My girlfriend said the TV announcer said it was a soldout game... but the camera never really showed the seats...

those of us at the game know that the arena was far from being packed... in fact, I would say it's maybe 3/4 full, if that much.

granted it's a weeknight game... but there it is... it's really not that bad at Reed.

tv announcer said it was sold out .... wow. didn't look sold out from section 71 where i was at.

exactly. I sat in section 66, the opposite side of where we were was completely empty.

Boxscore said 14,000... I smell BS.

more like 10000 .... maybe, big maybe

the attendance was pretty lacking. If that is how they "fill the drum" for all their home games, they need to do some major work.

But don't we all. Such is life in college basketball in the state of Texas.

Like everything else in sipville hype and spin always rule the day.

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100 ppl tops

Wrong game pedro, that was the high school game. I mean come on, even the girls could pull 105 tonight. Actually I'm serious about that part.

Tickets sold vs. butts in the seats.



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I was pretty shocked at the number of open seats. My guess is actual attendance was in the range of 12000 - which leaves about 2000+ empty seats.

stuck, if there was only 12k, that leaves over 4k empty seats.

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If that is how they "fill the drum" for all their home games, they need to do some major work.

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I agree that it sucks when we're not playing good teams. Basically, if we're not playing Kansas, OU, OSU, Tech, or a top 10 out of conference game, a lot of the season ticket holders don't bother to come. I wish the big money football ticket buyers wouldn't automatically get tickets to basketball, because a lot of them don't live in Austin and have trouble making it to weekday games. There's a lot of students that don't get to go that would love to fill those seats. We only get 2800 per game and there's over 52000 enrolled.

Tickets sold was over 14,000 but I saw on a box score that turnstyle attendance was just over 11K.

Wait, you just said we're not a good team.

You have no proof to back that up!!

40 points total is the proof.

we have a recurring problem with attendance, that's no secret. many of our games are "sellouts" from a sales perspective; however, many hoity toity alumni w/season tix only show up to marquee games like OU/OSU/Kansas, and hardly show up to mediocre-at-best games like A&M, Tech, Mizzou. this is the bane of many horn bball supporters existence, but perhaps is more explicable this year.

by the way, a full drum is ~16k if i'm not mistaken, so looks can be a bit deceiving.

Per the NCAA's website, Texas averaged 10500 fans per game at the FEC last year. A&M averaged 6100 fans at home last year.

No figures yet for this year.

Every attendance figure is for tickets sold plus comps, even the ones announced at Reed Arena.

No spin here.

Gig 'Em

so if the capacity is 16k, and 14k tickets were sold, while 11k showed up... that's considered a sold out (the TV announcers said it was a sold out game)?

They may not have had all the sections open. I don't think the two empty sections on the other side of the arena from Section 66 were open, so it could be that all available tickets were sold out.



Gig 'Em

SOLD - usually referring to the number of tickets that were bought. Has no connection with attendance.

Sold out does not mean at full capacity, if anything they were probably referring to the fact that all the student tickets sold out.

they only allocated 2900 tickets to student... selling out wasn't really referring to student tickets.

Our sellouts have all been real. We have not had any games where there are 3-4 thousand tickets sold without people in them. Who in Austin had tickets to last night's game that didn't show? There is obviously a normal small percentage given specific situation and family conflicts, but a 3-4 thousand difference means cooking the books when it represents like 25% of announced attendence for a conference game against a old rival.

Gap, you're never out of character, are you.

To think either Texas or A&M has the justification to argue basketball attendance is ludicrous.

But, carry on.

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Every attendance figure is for tickets sold plus comps, even the ones announced at Reed Arena.

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Not true for basketball Texas counts people in the building for attendance not tickets sold. They sold 16,000 tickets to the game last night and 14,000 were in the building (includes everyone).

We've always had a problem due to big $$$ in Houston and Dallas buying tickets and not showing up to games. This is why Rick Barnes wants to separate foundation giving for basketball from that given for football.

Always accurate.

I was in the upper level and there was at least 3k empty up there. Then add to the fact that there was about a 10% vacancy rate throught the stadium I would guess that there was 10,000 there.

Austinag, not to be picky or to deny there were empty seats but your math doesn't quite work. 16,000 total seats (forget the change) minus 3,000 empty in the upper deck is 13,000 seats less 10% (which is 1,300) still leaves around 12,000 (rounded) plus in the 14,000 includes all the non-seat holders in the building as they are normally counted as well. Thus I'd say your estimate supports the 14,000 number that the box score said. Either way we have problems but its not selling tickets its getting people to use the tickets or give them up so that others can use the tickets.

They have a large arena that looks empty with an attendence that would make Reed look full.

But their 14,000 figure is still total bullcrap (steercrap?). No way did they have 14,000 in that building. About 1/3rd of the upper deck was empty. And there were scattered empty seats all throughout the students section.

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[This message has been edited by Maegnas Is My Name (edited 2/18/2005 10:21a).]

http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/games/boxscores/MBB_5411_ut2.htm
Attendance: 14018
Turnstile Count: 11,203

edit: here it is again from texassports.com if you think that was "maroon glasses"
http://www.texassports.com/mainpages/mbb_pages/2004_05/000_stats/FEB16.HTM

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With the completion of 28 luxury suites at the top of the arena section, the capacity for the Erwin Center has increased to 16,755 (largest in the Big 12 Conference).

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http://www.texassports.com/mainpages/001_structure/facilitiespages/bb_facil.html
that leaves 5,552 empty seats and 2,737 unsold ticktes.

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OK...I was off 1200 people. It was just a guess.

why did this get brought up again.