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Behr Marquee Paint-What did I do wrong?

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ME92
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I'm re-doing my master bathroom and just got through painting the ceiling and walls with Behr Marquee paint. It took two coats and the full gallon of paint to get coverage. The first coat didn't get into the texture in the rolled areas and was streaky in the cut in areas.

Because the Marquee paint comes with a one-coat guarantee I figure that I did something wrong with preparing the walls or applying the paint. Does anybody have any ideas where I went wrong?

Here are some details about the project.
Room size: 6' by 9'
Wall texture: Pretty smooth like a orange skin
Original wall color: November skies from Benjamin Moore applied around 2005 with a light sheen
Wall prep: Lightly scrubbed the walls with a TSP solution and then rinsed with clean water.
Application: Foam roller with 3/8" nap used for big areas and brush with "100% china black" bristles used to cut in
New paint color: Off-white
No primer used
91AggieLawyer
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I don't like Behr in the first place, and while I'm nowhere near the world's most experienced painter, my dozen or so painting projects taught me to primer EVERY TIME, regardless of what I'm covering up. Primer is cheaper than paint and is a no-brainer for color changes of any kind, even going from light to dark.
PeekingDuck
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Not being flippant here. Behr sucks. I did a bunch of painting in my last house and the difference between SW and Behr is insane. That's the main thing you did wrong. You bought Behr.
GtownRAB
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It's a lot to do with the roller cover. On texture, use a minimum of a 1/2" nap, probably even 3/4". The rougher the surface, the thicker the nap.

Also the quality of the roller cover matters. Foam rollers don't hold much paint. Cheap roller covers will absorb a lot of paint but not release it. It just gets heavier as you go.

A good quality roller cover will probably start around $6-7 each and go up to $14-15 or depending on the kind.

And the one coat coverage thing is pure marketing BS. The fine print will tell you in certain situations you need to prime.
1988PA-Aggie
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I hate to pile on...but choice of paint likely figures heavily.

This past weekend I painted our master bedroom. Approximately 16'x20', two medium windows and a few doors took up some wall space. I used Ben Moore Aura matte finish. Had some patching to do, only primed those areas, not the whole room. Was covering up a medium green, new color was a light grayish/beige. Used 3/4 gallon at most, one coat.

I don't know what Behr costs, the Aura where I am costs about $65/gal. I think it is easy to justify a few bucks more for a gallon of paint if I get away with just one coat.
JP76
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ME92 said:

I'm re-doing my master bathroom and just got through painting the ceiling and walls with Behr Marquee paint. It took two coats and the full gallon of paint to get coverage. The first coat didn't get into the texture in the rolled areas and was streaky in the cut in areas.

Because the Marquee paint comes with a one-coat guarantee I figure that I did something wrong with preparing the walls or applying the paint. Does anybody have any ideas where I went wrong?

Here are some details about the project.
Room size: 6' by 9'
Wall texture: Pretty smooth like a orange skin
Original wall color: November skies from Benjamin Moore applied around 2005 with a light sheen
Wall prep: Lightly scrubbed the walls with a TSP solution and then rinsed with clean water.
Application: Foam roller with 3/8" nap used for big areas and brush with "100% china black" bristles used to cut in
New paint color: Off-white
No primer used




Behr interior paint is terrible
The exterior is a great product though
You converted from a light blue to off white ?
If so pretty much zero chance that will cover on one coat with any brand paint rolling and brushing. Sherwin Williams pro mar 400 is my preference for interior wall and ceiling paint.

You used the wrong type and size of roller cover. For walls you want at least a 1/2 inch roller and never foam . My preference is this

https://www.purdy.com/products/rollers/colossus/colossus/


Also a China bristle brush is for oil based paints, stains and clears

For latex paint you want to use a nylon brush such as this


https://www.lowes.com/pd/Purdy-Nylox-Glide-Nylon-Angle-2-in-Paint-Brush/1000506109



Milwaukees Best Light
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I like Behr. I hate shermin williams. He sucks.

Read the paint can to see the recommended roller and brush. Also ask the person at the counter. Nothing is really one coat without primer, unless you put it on the wall with a mop. Don't buy house brand rollers or brushes. Find the most expensive ones they have and buy the one that is one notch cheaper. And F SW.
GrimesCoAg95
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JP76 has the tools right. Use a good roller (not foam) and a nylon brush. I like Purdy for both. Your coverage issues were that you were not getting a good coat on the wall.

He also recommended ProMar 400. I like Promar 200 better for bathrooms, as it has anti-microbial agents.

https://www.sherwin-williams.com/painting-contractors/products/promar-200-zero-voc-interior-latex

chick79
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Behr is the worst paint on the market. Go with Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore.
BrazosDog02
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If it were me, I'd stick with Behr since that's what you are in this gig with. I'd also head over to Home Depot and complain and see if they will swap it out with a new gallon. I would repeat this process until the coverage and result was achieved per my tastes.
BadMoonRisin
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Damn, I used Behr marquee on most of my interior rooms and it worked really well. Granted, I was covering up some light sand type beige color which isnt very vibrant, but it worked great.

I also used their new Behr Dynasty product, which is Marquee plus a scuff resistant coat and painted the rest of my house with it and it went on beautifully...

All of the colors I have used have been dark compared to the cheap ass builder **** underneath. Sounds like your issue is you were trying to cover up a darkish grey color with an off-white.

I have not tried to go from darker to lighter, but I would imagine that causes problems. They still market it as one coat, no primer needed so....
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tgivaughn
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A good question for "The Money Pit" radio show or
someone that LOVEs to paint = not me but
decades of advice overheard, the only thing missing is
"No primer used"

More free advice @ Benjamin Moore, the longest top-drawer paint shop in town that also carries the very best brands that ARE actually "one coat", as submitted by our top interior decorators/designers. My fav brand in the day was a scrubable DEVOE
They can tell you - what's next ....

FYI: Paint expires! Always have someone with expire code to advise.
Ten words or less ... a goal unattainable
ME92
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Thanks for all of the replies and advice.

It looks like I did a whole bunch wrong but the main two things were not priming and using the wrong application tools.

I'll do better next time. Enjoy y'all's weekend!
c-jags
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I am not a fan of Behr, but I am an HD guy due to proximity and bad experiences with Lowes in the past.

I almost always would prefer PPG, SW, or Benjamin Moore to Behr but the last few times I went in they didn't have the PPG/Glidden so I went with Behr and was pretty disappointed.

Last weekend I went in to get some paint to paint brick and concrete (yes, I hate painted brick and concrete but somebody before me in the 80s painted brick and concrete green so I've had to cover it up a few times.) and all they had was the $48/gallon behr exterior and I was actually impressed with its coverage.

Still don't like Behr.
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