This is not true any longer.

''At A&M, we didn't have guys leave. At Texas A&M, they just didn't leave. Guys didn't leave. You could ask a guy to leave and he wouldn't leave,'' Turgeon said. ''Right now guys are leaving. We'll get it corrected and we'll move on.''

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Hyman needs to be fired. Take your boy Kennedy with you.

Tuge had what Adams and Bowles? What two kids in four years and Kennedy is at nine in three years. Again you can't build a program with a revolving door.

Funny thread considering Turgeon has already had 4 players leave his program this year and 1 more on the way form what I hear up here in MD.
Plus GM just came out to give his support to Turge...kiss of death? Though the team can't afford to fire him. He did well to get the long contract. They are stuck with him.

Glad Turgeon is gone !

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Jeremy Adams (transferred to Colorado), Bowles, Beasly, & that seven footer James Blassomething (transferred to USC). Now technically, I am sure at least one of those guys did ask Turgeon to leave, it was not all Turge running them off

There are actually many similarities between what is going on between Turgeon at Maryland and Kennedy here.

Kennedy has now had 8 players leave the program in 3 seasons. Turgeon has now had 7 players leave in 3 seasons (4 this off-season with yet another possibly expected).

Both Kennedy and Turgeon appear to be in a 'make NCAA or else' 4th season situation...certainly both seats are really warm.

Turgeon just lost one of his best players and scorers in Seth Allen which was a big blow to his chances next season. Kennedy has now lost Jamal Jones.

Both coaches are hoping for incoming recruited players to make a significant difference and turn their ship around. Turgeon's recruiting class is rated higher than Kennedy's, though Kennedy does have an SMU transfer (Jalen Jones) who is perhaps better situated to immediately jump in and significantly help from Day 1.

Frankly, I don't really like either Kennedy or Turgeon's chances to be coaching at their current schools 2 seasons from now.

Keep a Jim Wisdom Tally

1. Trading Turgeon for BK was a good thing

2. Losing Jamal our leading scorer was a good thing.






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Anyone who would rather have the incompetent sleazebag we have now over Turgeon is a dumb ass of the highest order.

BigJim49 DrivingAroundOnACellPhone just bounces from board to board making inane commentary that rarely rises above senility. Just ignore him

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glad you got what you wanted. A loveable loser.

Usual pessimists making usual statements !

Only a COWARD calls a good guy a "sleazebag" .

how do you know he's a "good guy"?

from his associations with Frank Haith and Kermit Davis? from his revolving door rosters? from his "don't blame me" public comments?

only old, senile people call anonymous Ags "cowards" for blaming a coach for a bad program.

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Believe it or not, some people on here actually know BK and don't just make assumptions based off false rumors found on the internet. BK is a good guy.

Truth...

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Believe it or not, some people on here actually know BK and don't just make assumptions based off false rumors found on the internet. BK is a good guy.

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Ask Cyp if he's a good guy, which is actually irrelevant.

Well then I can hardly wait for the news release that discusses fostering 37 kids, donating $1MM of his personal money to disaster victims, leading a pro bono after school program for troubled teenagers, providing outstanding leadership and counsel for his players, and visiting sick kids in hospitals!

I want some examples of why he is a good guy.

I see a coach who has scapegoated his players and assistants for three years to hide his coaching shortcomings.

I see a coach who has ran off 9 players (and counting) in three years, and ALL of those players are bad apples according to his supporters.

I see a coach associated with two NCAA sanctioned programs including the awful Miami one under Haith.

I see a coach using his health issues as an excuse for his poor performance and playing on the sympathies of the administration and donors to avoid being rightfully fired.

I see a coach who left his alma mater as soon as he saw any success.

I see a coach who ran off a loyal and longtime friend (who passed up better jobs to stay with him) for some undefined reason.

I see a coach who is clearly out of touch with reality (see his interviews).

I see an opportunistic d-bag, who regularly throws his players under the bus.

Just because he has an incurable disease does not make him a good guy.

In the end, he is neither a good guy or bad guy. He is just a terrible coach who is desperate to keep drawing an undeserved paycheck from A&M.

BK is the common thread to all of A&M's basketball problems right now. The sooner he is gone, the sooner the program can start rebuilding. And it is going to really need a rebuild unlike when BK took over and promptly ran it into a ditch.

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viva - I respect your opinion as your opinion, but please refrain from the name calling.

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I'm tired of people saying BK is a good guy without anything to back it up.

Frankly, I see nothing good about him in his role as A&M basketball coach or for much of his career.

BK = a 0.352 Coach

speaking of staff actions, did XL get the hammah again?

Turgeon did us no favors. He never embraced A&M. When he spoke at the Dallas A&M Club luncheon he could not have acted more disinterested. He left a mess which lasted a couple years. Billy had a positive track record before A&M, but has not accomplished anything at A&M. However, he has a good looking roster for next year and I believe he deserves our support for one more year. Griping on the Boards at this point does nothing but sour future recruits and probably the current team members too.

Are you on crack?

First off Turgeon didn't leave a "mess." And second no Billy Kennedy doesn't have a "positive track record." Well if you call a few ticks above .500 as "positive."

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First off Turgeon didn't leave a "mess."

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But he did leave the program in much worse shape than he found it. He wasn't the long-term answer for A&M's program. Neither is BK.

In comparing A&M to Maryland over the past 3 years, THE PUMP neglected to mention Maryland advancing to the semi-finals of the NIT in 2012-13, a 25-win season for the Terps. Also, Maryland demonstrated an ability to recruit at least 1 highly touted big man. Finally, Maryland has had winning seasons all 3 years, and was .500 or better in conference play 2 of 3 years.

Kennedy failed to make an NIT appearance, failed to recruit a highly ranked big man (in 3+ years), his first season @ A&M was sub .500, and he hasn't managed a winning in-conference record.

In a tougher conference, Turge has had more success @ Maryland than Kennedy has had @ A&M over the past 3 years.

Of course, PUMP fails to connect these dots, b/c he's got sunshine in his eyes.

The program was in fine shape if Byrne had hired a real basketball coach.

Last year Turgeon 17-15

Kennedy 18 - 16

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IMO he's a good man and I know him a lot better than you do, as do the other people who know him personally. What you, and others, don't like about him is really his performance. I don't like his performance, either, I just don't need to demonize him to make me feel better about criticizing him.

I've never understood the sports mentality that believes we have to tear a man down to make ourselves feel better about wanting to get rid of him for performance reasons.

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How do you know him personally? What is your relationship that you KNOW he is a good man?

There are plenty of people who vouch for their friends and family no matter how bad they are.

Frankly, those closest to someone are often the worst people to provide an objective opinion on the quality of their character.

He is no better a man than your average guy on the street and you know it.

I am not tearing him down. His public actions as HC (aside from the losing) do not signal good guy to me at all. And that is all the majority of us have to go by.

Unless you can provide something that proves he is a good man other than your vague opinion maybe you should quit pushing that line.

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This is the same mindset that I described above. You don't know the guy and you don't know what I know about him, but you make factual statements about both! Think about that.

You WANT him to be a bad guy because you're mad at him about his performance. Just be mad about his performance. That's reasonable, understandable, and I happen to agree. Some of the crap I've seen Aggies spew on here (this thread isn't that bad, but one of the other ones on here is horrible) is a flat-out embarrassment.

I've gone to church with the man, had dealings with with him in business and charities, had a bunch of conversations with him, including lengthy ones, and I believe he is a good man. He would be the first to admit that he is not perfect, but he's humble and he's trying. We never can truly know another man's heart, but I have a heckuva lot more to go off than most on here.

A lot of Ags on here get mad about the Aggies losing a game, pick some quotes they don't like from the postgame presser (anyone ever LIKE what the losing coach has to say in the postgame presser?), and make a bunch of public, personal attacks about the man. Just make it about basketball, Ags, there's enough to be upset about there without inventing other stuff which brings discredit to yourself, BK, and A&M.

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Good men don't stab their palls in the back and blame the kids for why you can't coach.

In business good men let other good men go all of the time for various reasons. Cyp was a very highly-compensated assistant coach with a reputation as an elite recruiter who didn't recruit anywhere near that level in his tenure here. If we're not going to get the elite recruiting, we need better coaching, and we appear to have upgraded both assistant coaching positions this offseason from a coaching perspective (decent chance we haven't lost much, if anything, from a recruiting perspective either).

And every coach at every level at some point criticizes his players and at other times criticizes his own coaching, and BK is no different. It's when he's losing that it ticks us off, but what really ticks us off is the losing.


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