Before CCA, What was it like?

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HuslinOne70
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What was it like before CCA came into existence?

First of all, it is not a charitable organization, but rather a “not for profit” organization to promote, support and grow the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M.

In about 1990, the university had grown to over 35,000. The Corps strength had declined to around 2,000. Between 1966-1970, the university enrollment fluctuated upward from about 9500 to 11,500. The Corps strength fluctuated downward between 3400 to 2850.

As a representation of the student body, the percentage of cadets to total students dropped from approximately 35% to 5.7% during the same 20 year period. Prior to 1970, if you encountered a former student, the first thing you would normally ask is what outfit were you in? By 1980 it was “were you in the Corps?” By 1990 it was “what is the corps”

General Darling saw a need for recruiting prospective cadets into the Corps. The Corps had no formal recruiting arm, thus the CLO (Corps Leadership Outreach) was formed consisting of former cadets who volunteered their time to visit high school college fairs and counselors.

Realizing the Corps had no material in the way of brochures and the Former students provided inadequate funding and seemed to lack interest in general in growing the Corps, a volunteer stepped forward on his own and formed the CCA. Prior to this time, there was no formal organization dedicated solely to promoting and growing the Corps. Neither was there a data base of former cadets.

The CCA started out on a shoe sting budget consisting of dedicated volunteers desiring to promote the Corps, its growth, continuation and camaraderie. The organization has grown from a handful of former students in 1993 to what it is today. Unlike the academies or other military colleges, CCA competes with the Former Students, Foundation and 12th Man for dollars generally missing out on the larger capital bequests. Most of the revenue is generated from membership dues at several levels. For this privilege, members are able to access the CCA web page which contains current Corps info, numerous data bases, membership rosters, photos and videos. Additionally, members receive a quarterly copy of the GUIDON magazine.

Having been involved in Corps recruiting since the early 1990’s, I can attest to the generosity of CCA in providing funds for Corps brochures, advertising, and other support. I have never made a request of CCA that wasn’t answered, and I assure you, every Commandant from General Darling to present can attest to the value that CCA has contributed to the growth and sustenance of the Corps


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Ryan the Temp
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it is not a charitable organization
This is a false statement.
CT'97
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you asking a question or running a recruiting campaign?
OldArmy71
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So can we see the promised recalculation of expenditures so that we can tell if more than 12 cents on the dollar is going to the Corps?
HuslinOne70
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quote:
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it is not a charitable organization
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This is a false statement

THE STATEMENT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE. Olarmy 71, I suggest you call and talk to the CEO of the CCA rather than misreprent what goes to the Corps out of the revenues.
CanyonAg77
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Olarmy 71, I suggest you call and talk to the CEO of the CCA rather than misreprent what goes to the Corps out of the revenues.

What misrepresentation? The legal documents filed by the CCA say that only 12% goes to direct support.

I suggest you read those, or encourage CCA to give us an accounting that would explain this low apparent level of support.
CT'97
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HuslinOne, are you here to defend the CCA?
Do you work for the CCA or were you in any way to come here and represent them?
BeBopAg
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Look it's all kinda simple.

Before advent of the CCA there was no organized PR outreach push for a "charitable cash flow" going to the Cadet Corps, or for varied Corps sponsored projects.

You gave $100 to an outfit fund, or say like to the FTAB Fund, and most likely 100% of your donation reached that particular organization or project (that is, if The Aggie Code of Honor was really in play).

In addition to the 12th Man Association and Association of Former Students along comes a ground swell of Texas A&M organizations who suddenly start organized competition with each other for that charitable minded (tax deductable) student, or former students dollar. Everybody had a mailing list.

Why, the Texas A&M Foundation even sends out teams to senior citizen Ag homes with ah pretty smooth and sophiscated endownment pitch. Great little publication of theirs too.

All power to all of 'em too (as long as they get-off-of-the-dime of a $12 direct recipient usage per $100 gift figure).

P.S.
Bop also gives annually to Heifer Project and is now the proud animal step-father donor (according to animal husbandry reproduction and survival tables) of 16,832 rabbits born, nutured, reared and digested in rural Eastern Europe. Passing on the gift (as far as an animal recipient's Code of Honor and contractual promise) has been working for Heifer since 1944.
Rabbit burgers ain't bad if you know how to fix'em.

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HuslinOne70
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In response to CT97, I do not work for CCA, I only pay anuual dues. I volunteer several hundred hours a your through the ACR (Aggie Corps Recruiting) as a regional coordinator coverig 11 counties in central Texas.

I call on numerous High School counselors and man a table at numerous college fairs representing the Corps. I have never collected money for travel or even a postage stamp.

There are several hundred volunteers in the ACR like myself. We put Corps of Cadets brochures or at least try to in every high school in the state.

These are all paid for by the CCA who furnish them to the Commandant's office. The expense is considered as an administrative expense as I understand it. In reality, it is direct support to the Corps.

I am not a hired gun to defend CCA, I just hate to see a worthwhile organization get beat up by a bunch of ill-informed people who are just looking for something to tear down.
OldArmy71
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a bunch of ill-informed people who are just looking for something to tear down.



First of all, thank you for all your volunteer work for the Corps.

Secondly, in reading all the posts on this issue, I have not seen in any the urge "to tear down" anything. People have asked for information. Not much has been forthcoming. If you have so much money to give out that you don't care whether it is given wisely or not, that's your business. Most people probably want to make sure that their money is donated wisely.
HuslinOne70
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There have not been anyone on this post trying to tear down the CCA; however, there is another thread in this forum doing just that. All I was trying to do was enlighten the board from a volunteer prospective what it was like before we had a support organization like CCA. Former Students gave us nothing, neither did the Foundation.

If you are concerned about the propiety of the CCA, I wouldn't invest the $25 membership fee either.
CT'97
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I am a member of the CCA and will continue to be.

I also have questions about the expenditures of the CCA and ensuring that the most goes to actually supporting the Corps.

To your original post, you did a poor job and should have simply stated what your intent was.
mcrews
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wow....
Huslinone made a GREAT point......which is ignored.......

The brochures...THAT SUPPORT THE CORPS!!!! DUHHHHH>>>>>>>>>
are an admin expense.

The 12% is the CASH given to the Corps.
I would bet that 50% of the budget "SUPPORTS THE CORPS"
IlliniAg11
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Really guys this again! There is already a thread devoted to this back and forth!
bqaggie86
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Your the one that pulled this thread back up. There had not been any post to this thread for a week.
IlliniAg11
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Whoops didn't notice that..... My bad....
Comeby!
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HuslinOne,
Thank you for your work in supporting and recruiting for the Corps.
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