Army Reserve & Guard Deployment Lengths

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The Last Cobra Commander
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I was active duty for 5 years and have been cruising in the IRR for 5 years. I always thought reservists and guardsmen couldn't be deployed for over 1 year. I also thought they were required to give "timely" notice to their employers of any duty.

Question: my wife is a principal and a teacher shows up this week and tells my wife she's deploying for 400 days and is leaving next week. WTF!!! I think the teacher is full of it and trying to scam the system. Could I be wrong? Is one week timely?

Steps I've taken:
-told wife to find out specific unit teacher is in.
- told to wife to find out names and phone numbers of first-line leader and commander of teacher... "So she can keep up with their deployment and FRG groups."

Any other thoughts???
APHIS AG
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Unless she volunteered for a specific assignment, units know way in advance when they deploy. Your wife should ask for a copy of her orders. If their are no orders, their is no deployment.
Teslag
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Teslag
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My husband is in the Army Reserve and he was called to deploy in 2013. The deployment was for 9 months but his orders stated 400 days. They were told this was standard in the reserve in case they are needed longer they don't have to extend orders. They were given about 9 months notice. When they lost a few to medical issues at Ft Hood during SRP they had to pull some fill ins from other units in the brigade and those poor guys deployed with about 3 to 4 weeks notice. One of the supply clerks deployed with 5 days notice.

Basically, it's entirely possible the teacher is telling the truth and it's probably wise to leave well enough alone. After all, you can always verify it on the DOD SCRA website

https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/scra/single_record.xhtml
Tango Mike
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Why on earth would you stay in the IRR for 5 years??
Swing Your Saber
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My husband is in the Army Reserve and he was called to deploy in 2013. The deployment was for 9 months but his orders stated 400 days. They were told this was standard in the reserve in case they are needed longer they don't have to extend orders. They were given about 9 months notice. When they lost a few to medical issues at Ft Hood during SRP they had to pull some fill ins from other units in the brigade and those poor guys deployed with about 3 to 4 weeks notice. One of the supply clerks deployed with 5 days notice.

Basically, it's entirely possible the teacher is telling the truth and it's probably wise to leave well enough alone. After all, you can always verify it on the DOD SCRA website

https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/scra/single_record.xhtml



Friend of mine had a similar situation, he got pulled in with a little less than two weeks notice. Not as bad as 5 days, but still a super short lead time. Between train up & deployment he was gone almost a full year.
Swing Your Saber
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Why on earth would you stay in the IRR for 5 years??


Legitimate question!
The Last Cobra Commander
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Why on earth would you stay in the IRR for 5 years??


Legitimate question!


Just waiting on WWIII
JT05
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You are required to receive 30 days notice, but you can waive the right to that notice. Additionally, as somebody else mentioned, units mobilizing in the guard and reserve typically know months and months (often times a year plus) in advance that a deployment is coming. I would definitely get the commander and first sergeant/NCOIC's phone number and call to just verify all the information is legit. And also, most of the orders will say not to exceed 400 days. The actual deployment will probably not be near that long, although when you factor in premob training it could get close.
Teslag
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You are required to receive 30 days notice


That isn't accurate.

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]4. When is prior notice to the civilian employer required? How is such notice to be given?

The person who is performing the service (or an official representative of the uniformed service) must give advance written or verbal notice to the employer. The notice requirement applies to all categories of training or service. Notice is not required if precluded by military necessity or, if the giving of such notice is otherwise impossible or unreasonable.


A determination of military necessity shall be made pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Department of Defense. It is reasonable to expect that situations where notice is not required will be rare. The law does not specify how much advance notice is required, but the Department of Defense advises members of the National Guard and Reserve that they should provide their employers as much advance notice as they can. (Section 4312).
86sq6
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Deployment orders may state 400 days, but that probably includes pre-mobilization training, actual boots on ground and post-mob days. When I deployed, that's what my Title 10 orders covered.
JT05
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You are required to receive 30 days notice


That isn't accurate.

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]4. When is prior notice to the civilian employer required? How is such notice to be given?

The person who is performing the service (or an official representative of the uniformed service) must give advance written or verbal notice to the employer. The notice requirement applies to all categories of training or service. Notice is not required if precluded by military necessity or, if the giving of such notice is otherwise impossible or unreasonable.


A determination of military necessity shall be made pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Department of Defense. It is reasonable to expect that situations where notice is not required will be rare. The law does not specify how much advance notice is required, but the Department of Defense advises members of the National Guard and Reserve that they should provide their employers as much advance notice as they can. (Section 4312).

You are correct. I shouldn't have used "required" but, in most cases you will know well in advance of 30 days. It is always subject to the needs of the military.

In regulations promulgated by the Department of Defense under USERRA, 32 CFR 104.6(a)(2)(i)(B), the Defense Department strongly recommends that advance notice to civilian employers be provided at least 30 days prior to departure for uniformed service when it is feasible to do so, but USERRA does not specify any minimum period of notice. Circumstances arise, especially in a mobilization scenario, when the individual has very little advance notice from military authorities. USERRA's legislative history indicates that Congress intended that the lateness of the notice to the civilian employer should not defeat the right to reemployment, especially when the individual had little or no notice from the military.
Complaint Investigator
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My husband is in the Army Reserve and he was called to deploy in 2013. The deployment was for 9 months but his orders stated 400 days. They were told this was standard in the reserve in case they are needed longer they don't have to extend orders. They were given about 9 months notice. When they lost a few to medical issues at Ft Hood during SRP they had to pull some fill ins from other units in the brigade and those poor guys deployed with about 3 to 4 weeks notice. One of the supply clerks deployed with 5 days notice.

Basically, it's entirely possible the teacher is telling the truth and it's probably wise to leave well enough alone. After all, you can always verify it on the DOD SCRA website

https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/scra/single_record.xhtml

Please keep in mind, this website does not always work.
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