There are now more than 300 D1 college basketball players in the transfer portal.

— TXRecruited - Chris Wash (@TXRecruited) March 14, 2023

This is crazy. I wonder how many of these kids will end up without a home wondering what went wrong.

No one really tracks this, but many of these kids also played at multiple high schools and with multiple select/AAU teams growing up.

Unfortunately for basketball from a young age the culture is if you can get a spot on a team with better coaching and resources you take it.

By the time they are in college they are used to the idea that they are free agents.

I'd actually be interested in how the athlete transfer rate compares to the overall student transfer rate. Athletes have traditionally been more limited because of the ncaa and scholarship structure. But kids transfer all the time for an infinite number of reasons.

Kids on full scholarship transfer at a very low rate ,
Regular students transfer some but I am thinking it is usually because they need to go somewhere less expensive

I for see us returning everybody but Taylor and any seniors out of years

That will be great for next year. Pick up 3-4 guys in portal and we will have a solid year

What do you think is happening with Taylor?

The best player in the recent NBA history moved from team to team.

Method Man said:

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The best player in the recent NBA history moved from team to team.

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Steph has been with the Warriors his whole career. (now I duck...)

warrington74 said:

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I for see us returning everybody but Taylor and any seniors out of years

That will be great for next year. Pick up 3-4 guys in portal and we will have a solid year

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Taylor is only a sophomore and is not on any NBA draft projections. Has become a great college player but is only 6'0''-ish, which will be a size negative by NBA evaluators.

He's from Dallas, Texas and has the keys to drive the Texas A&M program which is now flourishing headlining him as the main star. He and Buzz seem to have a great relationship. Transfer risk seems near zero.

Unless there is some sort of insider information that Taylor wants to play overseas or something that I'm not aware of and never heard mentioned, I'd be pretty shocked if we didn't have him at least 1 more year, and moderately surprised if not 2 more years.

Sq 17 said:

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Kids on full scholarship transfer at a very low rate ,
Regular students transfer some but I am thinking it is usually because they need to go somewhere less expensive

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Hmm. Maybe. I just know my fish class was about 40% bigger than my grad class and I think that's typical. I also know both my brother and sister transferred to smaller schools because A&M was just too big.

High Point transfer Zack Austin tells @Stockrisers the newest schools to reach out are Mizzou, Texas A&M, TCU, New Mexico, Pittsburgh, Loyola Chicago, LMU, South Alabama, and many others. https://t.co/GXIpZ7zCVD

— Jake (@jakeweingarten) March 14, 2023

These kids need to be taught the importance of commitment. There should be some sort of incentive to stay with your original commitment, or a penalty to transfer. I was always in favor of the ability to transfer with a one year waiting period. When they removed the one year waiting period and added NIL, all heck has broke loose.

caleblyn said:

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These kids need to be taught the importance of commitment. There should be some sort of incentive to stay with your original commitment, or a penalty to transfer. I was always in favor of the ability to transfer with a one year waiting period. When they removed the one year waiting period and added NIL, all heck has broke loose.

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You assume the coaches want them to stay which is a major flaw in your argument.

caleblyn said:

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These kids need to be taught the importance of commitment. There should be some sort of incentive to stay with your original commitment, or a penalty to transfer.

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Agree.

Dexter Dennis, Julius Marble and Andersson Garcia should absolutely not be playing basketball this year. Their transfer makes a mockery of the commitment caleblyn expects these kids to make

wacarnolds said:

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caleblyn said:

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These kids need to be taught the importance of commitment. There should be some sort of incentive to stay with your original commitment, or a penalty to transfer.

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Agree.

Dexter Dennis, Julius Marble and Andersson Garcia should absolutely not be playing basketball this year. Their transfer makes a mockery of the commitment caleblyn expects these kids to make

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They know about commitment if they transfer here. Anyone else is just a self-entitled brat that needs to learn about how it was like when we were kids and we couldn't transfer willy nilly.

UIC sophomore transfer Jace Carter tells @On3sports he’s heard from the following schools since entering the portal:

Texas A&M
Missouri
Wisconsin
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
Minnesota
Butler
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Iowa State https://t.co/14tI62Ca4N… https://t.co/ZR4ei5NKVP

— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) March 14, 2023

300 seems like a big number, but there are 360 teams.

It's still early though - last year 1500 D1 college basketball players transferred.

I don't understand your thumbs down, that's my point, from a young age they learn to chase opportunities. Lebron learned the same lesson when he was young and was recruited into an elite Catholic school and offered free loans on Hummers. His decisions to switch teams just back up that culturally, the way we raise basketball players has encouraged them to hunt opportunities.

Look at these top basketball recruits, some of them end up attending 3-4 high schools as their stock improves and some of the elite basketball factories offer up spots to them. They don't go through the normal process that most of us did when we played in high school. Most of us had to play first on the freshman team, then JV, then earn a bench spot on Varsity, than earn a starting spot on varsity. That didn't use to be a bad thing to work your way up, even talented freshmen weren't usually going to push out the seniors and juniors on the team.

But now, these kids have been playing AAU since 3rd grade, hunting opportunities and moving teams to ensure max court time and development and so it's not surprising that when they get to college they treat it the same way, get recruited to play for Iowa State.... then Texas comes calling and boom time to transfer. Don't play enough your freshman year, time to transfer.

I don't necessarily disagree with letting players have the freedom to chase the best opportunity, they would be fools not to in some cases, but I do think that they learn at too young of an age to give up in the face of adversity, and them giving up is just disguised as chasing an opportunity.

Obviously this doesn't describe all transfers, and I think some end up transferring back home precisely because they finally tire of chasing opportunities, they realize after 2-3 years that the grass isn't always greener and choose to go where they really wanted to be all along.

NIL has complicated this arrangement even more, because better opportunity doesn't just mean a chance to get coached by an elite coach, it also means short term financial windfalls. 21 year old version of me would have had a hard time turning down even 10,000 dollars had someone dangled that as an inducement, I can't imagine what it's like as a college athlete to be offered 100,000.

I knew a kid who committed to Southeastern La back in 1999 or so. They bought him a $15000 truck. Simpler times,

UTSA transfer DJ Richards tells me these schools have been reaching out since entering the portal:

TCU
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Georgia Tech
San Francisco
McNeese State
Richmond
Tulsa
Tulane
Grand Canyon

Richards averaged 10.5PPG and 4.5RPG this season. pic.twitter.com/QSK4fC9uuy

— 24/7 High School Hoops (@247HSHoops) March 19, 2023

Clemson freshman transfer Chauncey Gibson tells @TransferPortal_ the following schools have been in contact…

Texas A&M
SMU
Arizona State
NC State
Tulsa
Santa Clara
George Washington
U Mass
and more…

>> https://t.co/DoS0cGe5Dt pic.twitter.com/UH6OUmC20V

— Jamie Shaw (@JamieShaw5) March 18, 2023

Texas Tech transfer Robert Jennings is hearing the most from Virginia, Houston, West Virginia, Texas A&M, Utah, Tulsa, Saint Louis, and SMU, per a family member.

Jennings is also keeping the option of returning to Texas Tech on the table. @TTU247 @247SportsPortal

— Austin Massey (@austinmassey247) March 18, 2023

UMass transfer Noah Fernandes has been hearing from these schools since entering the portal:

Butler
NC State
Texas A&M
Kansas State
Richmond
Boston College
Penn State
Dayton
Rhode Island
Ole Miss
Mississippi St.
Old Dominion

Averaged 13.4PPG, 4.1APG and 2.5RPG last season. pic.twitter.com/EvU0iEkHJm

— 24/7 High School Hoops (@247HSHoops) March 17, 2023

Vanderbilt transfer Myles Stute tells me that he’s heard from Arkansas, Louisville, Pittsburgh, NC State, Xavier, Iowa, Texas A&M, Miami, Georgia, South Carolina, VCU, & more since entering the transfer portal.

Junior (F), averaged 8.4 PPG, 4.6 RPG, & 0.6 APG this season. pic.twitter.com/HKsCirXfc4

— Recruits Zone (@recruitszone) March 16, 2023

I don't love when Emmanuel Miller types transfer but get why Henry Coleman types do. Miller would've played a lot for us and done well. He picked a better b-ball school but his outlook didn't change much. Of course he was following his coach. I'm just saying that situation don't love.

Transfer PG Noah Fernandes @noahfernandes_ of @ExpressionsBall , who shot 45% from 3 & averaged 13.4 pts & 4.1 assists at UMass, has heard from Butler, NC State, Texas A&M, ODU, Boston College, Penn St, Dayton, Kansas State, URI, Ole Miss, Mississippi St. & Richmond. pic.twitter.com/HXnSkVXPC4

— 𝒜𝓃𝒹𝓇ℯ𝓌 𝒮𝓁𝒶𝓉ℯ𝓇 (@Andrew__Slater) March 20, 2023

I'll take Fernandes and Stute. There, I just fixed our shooting problem.

Less than one transfer per roughly 12 schola shop slots per school. That definitely smells more like a national crises d than Russia invading Ukraine…

MTSU transfer Teafale Lenard has heard from the following schools since entering the portal, he tells @On3sports:

Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Memphis
Nebraska
Wake Forest
Texas State
Utah State
Colorado State
SMUhttps://t.co/2dW3mSsBGP

— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) March 21, 2023

LawHall88 said:

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MTSU transfer Teafale Lenard has heard from the following schools since entering the portal, he tells @On3sports:

Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Memphis
Nebraska
Wake Forest
Texas State
Utah State
Colorado State
SMUhttps://t.co/2dW3mSsBGP

— Joe Tipton (@TiptonEdits) March 21, 2023

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Leonard seems to be a good defender, maybe not as good as Dennis but at 6'7 he has good size. Averaged around 1.6 steals a game. Seems like a Buzz type recruit

AggieEP said:

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No one really tracks this, but many of these kids also played at multiple high schools and with multiple select/AAU teams growing up.

Unfortunately for basketball from a young age the culture is if you can get a spot on a team with better coaching and resources you take it.

By the time they are in college they are used to the idea that they are free agents.

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If you look at the NBA, the most stability of the "star" players tend to be internationally, especially if the team isn't winning championships.

Steph Curry and Dame sticking with one team tends to be the anomaly. LeBron, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Kyrie, Kawhi, Paul George, Anthony Davis, Donovan Mitchell, Chris Paul and Jimmy Butler have played for multiple teams and/or have requested trades.

Internationally: Jokic, Giannis, Embiid have stuck with one team (so far).




Too early to tell: Tatum/Brown, Luka, Morant, Booker, etc.

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I'll take Fernandes and Stute. There, I just fixed our shooting problem.

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A 6-7 forward, Stute averaged 8.4 points per game and 4.6 rebounds while shooting 36.1% from 3-point range, but was the SEC's leading three point shooter the year before hitting 43.2% from beyond the arc, a number he hit close to in out of conference play in 2022-23. Stute will have two seasons of eligibility remaining at his next program. Reportedly also hearing from Nebraska, Texas A&M, South Carolina, Arkansas and others.

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Embiid played at multiple high schools in Florida

Are you supporting or refuting me?