Building a new house and looking at appliances etc. I cook a lot and have previously had a glass-top electric stove and liked it well enough but I'm also entertaining propane.

I cook and bake a lot.

I've heard natural gas is >>> LP is kinda tied with electric. Not really punched out about induction due to having to replace A LOT of cookware.

ETA budget is decent- willing to buy once cry once, but definitely want to LOVE it if that's the case.

If you cook and bake a lot, propane for cooktop and electric for the oven. Not sure if you're looking for separate units or a range combo. Electric is better for baking, less moisture in the air to deal with. I prefer propane/ gas for the cook top as it's easier to control the heat in my opinion.

You can find dual fuel single units as well if you're looking to have a range. Of course you can upsize to a wider range as well, 36", 48", 60" and up, if the budget allowed.

I'm considering a Zline 48" RA48 for our new build coming up. Need to check more recommendations before settling on it.

Check out Build.com or AJ Madison for better pricing.

Do you have a natural gas supply or are you talking propane tank vs electric?

We are building now without a gas supply and went with a buried tank for propane rangetop and outdoor kitchen plus to power a generator. Electric ovens

Dual fuel. I hate my gas oven. Love my gas cooktop.

Didn't AOC ban gas stoves?

Beckdiesel03 said:

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Dual fuel. I hate my gas oven. Love my gas cooktop.

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Same. I use my toaster oven for baking.

They say a gas oven is better for baking breads and that they cool off much faster. The electric oven has that giant heating element that takes hours to cool off.
I think convection baking is a more important feature than with the fuel source.

Get what you think you'll be happy with and most likely you'll be happy with it.

Max06 said:

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I've heard natural gas is >>> LP is kinda tied with electric. Not really punched out about induction due to having to replace A LOT of cookware..

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I'd wager a large sum that whoever told you that is a lousy cook. LP is just as good as NG with the right stove. I do agree that dual fuel is the way to go for the oven. Electric completely sucks ass unless you're talking Induction and if you're thinking long term sacrificing cheap aluminum cookware is a small price to pay because Induction is right up there with Gas/LP

Who says I'm not also a lousy cook? Haha.

Just going off what I've heard- LP doesnt get as hot as LNG(?) I do like the adjustability of LP, like the baking features of electric. So maybe duel fuel is the answer. I'll have to look more into those.

Max06 said:

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Who says I'm not also a lousy cook? Haha.

Just going off what I've heard- LP doesnt get as hot as LNG(?) I do like the adjustability of LP, like the baking features of electric. So maybe duel fuel is the answer. I'll have to look more into those.

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Not exactly correct. LP and NG burn at the same temperate of about 3500F but propane is on the order of 2.5 times more energy efficient than NG, at ~2500 BTUs per L vs ~1000 BTUs per L respectively. In the end it takes much less propane by volume. NG is cheaper per volume so at least in my area the actualized cost difference isn't that much. Propane is also a little cleaner burning.

Our neighborhood has piped propane to the house with a meter and it's been fantastic (a few massive tanks throughout the hood). Also has furnace and water on LP and chose to go with electric oven.

But isn't it pretty standard for most ranges to have lower BTU if using a propane conversion? Like this thermador.

https://files.bbystatic.com/SCPefRhD3rXFhYppTS29qA%3D%3D/485FD674-DEF5-495F-9D10-C4B90CA8D12F.pdf

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Who says I'm not also a lousy cook? Haha.

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I was goin off of the "I've heard" statement. I assumed you meant other people, not the voices in your head

I'll add one more thing about Induction. Induction is going to actually beat or draw even to most Gas ranges up until you hit the high end brands like Blue Star, Thermador, and Wolf.

Yep, good point. I think this is a case of ranges being mostly optimized for NG. Some appear to do the conversion better than others.

I've had gas and electric cooktops and ovens. I can't weigh in on LP vs NG but I'll echo what's been said. Gas is preferred for cooktops and electric for ovens. I've never used induction but it should be looked at as well. I'd personally get a gas cooktop with 4 burners and built in griddle if I was in the market. The bigger issue for me would be making sure I have dual ovens and at least one of them needs to have convection. The house we have now has that and I use convection all the time, going back to a single oven wouldn't be good. Also, if I was building a house I would have the cooktop on an island, not against the wall. The ovens are next to the cooktop, which is next to the sink, which is next to the dishwasher. The kitchen is decent size but the layout can make it feel cramped when there's even two people in there.

Be aware that some gas ovens come configured for NG. The LP orifices are different than NG. My range came with both sets, but I had change them when it arrived. Pain in the ass to change 10 of them.

And I'd prefer nothing in the island….I'd also prefer just 6 burners if doing 36" or less.

We have induction and I love the functionality of it. We remodeled two years ago and if gas was already run I would have probably gone gas for the more classic look, but really, for how we use it, the induction top is better. It's incredible how easy it is to clean since the surface doesn't get that hot and burn spills and splatters (our first house had a regular glass cooktop and I hated it with a passion).

Cast iron (bare and enameled) and stainless work great on it.

Looks like we're probably going to go with a Cafe CHS950P2MS1

https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/CHS950P2MS1.html

Can't justify running LP solely for the stove, so induction it is. I had a double oven like this in my last house and really loved it. Looking forward to having one again.

Out of curiosity what was the cost to run LP lines for the stove?

Going to build on some family land and no NG lines anywhere close so considering a propane tank setup for stove and fireplace.

bam02 said:

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We have induction and I love the functionality of it. We remodeled two years ago and if gas was already run I would have probably gone gas for the more classic look, but really, for how we use it, the induction top is better. It's incredible how easy it is to clean since the surface doesn't get that hot and burn spills and splatters (our first house had a regular glass cooktop and I hated it with a passion).

Cast iron (bare and enameled) and stainless work great on it.

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We built and went induction, but included an LP stub underneath if we ever wanted to switch.

For us, induction worked with our cookware, and since the unit doesn't heat anything that isn't metal and will auto shut off if it doesn't detect metal after 15 seconds or so, it was a nice safety feature in the house with kids who were tall enough to reach but not old enough to know better.

AgsMyDude said:

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Out of curiosity what was the cost to run LP lines for the stove?

Going to build on some family land and no NG lines anywhere close so considering a propane tank setup for stove and fireplace.

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Do yourself a favor and lay it out so the propane tank is on the same side of the house as where your electric panel is on the outside.
If you ever want to install a LP generator, it really sucks when they're on opposite corners of the house.

I'm not sure on the cost for just that. We have our tankless water heaters on LP, and the stub for the cooktop.

docaggie said:

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AgsMyDude said:

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Out of curiosity what was the cost to run LP lines for the stove?

Going to build on some family land and no NG lines anywhere close so considering a propane tank setup for stove and fireplace.

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Do yourself a favor and lay it out so the propane tank is on the same side of the house as where your electric panel is on the outside.
If you ever want to install a LP generator, it really sucks when they're on opposite corners of the house.

I'm not sure on the cost for just that. We have our tankless water heaters on LP, and the stub for the cooktop.

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Oh yeah good idea. I was considering eventually adding a generator like that so I'll keep the location in mind for sure

I think Induction would be what I'd go with. If I had pots that weren't Induction compatible, I'd buy one of those disk adapters so that those pots would work like they would on a regular electric stove.

We had a thermador gas range priror to our induction range. Love induction. The power is great, but the perfect control over low temp cooking can't be rivaled.

Gas cooktop all the way. Electric sucks

Electric does suck. But induction does not and it's comparable to gas.

I will never, ever, have an electric stovetop again. They suck in every imaginable way possible.

LP, nat gas....doesn't really matter. Propane carries more BTU's than nat gas does, but if you have the ability to tie into a nat gas line....go with nat gas for the availability of supply all day, every day. I have propane out in the country and wish the developer had tied into the natural gas main running through my front yard. Instead I have to fill up a couple of times a year with my tank, and it's just one of those little aggravations to deal with.

You can also still cook on a gas stove in the event of a power outage, which is a nice feature to have, even if it is a rare occurrence.

As others have said - oven needs to be electric. Way better baking capabilities than gas, cooks more even and you don't have moisture issues that you have with gas. Not that a gas oven is all that bad, just that electric is better.

schmellba99 said:

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I will never, ever, have an electric stovetop again. They suck in every imaginable way possible.

LP, nat gas....doesn't really matter. Propane carries more BTU's than nat gas does, but if you have the ability to tie into a nat gas line....go with nat gas for the availability of supply all day, every day. I have propane out in the country and wish the developer had tied into the natural gas main running through my front yard. Instead I have to fill up a couple of times a year with my tank, and it's just one of those little aggravations to deal with.

You can also still cook on a gas stove in the event of a power outage, which is a nice feature to have, even if it is a rare occurrence.

As others have said - oven needs to be electric. Way better baking capabilities than gas, cooks more even and you don't have moisture issues that you have with gas. Not that a gas oven is all that bad, just that electric is better.

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With your tank is there a system that tracks usage (i.e. a meter of sorts) to know when you are getting low?

AgsMyDude said:

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Out of curiosity what was the cost to run LP lines for the stove?

Going to build on some family land and no NG lines anywhere close so considering a propane tank setup for stove and fireplace.

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Think I spent around $600 to run a gas line from the range to a point about 12 ft to the back of the house. I have 2 - 100lb DOT tanks. Biggest I can manhanle.

AgsMyDude said:

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schmellba99 said:

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I will never, ever, have an electric stovetop again. They suck in every imaginable way possible.

LP, nat gas....doesn't really matter. Propane carries more BTU's than nat gas does, but if you have the ability to tie into a nat gas line....go with nat gas for the availability of supply all day, every day. I have propane out in the country and wish the developer had tied into the natural gas main running through my front yard. Instead I have to fill up a couple of times a year with my tank, and it's just one of those little aggravations to deal with.

You can also still cook on a gas stove in the event of a power outage, which is a nice feature to have, even if it is a rare occurrence.

As others have said - oven needs to be electric. Way better baking capabilities than gas, cooks more even and you don't have moisture issues that you have with gas. Not that a gas oven is all that bad, just that electric is better.

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With your tank is there a system that tracks usage (i.e. a meter of sorts) to know when you are getting low?

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https://www.nee-vo.com/

I have one of these, sold and installed by the propane company.
I can check levels anywhere, and set alarms for when it hits certain levels. It will notify me when filled.
Don't remember the cost, but think it was in the 250 range

Fantastic, bookmarked

Thanks

AgsMyDude said:

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schmellba99 said:

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I will never, ever, have an electric stovetop again. They suck in every imaginable way possible.

LP, nat gas....doesn't really matter. Propane carries more BTU's than nat gas does, but if you have the ability to tie into a nat gas line....go with nat gas for the availability of supply all day, every day. I have propane out in the country and wish the developer had tied into the natural gas main running through my front yard. Instead I have to fill up a couple of times a year with my tank, and it's just one of those little aggravations to deal with.

You can also still cook on a gas stove in the event of a power outage, which is a nice feature to have, even if it is a rare occurrence.

As others have said - oven needs to be electric. Way better baking capabilities than gas, cooks more even and you don't have moisture issues that you have with gas. Not that a gas oven is all that bad, just that electric is better.

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With your tank is there a system that tracks usage (i.e. a meter of sorts) to know when you are getting low?

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Me walking over to it once a month or so and checking the gauge.

AgsMyDude said:

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Out of curiosity what was the cost to run LP lines for the stove?

Going to build on some family land and no NG lines anywhere close so considering a propane tank setup for stove and fireplace.

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If you are doing it when you build, it's cheap because it is easy to do. Less than a grand in most cases.

docaggie said:

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AgsMyDude said:

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schmellba99 said:

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I will never, ever, have an electric stovetop again. They suck in every imaginable way possible.

LP, nat gas....doesn't really matter. Propane carries more BTU's than nat gas does, but if you have the ability to tie into a nat gas line....go with nat gas for the availability of supply all day, every day. I have propane out in the country and wish the developer had tied into the natural gas main running through my front yard. Instead I have to fill up a couple of times a year with my tank, and it's just one of those little aggravations to deal with.

You can also still cook on a gas stove in the event of a power outage, which is a nice feature to have, even if it is a rare occurrence.

As others have said - oven needs to be electric. Way better baking capabilities than gas, cooks more even and you don't have moisture issues that you have with gas. Not that a gas oven is all that bad, just that electric is better.

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With your tank is there a system that tracks usage (i.e. a meter of sorts) to know when you are getting low?

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https://www.nee-vo.com/

I have one of these, sold and installed by the propane company.
I can check levels anywhere, and set alarms for when it hits certain levels. It will notify me when filled.
Don't remember the cost, but think it was in the 250 range

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Would be interested in something like this, especially if it doesn't tie me to a supplier. I own my tank and when it is time to fill I generally shop around for the best deal with the handful of suppliers that deliver to my neighborhood.

I own my own tank also, but use the same supplier (where I got this) because of their customer service and the fact that they're local.
When snowmagedon happened and our neighborhood was without power for 5 days, they made deliveries to us.