You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

tu is the only one or two seed left

StacksOnSully said:

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You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

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He should imo. Built the team and cleared of all charges. Granted I hope to God this doesn't have to come up.

So?

johnnyblaze36 said:

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StacksOnSully said:

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You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

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He should imo. Built the team and cleared of all charges. Granted I hope to God this doesn't have to come up.

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i think it would make texas look bad if they did give him one. somebody should suggest it.

Texas needs to not choke against Miami, and go from there.

No way the sips give him a ring. The cloud over his head remains as most think he did abuse his fiance.

Plus he is already at Mississippi. He has moved on.

StacksOnSully said:

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You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

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Not when they fire the coach mid season.

johnnyblaze36 said:

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StacksOnSully said:

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You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

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He should imo. Built the team and cleared of all charges. Granted I hope to God this doesn't have to come up.

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SAME HERE. i think they pulled the trigger early firing him anyway unless there was something in his contract or other issues.

We live in cancel culture now. I am sure there was enormous pressure to fire him for something he "likely" did do.

The fiance's walk back of the strangulation was suspect imo.

If you were a random third party looking at what happened, you see this timeline

Coach arrested on charge of choking fiancee.
School fires coach.
Accuser completely changes story and says he never choked her and he was acting in self defense.
DA says charges dropped.

If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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Successfully suing a public university in the state requires legislative permission. Sovereign immunity protects Texas from potential Chris Beard lawsuit.

Leach tried it and failed.

Nattie said:

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We live in cancel culture now. I am sure there was enormous pressure to fire him for something he "likely" did do.

The fiance's walk back of the strangulation was suspect imo.

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There was no likely did it. He did it! It's two crazy people in an abusive relationship where both are abusive and it won't be the last time this happens. I am sure they just both agreed to keep things under wraps next time it happens as to make sure they don't financially hurt themselves going forward.

The Porkchop Express said:

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If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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No chance in hell he wins that. No chance!!

The Porkchop Express said:

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If you were a random third party looking at what happened, you see this timeline

Coach arrested on charge of choking fiancee.
School fires coach.
Accuser completely changes story and says he never choked her and he was acting in self defense.
DA says charges dropped.

If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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His contract almost assuredly gave the university broad discretion to fire him and almost assuredly was explicit that they didn't need criminal charges to fire him

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cleared of all charges

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His battered partner changed her story (like they often do) and declined to cooperate as a witness so the DA had no choice but to drop the charges. He wasn't cleared of anything.

Nattie said:

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We live in cancel culture now. I am sure there was enormous pressure to fire him for something he "likely" did do.

The fiance's walk back of the strangulation was suspect imo.

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Ah, yes. Let's blame the cancel culture boogeyman. It's all the libs fault Beard couldn't keep his high profile high paying gig after beating his fiance.

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If you were a random third party looking at what happened, you see this timeline

Coach arrested on charge of choking fiancee.
School fires coach.
Accuser completely changes story and says he never choked her and he was acting in self defense.
DA says charges dropped.

If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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Amusingly the fiance released a statement that was supposed to save him, and presumably was crafted by their counsel:

https://www.burntorangenation.com/platform/amp/2022/12/23/23524704/chris-beard-fiance-statement-felony-arrest-texas-longhorns

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"Chris and I are deeply saddened that we have brought negative attention upon our family, friends, and the University of Texas, among others," the statement reads. "As Chris' fiance and biggest supporter, I apologize for the role I played in this unfortunate event. . .

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Since Beard's contract had a morality clause (as they all do) that's a pretty damning admission regarding the negative attention "they" were culpable for.

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Any conduct (a) that the University administration reasonably determines is clearly unbecoming to a Head Coach and reflects poorly on the University, the Program, . . .

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https://www.kxan.com/investigations/chris-beards-contract-shows-lucrative-benefits-options-for-termination/amp/

I imagine he'll have counsel make private demand on the university for the remaining amounts owed under the contract, and the parties will settle for far less than what was owed with a confidentiality clause. It's not in Beard, UT, or Beard's prospective new school's interest to put his "self-defense" back in the spotlight.

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The Porkchop Express said:

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If you were a random third party looking at what happened, you see this timeline

Coach arrested on charge of choking fiancee.
School fires coach.
Accuser completely changes story and says he never choked her and he was acting in self defense.
DA says charges dropped.

If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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Amusingly the fiance released a statement that was supposed to save him, and presumably was crafted by their counsel:

https://www.burntorangenation.com/platform/amp/2022/12/23/23524704/chris-beard-fiance-statement-felony-arrest-texas-longhorns

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"Chris and I are deeply saddened that we have brought negative attention upon our family, friends, and the University of Texas, among others," the statement reads. "As Chris' fiance and biggest supporter, I apologize for the role I played in this unfortunate event. . .

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Since Beard's contract had a morality clause (as they all do) that's a pretty damning admission regarding the negative attention they were culpable for.

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Any conduct (a) that the University administration reasonably determines is clearly unbecoming to a Head Coach and reflects poorly on the University, the Program, . . .

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https://www.kxan.com/investigations/chris-beards-contract-shows-lucrative-benefits-options-for-termination/amp/

I imagine he'll have counsel make private demand on the university for part of his contract, and both parties will settle for far less than what was owed with a confidentiality clause. It's not in Beard, UT, or Beard's new school's interest to put it back in the spotlight.

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Texas will disappear him from its basketball history.

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cleared of all charges

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His battered partner changed her story (like they often do) and declined to cooperate as a witness so the DA had no choice but to drop the charges. He wasn't cleared of anything.

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I'm not some huge Chris Beard fan but your statement is simply factually incorrect:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/felony-charge-against-former-texas-coach-chris-beard-dropped-two-months-following-arrest/

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The domestic violence charge against former Texas basketball coach Chris Beard was dismissed Wednesday by the Travis County District Attorney's Office roughly two months after Beard was initially arrested and faced with third-degree felony assault.

"After a careful and thorough review of the evidence, recent public statements, and considering Ms. Trew's wishes, our office has determined that the felony offense cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt," the Travis County District Attorney's Office said in a statement.

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greg.w.h said:

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Faustus said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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If you were a random third party looking at what happened, you see this timeline

Coach arrested on charge of choking fiancee.
School fires coach.
Accuser completely changes story and says he never choked her and he was acting in self defense.
DA says charges dropped.

If you're UT, you should be a lot more worried about getting sued than about whether a guy deserves a ring or not.

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Amusingly the fiance released a statement that was supposed to save him, and presumably was crafted by their counsel:

https://www.burntorangenation.com/platform/amp/2022/12/23/23524704/chris-beard-fiance-statement-felony-arrest-texas-longhorns

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"Chris and I are deeply saddened that we have brought negative attention upon our family, friends, and the University of Texas, among others," the statement reads. "As Chris' fiance and biggest supporter, I apologize for the role I played in this unfortunate event. . .

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Since Beard's contract had a morality clause (as they all do) that's a pretty damning admission regarding the negative attention they were culpable for.

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Any conduct (a) that the University administration reasonably determines is clearly unbecoming to a Head Coach and reflects poorly on the University, the Program, . . .

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https://www.kxan.com/investigations/chris-beards-contract-shows-lucrative-benefits-options-for-termination/amp/

I imagine he'll have counsel make private demand on the university for part of his contract, and both parties will settle for far less than what was owed with a confidentiality clause. It's not in Beard, UT, or Beard's new school's interest to put it back in the spotlight.

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Texas will disappear him from its basketball history.

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There's not much to disappear.

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"After a careful and thorough review of the evidence, recent public statements, and considering Ms. Trew's wishes, our office has determined that the felony offense cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt," the Travis County District Attorney's Office said in a statement"

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Are you saying that if a player is kicked off the team in December and that team goes on to win it all, they give that player a ring?

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's how it works

Tobias Funke said:

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Are you saying that if a player is kicked off the team in December and that team goes on to win it all, they give that player a ring?

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's how it works

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Bama can get Miller to deliver his sec champ ring to the guy that killed the girl

Tobias Funke said:

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Are you saying that if a player is kicked off the team in December and that team goes on to win it all, they give that player a ring?

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's how it works

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This is probably correct and perhaps I should revise my original stance.

I have much respect for Texas for doing it. If they weren't Texas this board would likely be rooting for them. At some point we need to quit worrying about other s hooks and just worry about us not sucking ass in every sport. When is the last time any coach has built upon 1 season of success?

Billy Clyde is last one I can remember. The rest flop at any sign of success.

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I have much respect for Texas for doing it. If they weren't Texas this board would likely be rooting for them. At some point we need to quit worrying about other s hooks and just worry about us not sucking ass in every sport. When is the last time any coach has built upon 1 season of success?

Billy Clyde is last one I can remember. The rest flop at any sign of success.

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Didn't Turgeon take us to the dance three straight years after Billy Clyde?

And I don't know if you're just talking about basketball but Pat Henry has a pretty solid track record of success. And Schloss got us to the CWS in year 1 and has us ranked again.

Coach G consistently has women's soccer as a quality team.

Tennis is usually pretty strong as well along with golf.

And don't you dare forget about equestrian!!

Cancel culture. Glad they fired him bc he was a good coach. This other guy isn't nearly as good.

He didn't even beat her probably. He probably was getting beat down by her and defended himself and in the process hurt her a bit trying to get away.

johnnyblaze36 said:

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TMF said:

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I have much respect for Texas for doing it. If they weren't Texas this board would likely be rooting for them. At some point we need to quit worrying about other s hooks and just worry about us not sucking ass in every sport. When is the last time any coach has built upon 1 season of success?

Billy Clyde is last one I can remember. The rest flop at any sign of success.

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Didn't Turgeon take us to the dance three straight years after Billy Clyde?

And I don't know if you're just talking about basketball but Pat Henry has a pretty solid track record of success. And Schloss got us to the CWS in year 1 and has us ranked again.

Coach G consistently has women's soccer as a quality team.

Tennis is usually pretty strong as well along with golf.

And don't you dare forget about equestrian!!

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I think you are right about Turge. I didn't include him because I don't think he built upon anything more than Billy did. He inherited Deandre and still.

I also said build on top of success. Schloss is in his second year so TBD. I am not ready to write them off, but we have a wall to climb. Football we all know. All other sports are just icing on top of a cake we don't have.

StacksOnSully said:

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You always see it with anyone who had anything to do with the whole season.

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I vote 'no'.

agent-maroon said:

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His battered partner changed her story (like they often do) and declined to cooperate as a witness so the DA had no choice but to drop the charges. He wasn't cleared of anything.

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I don't know that she changed her story. He was arrested because of what the police officer allegedly SAW and thus, put in his report. She later said whatever contact he made with her was in self defense. I don't know who called the police.

Only those 2 know what actually happened.

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He didn't even beat her probably. He probably was getting beat down by her and defended himself and in the process hurt her a bit trying to get away.

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He's lucky to have escaped. Are you thinking a retreating strangulation, bite and run, or Beard laying down suppressing blows as he fled for his life?

I want to hear more about the glasses too. Hopefully he was able to replace them.

Most people in this day and age have smart home security systems whether wealthy or not, but certainly those with a lot of money. One would think it would be pretty easy to determine what went down assuming their cameras were on.

Blinnaggie2002 said:

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Cancel culture. Glad they fired him bc he was a good coach. This other guy isn't nearly as good.

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Except they are going to the Final Four for the first time in 20 years.