Salutes for Civilians

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rgleml
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I understand that the President is the Commander in Chief and is saluted. I just noticed that the airmen next to the air stairs for Air Force 2 are saluting when VP Harris boards. Why would she deserve a salute?
CT'97
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The big picture answer is because our military is established with civilian control and thus we render honors to leadership of the civilian government.

The detailed answer is there is a long list of elected civilian leadership who are due honors from the military. The secretary of defense, secretaries of the branches, president of the senate, speaker of the house, chairs of committee's, etc. The list is long and would take a PAO and probably the AR to reference them all in the correct order.
Texas A&M - 148 years of tradition, unimpeded by progress.
CanyonAg77
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Definitely a case of salute the rank, not the person
dead
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Ok, Dick Winters
some of yall need to take a break from texags before the internet brain worms set in for good
OldArmyCT
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There's no requirement to salute the VP. There is also no requirement for either the VP or President to return a salute. My guess is the commander of the honors detachment, at some level, decided saluting her was easier than having to explain why they didn't...time after time after...
Vepp
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Army: AR 600-25

Short answer: she should be rendered honors and saluted when visiting a military installation

Long answer: who knows what orders or policy the honor guards follows. CO's are obsessed with adding to.. because they can't take away. /Bitter Former NCO
chance_bitters
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You're supposed to salute everyone in the Chain of Command. we had to render honors to the Sec Nav when he boarded the ship.
CanyonAg77
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OldArmyCT said:

There's no requirement to salute the VP. There is also no requirement for either the VP or President to return a salute. My guess is the commander of the honors detachment, at some level, decided saluting her was easier than having to explain why they didn't...time after time after...

I believe it was Reagan, who asked the Chairman of the Joint Chief how he should respond to salutes. Chairman simply replied that you're the Commander in Chief, so whatever you feel is appropriate.

Reagan started returning the salutes, and it became tradition.
Get Off My Lawn
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Just like flags going half-mast: when you let politicians control military ceremonies, they will abuse them to stroke their egos and those of their friends.
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