http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/stewart_mandel/06/27/cfb.mailbag/index.html

"but he is and always will be a pathetic cat fcuking t-shirt sip that admits to attending concordia." from our friend Timmy regarding you-know who

fran?

I'm surprised that Mack was 10th. He Should be higher.

Leach underrated.....

Maybe he needs more cowbell.....

"2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: He would have been No. 1 this time a year ago, but Carroll unseated him in somewhat embarrassing fashion. While Stoops' once impregnable rep has taken a hit with the past two years' late-season collapses, the fact is his teams have had five consecutive seasons of 11 wins or more and played for three national titles."

Two? How about five? The year they won the MNC, they almost lost late to two teams they should have beaten handily - OSU and A&M.

Stoops is going to memorialize the nickname "Swooners" before he's through. Beating Texas once a year by peaking early in the year ain't gonna get it done.


Uva Uvum Vivendo Varia Fit

I call BS...and yes I read the idiots article....apparently he has to write something to get paid over the dry spell.

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Two? How about five? The year they won the MNC, they almost lost late to two teams they should have beaten handily - OSU and A&M.

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Boy, you really got him there, dub. Could you point out where 'almost losses' are recorded? This is worse than me making fun of Mark Brown becuase of his lack of conference championships.

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Maybe he needs more cowbell.....

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Didn't the bell whacker retire?

Cmack beat me to it.

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Could you point out where 'almost losses' are recorded?

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The same place aggies record almost wins?

Wood

I somewhat agree with LonghornDub.

Stoops OU teams have lost in November/December in games when it appeared they should have won easily.

However, I wouldn't say they peak in Dallas in October. More accurately, Stoops owns Brown in that game.

Years when most observers of college football think the game will be close (and sometimes favor Texas) Stoops wins and makes it look easy. (See: 2003, and 2000 games)

I think OU is not as far ahead of the reat of the Big XII south as perceived, but it's hard to argue with the record. (22-3 against the Big XII south over the last five years.)

The Big XII South is tougher than a $2.00 steak. Winning this division is no mean feat.

CowDog

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There undoubtedly will be many who say Brown should be nowhere near this list because he's yet to actually win any sort of championship, but

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Wow, the group think is especially strong with these two.

So where's the parade going to be when Fran finally gets over .500 at A&M?

They had that parade last year....but then he slipped back into loserville down the strectch. Hopefully the schedule will have enough wins before the annual late season meltdown starts.

loserville? you gotta come with something better than that.

sub.500town?

better, definitely a little better. It needs to be at least a little obscure (a la Dennis Miller)

I agree that Stoops has Brown's number, but I believe he both recruits and plans the development of his team to win on the second Saturday in October. Other OU coaches, including Switzer, said they always did, reasoning that if they could beat Texas, they could win the rest of their games. The flaw is that the OU teams of Stoops unquestionably fade at the end of the year, and the rest of their competition is a lot tougher than when the Big Eight was Oklahoma and the seven dwarfs.

Uva Uvum Vivendo Varia Fit

I notice he doesn't give any reasons for his overrated...why even throw that out there, other than just to get a rise out of people?

tacking and agent

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I notice he doesn't give any reasons for his overrated

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Take your pick:

11-13

Losing to Baylor

Running clock in 77-0 blowout

Getting smoked by Tennessee by 31 in a game you were favored in, 3rd string QB, virtual home game

Entire 2003 season, especially the multiple blowout losses to much less talented teams

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slipped back into loserville down the strectch.

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The game was in College Station last season, not Lubuttocks.

In spite of the reasons listed above I really don't think there is enough history for DF at A&M to make a call like this. DF did well at other programs. A&M is a very different case. The only other major conference school DF has head coached is 'Bama and he inherited a fairly well stocked cabinet. At A&M he came in following years of RC losing out on talent to Texas and OU. He had a disastrous first season and then turned around and had a better second season. The real deciding season will be the one coming up. A&M's odd year road schedules are brutal with trips to many places that A&M just does not do well. If DF can pull 7 wins this season he'll do well and should compete for the South title in '06. If he somehow finishes with a losing record then the Ags had best start fundraising to buy out that very long guaranteed contract they used to lure him over.

Blah blah blah, you have had good recruiting classes for a while, your "cabinet" shouldn't be bare. At least we can win bowl games with our "lesser" talent.

The mere fact that the guy had to introduce the disclaimer concerning Jo Pa and Bobby Bowden, as well as Larry Coker, proves that this guy is simply full of it. To not have Larry Coker on his top 10 list due to his assembled staff given to him by the previous coach...I call BS. For the man to keep the staff together should say something about him as a head coach and as a negotiator.

Then to rank Mack Brown in the top 10 with his - even by the admission of horn fans - questionable staff says more about the way in which this bozo analyzes coaches.

Anyway, I call this the most useless list ever assembled by an even more useless journalist.

In the last 2 years, has any coach in the country been paid more per win than Fran??

techguy, I'm not sure that your argument holds much water considering the money associated with winning particular games, such as the Big XII Championship game, a BCS game or the MNC.