseys that are available at some of their schools are not "authentic" in sports apparel parlance. They're not the real thing. They're (cheaper) "replicas."

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TXAggie2011 said:

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dermdoc said:

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I do not even care about the pinstripes one way or another. I just think all Aggie jerseys should be available to buy.

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Doesn't happen at the college level.

I do wish Adidas offered a few more basic options across the sports spectrum, but that's the most you could ever hope for at the college level.

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False. As mentioned in another thread on this subject, Nike offers authentic LSU and tu jerseys to fans, just as two examples.
It literally pisses me off that this trash ass soccer company thinks they're too good to sell baseball jerseys to Ags.

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Read that closer and take a breath before you respond.



And, also, since it was brought up, the Nike baseball jerseys that are available at some of their schools are not "authentic" in sports apparel parlance. They're not the real thing. They're (cheaper) "replicas."

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I'd take a cheaper replica that looks like the jerseys we wear bows It's the same concept of MLB jerseys. Authentics cost $300 and replicas cost $120

To not hide the ball, you can buy, for example, basic purple and gold LSU jerseys at a replica level. ($80 bucks.)

You can't buy any of the rest of their jerseys from Nike. You can only buy one of their hats, as well.

I wish Adidas offered a better option than the plain white one that is available. It is not even really a replica, I think. I wouldn't pay the $70 they charge.