Didn"t the Aggies say that VY can"t pass?

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notanaggiefan
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Selected plays from 2004, when Texas was a one dimensional running team,

@Arkansas:
VY to Thomas, 41 yards
VY to Jeffery, 32 yards

Rice:
VY to Thomas, 30 yards

Baylor:
VY to Nate Jones, 36 yards

OU:
VY to Sweed, 32 yards

Tech:
VY to Jeffery, 43 yards

OSU:
VY to Thomas, 28 yards
VY to Sweed, 36 yards

KU:
VY to Jeffery, 40 yards

Michigan:
VY to Scaife, 21 yards

Note that these numbers include no yards-after-catch, only yards in the air. On average, VY completes about one pass per game that spans 25 or more yards through the air. He also completed many passes in the 15-20 yard range but apparently real QB's throw farther than that so I didn't include them. The good news for Texas' opponents is that the majority of the players on the receiving end of those passes are returning this season so that VY can continue not passing down the field to them.

If you are projecting an A&M win based on Texas not passing I think you are going to be rudely awakened to a different reality come T+1.
env788
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surf
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god i can't wait till the games start
bknetag
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so in 12 games (bowl included) he had 10 total good throws and you are saying he is good?
George Strait
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For the Love of God, please make it stop. This is a never ending cycle of BS.
AgLaw
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No decent completions in the Mo. game? Oh, yeah. That's because he only had a total of 14 yards. My bad. Carry on.
Hostile_Aggie
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Worst....thread....ever.....
CMack11
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Didn"t the Aggies say that VY can"t pass?


PS--so did Mack Brown. He has said more than once that texas' biggest problem last year was passing the ball downfield.
surf
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bknetag
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this is such a great example of self ownership that I had to post twice just to make sure I was seeing this correctly.
13 0 Branding Iron
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Just think... if t.u.'s passing game sucked this bad with everybody keying on C-Bong it is REALLY going to suck with everybody keying on Radio.
CMack11
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When I heard Mack's comments acout their downfield passing on the longhorns FLAGSHIP STATION one day I almost wrecked my truck.
LestatBQ02
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How many of those passes were to the TE?
George Strait
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Lestat-

I am a horn I think this is a bad car wreck that everyone slows to look at, please don't try to make this into a rational discussion.
Bonfire1996
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This is the funiest thread I have ever read. On Reggie's various highlight reels, he surpasses these numbers in about 22 seconds.
notanaggiefan
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so in 12 games (bowl included) he had 10 total good throws and you are saying he is good?


I only included the longer plays he completed, the ones that when completed by your opponent make you switch from thinking you can force them to punt to hoping you hold them to just a FG. For each of those are 1 or 2 more in the 10-20 yard range.

In some of those games he threw a few as 15 passes. I'm not saying he is an objectively good passer, I am simply saying that depending on VY to not be a credible passing threat will prove to be a costly mistake.
bknetag
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uh huh.
TAMU98AG
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notanaggiefan
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How many of those passes were to the TE?


Does it really matter? Is a 30 yard pass down the field to a TE somehow different than a 30 yard pass down the field to a WR?

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On Reggie's various highlight reels, he surpasses these numbers in about 22 seconds.


I know this is going to come as a shock but this isn't a VY vs RM thread. The whole point was to counter the belief by so many here that Texas is doomed this season because teams will load up to stop the run without having to fear getting burned by VY passing the ball.

[This message has been edited by notanaggiefan (edited 8/1/2005 3:12p).]
Mister T-Shirt
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Just another in the infinite amount of posts showing t.u. is trying their damndest to convince everyone else Radio can indeed pass.

Nevermind the fact that the VAST majority of anyone outside of Asstin knows he hasn't proven otherwise.



R.R. - "How excited are you about playing football in Texas?"
J.C. - "I'n weary weally exciteb..id's like a undle for the university of the uh, um, State ob Tessis..."
PlanoGuy
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Selected plays from 2004, when Texas was a one dimensional running team,
Against OU, VY was 8-23 for 86 yards. Real F'ing impressive!



“Now that we’ve lost to OU four times in a row, it has gotten huge. But it’s really not about me.” Mack Brown at the 2004 Big XII Media Day

"I'm responsible for this team, so if we lose it's my responsibility" Mack Brown after 5th straight loss to OU
Mister T-Shirt
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I also noticed the dumbass didn't post any passing stats from the Mizzou game.



R.R. - "How excited are you about playing football in Texas?"
J.C. - "I'n weary weally exciteb..id's like a undle for the university of the uh, um, State ob Tessis..."
LestatBQ02
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Does it really matter? Is a 30 yard pass down the field to a TE somehow different than a 30 yard pass down the field to a WR?



I would say yes...how many of those passes to TE's do you think were Play-Action (ie they faked running the ball)
AgGrad99
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Selected plays from 2004


I started laughing right then.
notanaggiefan
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would say yes...how many of those passes to TE's do you think were Play-Action (ie they faked running the ball)


Why? Does it matter? If the point is to move the ball downfield it doesn't matter it is a drop back pump fake or a timed route. All that really matters, at least from Texas' point of view, is that the offense be able to run underneath when the pass is being covered and pass over the top when the run is being covered. From opponents' point of view Texas is much more difficult to defend if it is the TE catching the passes because Texas will put the same personnel on the field for straight ahead rushing plays, zone reads or passes to a TE.

BTW...6 of those long passes were to WR's, not TE's, including a beautiful pump fake against OSU that froze the DB and released Jeffery.
Guy on a Buffalo
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surf
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raging
NAS
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Yes, we did say that, and we're sticking by our story.
13 0 Branding Iron
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Newsflash moron: nobody is biting on play action without C-Bong in the backfield. Defenses didn't even bother to cover your TEs last year... this year will be very different for Radio and the rest of the burned orange pumpkins.
bknetag
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download this video. Right click and then "save as"

http://www.aggies9496.com/Images/Videos/TheRealDeal2004.wmv

the first half is runs. then pay close attention to the second half. look at those bullets of over 40 yards. missles, rockets, frozen ropes. All right where they needed to be.
bblake06
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so in 12 games (bowl included) he had 10 total good throws and you are saying he is good?




I only included the longer plays he completed, the ones that when completed by your opponent make you switch from thinking you can force them to punt to hoping you hold them to just a FG. For each of those are 1 or 2 more in the 10-20 yard range.


According to your math, that's a total of 20-30 good passes all year. Stellar.
digging tunnels
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VY to Scaife, 21 yards


is this something really to brag about? 21 yards?

houstontexan
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no, its reggie that can't pass...or run!
EElloy
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Vince completed 60% of his passes for the entire season, and roughly 68% over the last seven games.

He can pass.
1939....
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please make it go away.
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