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8:45a, 2/16/26
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Stray thought on a Monday, but I thought we finally saw a little bit of something from him last game. I thought his attitude even gave us a little bit of a spark for a few minutes. I thought his length at the top of the press was interesting too.

If you look at the stat line you're not going to be blown away, although 4 rebounds for him is not bad, but I thought he came in and set some good screens, he had a really nice clear out on that drive by Griffin, his length on defense gave Vandy some issues for a few possessions.

+/- isn't always an incredibly helpful stat, but in his 14 minutes on Saturday we were actually +4. Some of that definitely had to do with Vandy sort of put it in cruise control for a little bit and we made a decent run, but he was a big part of that run. Him and Dibba were the only players who played at least ten minutes that had a positive +/- on Saturday. (Dibba was actually +5 in 22 minutes, I actually think I'd consider starting Dibba for Dominguez just to change the vibe up)

It also looked like Bucky just wanted to put guys in that were willing to mix it up and he did that. We had some guys that, I wouldn't quite say they were just going through the motions, but they weren't playing with the kind of conviction you have to play with in this style of basketball.
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9:01a, 2/16/26
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Agreed 100%
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9:51a, 2/16/26
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When he played for Tech in the tourney when the opponents would go to double team one of their star players, he was open for a lob pass jam all day long.
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In reply to GoAgs92 • 10:03a, 2/16/26
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Having a guy like Toppin makes that a lot easier.
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In reply to GoAgs92 • 10:15a, 2/16/26
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When he played for Tech in the tourney when the opponents would go to double team one of their star players, he was open for a lob pass jam all day long.


His stock was at an all time high following the tournament last year.

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10:35a, 2/16/26
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I want to believe in him, but his level of athleticism and strength is not where it has been in previous years. I expected a Deandre Jordan type player, but we are getting way less than that. He has trouble just with simple box outs. He even got a dumb foul vs Vandy when he looked like he was initially in position to grab the rebound; he just got muscled out of the way and then fouled the guy. He's also not altering shots at the rim. And you're probably not going to get 15 minutes from him in a single game because he fouls a lot.

This Federiko experiment has been a total failure. Hopefully Bucky learns from this for future years.
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In reply to gunan01 • 10:48a, 2/16/26
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I expected a Deandre Jordan type player, but we are getting way less than that.


I mean that's absolutely on you if you expected that.

Federiko is a fourth year college player, he's a career 5-ish and 5-ish guy.

What I expected was a guy who could use his size to create some space for some guys to drive to the basket and then catch a lob or two if their defenders help. That play he helped create for Griffin is exactly what we need him to do. This team just doesn't have an elite individual creator that can also make shots. Lane is too short to finish around the basket, Hill can finish around the basket but he can't shoot. The closest we have is Isaacs and he's also a pretty rough finisher around the basket.
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11:21a, 2/16/26
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If we can get at least some value from him going into March, it'll be great. Been such a disappointment so far if the NIL numbers rumored are true.
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11:50a, 2/16/26
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My only thought about him after watching the game was that there was life in that body after all.

Took him long enough to show any kind of spark at all.

Maybe he will build on that because we need everything and everybody now to make the dance.

Ruben is shooting at like a 23% clip the last few games. If he could suddenly find his form that would be helpful as well. It might even be necessary for us.
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In reply to PJYoung • 11:52a, 2/16/26
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Yeah I mean I don't expect he's going to suddenly start getting 20 minutes a game or anything, but that's the kind of thing we need from him. Come in, play extremely hard, cause some chaos, etc. We don't need him to be a straight up goon, but we need him to bang on some people a little bit and try and give them some body blows for when Agee comes back in.
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1:17p, 2/16/26
Speaking of Dominguez...yeesh.

Struggling would be an understatement. Teams are just flying at him because he has zero game off the dribble.
It's hard to make 3s when it's not a clean look, and his are filthy because they don't respect any other part of his game.

He needs better guys off the dribble who look to drive and kick. Hill has been great driving the ball lately, but he doesn't look to kick it out much.
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1:30p, 2/16/26
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I never lost faith you in Fede, I still believe
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In reply to bobinator • 1:39p, 2/16/26
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bobinator said:
Stray thought on a Monday, but I thought we finally saw a little bit of something from him last game. I thought his attitude even gave us a little bit of a spark for a few minutes. I thought his length at the top of the press was interesting too.

If you look at the stat line you're not going to be blown away, although 4 rebounds for him is not bad, but I thought he came in and set some good screens, he had a really nice clear out on that drive by Griffin, his length on defense gave Vandy some issues for a few possessions.

+/- isn't always an incredibly helpful stat, but in his 14 minutes on Saturday we were actually +4. Some of that definitely had to do with Vandy sort of put it in cruise control for a little bit and we made a decent run, but he was a big part of that run. Him and Dibba were the only players who played at least ten minutes that had a positive +/- on Saturday. (Dibba was actually +5 in 22 minutes, I actually think I'd consider starting Dibba for Dominguez just to change the vibe up)

It also looked like Bucky just wanted to put guys in that were willing to mix it up and he did that. We had some guys that, I wouldn't quite say they were just going through the motions, but they weren't playing with the kind of conviction you have to play with in this style of basketball.


I thought the same thing- you articulated this well. I had hope that he can protect the rim better and get that 5/5. Vinson has been a little closer to the 5/5. I wish one would have a sliver of Agee's dawg mentality.
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3:32p, 2/16/26
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You look at his career and has averaged near 20 minutes a game ... At good programs... We need at least 10-15 good minutes a game from Fed.
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In reply to Aston04 • 3:46p, 2/16/26
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Aston04 said:
You look at his career and has averaged near 20 minutes a game ... At good programs... We need at least 10-15 good minutes a game from Fed.

it's really astonishing how bad he's been so far for us. like depressingly bad.
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 3:54p, 2/16/26
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I think most of it is attributable to him just not being a great fit for this style of play, but I also think some of that is due to the loss of Mgbako. With Mgbako, we could be much more intentional half court offensive team sometimes. That would help Federiko considerably. His best asset on offense is his ability to set good screens and roll to the basket. He's not a scorer, but has utility in a more traditional half court offense.

Without Mgbako, we have to absolutely crank up the speed on offense to get good looks most of the time because we're so incredibly undersized. We try to beat teams up the court even on made baskets. It's an offensive pace that I just don't think he's suited for. Texas Tech was in the 250's in tempo last year and Pitt was even slower than that.

But you don't really know that when you're piecing together a roster over the summer with really no time to scout these guys in-depth. We just had to take the best players available and hope it worked out.
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In reply to bobinator • 4:03p, 2/16/26
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bobinator said:
I think most of it is attributable to him just not being a great fit for this style of play, but I also think some of that is due to the loss of Mgbako. With Mgbako, we could be much more intentional half court offensive team sometimes. That would help Federiko considerably. His best asset on offense is his ability to set good screens and roll to the basket. He's not a scorer, but has utility in a more traditional half court offense.

Without Mgbako, we have to absolutely crank up the speed on offense to get good looks most of the time because we're so incredibly undersized. We try to beat teams up the court even on made baskets. It's an offensive pace that I just don't think he's suited for. Texas Tech was in the 250's in tempo last year and Pitt was even slower than that.

But you don't really know that when you're piecing together a roster over the summer with really no time to scout these guys in-depth. We just had to take the best players available and hope it worked out.

all good points. Just seems like there's something we can do differently to get at least minimal value out of the kid. Like you said, he's been showing glimpses of late, but there's got to be something the staff is missing there. If not, just an atrocious fit. We had to have bodies no matter what with what Bucky inherited, so he'd get a free pass there on a misfit.
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 4:13p, 2/16/26
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This is also where the timing thing comes more into play with it on our recruiting last year. With an entire year to prepare, I'd expect our GM has something like a database of players, their projected roles and potential value, etc. so that we can make much more strategic and informed decisions on portal players.
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In reply to bobinator • 5:05p, 2/16/26
The pick and roll lob threat has shown success when the guards can make the pass. In some cases taller defenders have blocked the sightline, but we've seen some good release points when the pass was thrown before the defender rotates and can't recover. It's looked good and been effective when it happens.
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5:17p, 2/16/26
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I'm not sure i wouldn't give all spare minutes to Vinson instead of Fed. Vinson could be back next year and I would like him to get the practice. I don't think you get much more from Fed than Vinson.
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5:23p, 2/16/26
Always thought he had weak hands for his size when at ttu. Great guy though .....would love to see him contribute for you guys as we head into march.
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5:27p, 2/16/26
I need Fred, Clemence and Vinson on the asthma side of the court and send student volunteers that are 6'6' 250lbs and above to go get rebounds in any way possible and those guys are responsible to BOX out and legally secure the rebound. 1 hour drill daily and rotate each player.
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5:47p, 2/16/26
Can McDermott rebound?
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6:44p, 2/16/26
Federiko Federiko finito finito
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9:43p, 2/16/26
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He is terrible waste of space nil etc

I also feel like he clowns around when he's out there like he is a meme

No thank you
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In reply to bobinator • 10:44p, 2/16/26
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I wondered if he didn't play more the last few games because he was getting an attitude adjustment.

I had a coach make me yell at the top of my lungs that I wanted to play during a game. I never had an issue with lack of effort after that. Maybe Bucky was doing the same. Minus the yelling about desire to play.
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9:42a, 2/17/26
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I would equate Federiko to Marlon Pompey. Prove me wrong Bobinator.
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In reply to justsomeguy • 9:49a, 2/17/26
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I think this is actually a better comp than people will initially think. Everyone's first instinct will be to say "Marlon was actually good on defense" but Marlon also played in a much different era of college basketball where you could be a lot more physical defensively. Neither of them score much, neither of them actually rebound much.

Statistically Federiko is a better player, but hard to quantify defensive stats, especially in Marlon's era.

Career stats per 40 mins:

Federiko: 10.3 pts, 9.4 rebounds, 67% from the floor, 6.8 fouls, 2.3 blocks
Marlon: 9.7 pts, 6.5 rebounds, 52% from the floor, 5.8 fouls. 1.4 blocks
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In reply to Ag-ME • 10:26a, 2/17/26
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Ag-ME said:
I'm not sure i wouldn't give all spare minutes to Vinson instead of Fed. Vinson could be back next year and I would like him to get the practice. I don't think you get much more from Fed than Vinson.

Disagree. A&M has been getting destroyed in the paint the last 4 games. Fed has barely played in those 4 games, except last... Last game his +/- was good (granted one game is not a large data set)...

If Fed plays better, I think he has more upside than we need and I think you gotta play fo rnow...
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In reply to Aston04 • 11:26a, 2/17/26
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I think Vinson is much more likely to put the ball in the basket, neither of them are very likely to get a rebound, overall Federiko is more athletic so he's less of a general defensive liability though neither of them are particularly good at defending the post.

I think what I've settled on is that if Agee is in foul trouble or something, I think Vinson is a better option to replace him, if we're struggling defensively because of size or something, Federiko is a better option to play alongside him.
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