AgLA06 said:
BrazosDog02 said:
Well, it's brittle. It ages poorly. When it springs a leak it splits and quickly becomes catastrophic failure. It's pretty much like putting vinyl seats in a lambo. I don't consider it a quality product when you have copper and pex available. It just surprised me, that's all.
I thought that could only happen if exposed to sunlight for years.
That may be the case. I'm not here to argue it one way or the other. Mostly, my point is why not use copper in a home whose purchaser can easily afford it? Is finding a decent plumber that can sweat joints hard? Why not PEX? Why use the cheapest product you can find on the most expensive homes you are building? That's really the crux of my question. We aren't installing Kenmore appliances that are 'good enough'. We aren't putting in builder grade AC systems. So why are we putting in CPVC?
Again, I am truly trying to understand. Obviously, my opinion is that I refuse to have a home without copper lines and I will happily pay for it. But that doesn't make my opinion right. I just have witnessed plastic degradation on my own projects over the course of 10 years, properly installed, with the proper adhesives, and it makes me nervous as all hell that something like that would be running INSIDE a home.
I have had one failure in 15 years with copper, and it was due purely to a poorly seated coupler that was in a tight spot. It wasnt push down all the way and the solder was thin. So, maybe that it part of the issue...finding skilled labor to sweat a joint is hard? I fixed it myself, so it isn't THAT hard.
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This is the first I've heard all these negatives about CPVC. I've used it for mods and miscellaneous projects myself and I know it meets codes. I haven't experienced or heard of the problems you listed. Where did you hear of these?
I just found this stuff when doing a quick google search because it bothered me, but these prompted my question here.
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/plumbers-warn-of-cpvc-piping-problems_20151105190735671http://www.plumbermag.com/how-to-articles/corporation_lubrizol_pipe_materials/potential_plumbing_problems_lurking_in_wallshttp://www.plasticpipefailure.com/blog/2016/5/14/why-do-cpvc-pipes-turn-brittlehttp://forums.finehomebuilding.com/breaktime/energy-heating-insulation/down-side-cpvc