Some individual stats after 26 games

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SECTAMU#1
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A strength, as we all know, is the teams offensive rebounding, through 26 games. Coleman leads the team with 2.6 offensive rebounds per game. Payne has 2.4 offensive rebounds per game followed by Washington and Garcia, both at 2.3 offensive rebounds per game. Garcia leads in total rebounds per game with 5.7. Washington is next with 5.6 total rebounds per game. Payne is 3rd with 5.3 rebounds per game.

When you look at assists vs turnovers vs steals, it is almost a wash for Phelps. Phelps has 2.4 assists per game 3.2 turnovers per game but also has 2.0 steals per game. Taylor has 4.5 assists and 2.4 turnovers game, but 1.5 steals per game. Obaseki has 1.2 assists to 1.3 turnovers and only .3 steals.

Our weakest Free throw shooter gets to the line the most. Payne gets 4.5 free throw attempts per game but only make 56% of them. Phelps gets 4.4 free throw attempts per game and makes 70%. Taylor gets 3.6 free throw attempts per game, which I think is down by 1 free throw attempt per game from last year. Taylor makes 88%.
rlb28
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One stat that jumps out at me is the number of 2FG attempts per player per game this year.

1. Z Phelps 9.6
2. H Coleman 5.3
3. M Obaseki 5.2
4. P Payne 4.9
5. W Taylor 4.8
LukeDuke
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Thanks for sharing
AgLA06
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rlb28 said:

One stat that jumps out at me is the number of 2FG attempts per player per game this year.

1. Z Phelps 9.6
2. H Coleman 5.3
3. M Obaseki 5.2
4. P Payne 4.9
5. W Taylor 4.8
Please elaborate.
rlb28
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How many shots per game each player is taking from the field - not including 3 pointers.

And Manny is taking the third most shots and has the worst 2FG% on the team at 36%
TheDecadeSapling
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Wades gotta have the ball in his hands. Offense needs to go through him
Give me the guy who shoots for excellence and fails over the guy who shoots for mediocrity and succeeds.
Fquin
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I would be interested in the +\- for each player. I believe it to be a much more informative statistic.
bobinator
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I don't know of any way to find a season +/-.

Evan Miya's website has some interesting lineup stats.

Not completely surprisingly, in his metrics our most valuable players are Taylor, Garcia and Washington.

And our best five man lineup is Garcia/Payne/Phelps/Taylor/Washington which is also the lineup I like best. I'd probably start Coleman instead of Washington because I like Solo off the bench.
90ags
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true...as long as he running the offense, moving/slashing, distributing and drawing the defense to him. At times, he seems to love the 3 ball and lives out there too much for my liking.

When it's falling, then ok, but tough to live back there when he's ice cold (and that has happened too much -- goes cold and still always going to shoot it -- understand Buzz has given him full autonomy and free will, so why we live / die by it in this offense).
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bobinator
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It's not even that he shoots it too much, I talked about this last season but it's true this season too, Taylor has like two different shots. He's very good at the in-rhythm shot. When he shoots one of those I'd guess he hits it at around a 40% or better clip.

But then he has this like, flip shot that he does that probably hits at around 15%. The release is lower, body isn't set, it looks like he's shooting because he thinks he's supposed to shoot it and not because he thinks he's actually going to make it.

It's a little hard to describe but if you watch him closely you can see it.
CapCity12thMan
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we're only good at rebounding because we can't shoot
bobinator
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Are we only good at defensive rebounding because our opponents can't shoot either?
AgLA06
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rlb28 said:

How many shots per game each player is taking from the field - not including 3 pointers.

And Manny is taking the third most shots and has the worst 2FG% on the team at 36%


Doesn't say much without 3 pointers. Wade would be top 3 if it was.
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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It would be interesting to see Wade's 2 pt shot success rate in the previous two seasons compared to now.

It just seems to me that he is getting blocked or otherwise stopped (and then lost in the trees with no good choices left) inside the paint a whole lot more this year than previously.

Also, he seems to be making more errant passes than in the past - but might be recency bias on my part.

I would like to see more deliberate passing inside from all of our guards to our bigs - with bigs looking to receive those passes.

Also - need more Payne scoring inside - early and often - with attention for him, should he get doubled or tripled, to pass out to an open Taylor, Phelps, Hefner, Wilcher or Obaseki - but NOT Carter (please) - for the 3-point try...
rlb28
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Wade Taylor

2022-23 (2-point FGs)
2.3 of 5.2 attempts = 44.5%

2023-24 (2-point FGs)
3.2 of 7.9 attmpets = 41%

2024-25 (2-point FGs)
1.9 of 4.8 attempts = 40%

2.6 TOs in '23
2.8 TOs in '24
2.4 TOs in '25

Career high in assists this year at 4.5/game compared to 3.9 and 4.0 in previous years.
Divining Rod
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I absolutely know which two shooting forms. i cant say i know which has a better %.

But i can say this- those shots he puts up because we "need" a basket and you sense he's going to shoot no matter- dont seem to have high %.

I would like our O to go through Phelps and have Wade hanging out for 3s to stretch the floor.
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CapCity12thMan said:

we're only good at rebounding because we can't shoot
We are currently second in the country in offensive rebounding percentage.
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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rlb28 said:

Wade Taylor

2022-23 (2-point FGs)
2.3 of 5.2 attempts = 44.5%

2023-24 (2-point FGs)
3.2 of 7.9 attmpets = 41%

2024-25 (2-point FGs)
1.9 of 4.8 attempts = 40%

2.6 TOs in '23
2.8 TOs in '24
2.4 TOs in '25

Career high in assists this year at 4.5/game compared to 3.9 and 4.0 in previous years.


Thank you! Looks like I'm mistaken in my own sense of Wade's relative success (or lack of it) this year compared to prior years.

Still, with regard to the misses inside the paint, it just seems like he is getting blocked a mot more this year as opposed to missing the shot.

Also - is Wade getting fouled (or at least getting the calls) significantly less this year than in prior years when he does elect to drive to the basket?
bobinator
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You're not mistaken, the percentage may only slightly be lower but the rate at which he shoots twos is down and the free throw attempts are down.

Wade averaged 7.8 FTs per 40mins two years ago, 6.4 last year, and 4.8 this year.
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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Thanks.

Hard to say how much of this reduction is having other options from an offensive point of view and how much of it might reflect opponents' success in game planning against Wade this year.

I do notice that when he is not the one bringing the ball up the court that alot of the teams we play against really emphasize denying a clear way to get the ball to Four.
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