The preseason texags crowned "best team in a decade" sure stacked up well in the Big 12. A real powerhouse you guys have going to the SEC.



Oklahoma State 7-1
Kansas State 6-2
Oklahoma 6-2
Baylor 5-3
Missouri 5-4
Texas 4-4
Texas A&M 4-5
Iowa State 3-5
Texas Tech 2-7
Kansas 0-9

they didn't want you, we know it hurts, but keep posting here to let us know it doesn't

texas will end up with the same conference record as a&m. i don't understand this thread.

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Texas 4-4

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and that's a helluva record you have to come to your "non-rival" board to talk smack, dick head.

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A real powerhouse you guys have going to the SEC.

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Just imagine how badly you'd get worked over in the SEC if we're going to struggle, given that we're better than you.

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given that we're better than you.

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[Lee Corso] Not so fast, my friend![/Lee Corso]

You watched the game. You've seen these teams all year. You know who's actually a better team. Choking our butt off, once again, doesn't change that.

27-25 Scoreboard 4 Life!

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Choking our butt off, once again, doesn't change that.

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Actually, that is one of the biggest reasons as to why A&M isn't the better team.

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Choking our butt off, once again, doesn't change that.

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This is no excuse. The Ags just weren't a 4 quarter team. It doesn't matter how good they were in the first half, they just couldn't sustain a high level of play for an entire game. This, along with a worse record and a head-to-head (home) loss, does indeed mean they are not as good as the 'Horns. I just don't know how you can argue those facts. All that matters is the W-L column. Nobody cares how good a team "should" be.

It's easy to argue. If they played again tomorrow, A&M would be favored. Everyone thinks A&M is a better team. Inexplicable collapses vs. a team who literally CAN'T move the ball to save their lives is a huge difference. Any coach, given the choice of players, would choose Texas A&M's roster over Texas'. Without hesitating. A&M, when clicking, was a very good team. Texas, at it's best, still wasn't good.

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Everyone thinks A&M is a better team. Inexplicable collapses vs. a team who literally CAN'T move the ball to save their lives is a huge difference. Any coach, given the choice of players, would choose Texas A&M's roster over Texas'. Without hesitating. A&M, when clicking, was a very good team. Texas, at it's best, still wasn't good.

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Hey, fatass...Scoreboard. Forever.

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If they played again tomorrow, A&M would be favored.

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Possibly, but that doesn't mean they would win. W-L decides who the better team is. Not "who is favored".

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Everyone thinks A&M is a better team.

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Yeah, everyone in Aggieland...

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Any coach, given the choice of players, would choose Texas A&M's roster over Texas'. Without hesitating.

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Possibly, but I bet any group of players would pick the UT coaching staff to lead them.

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A&M, when clicking, was a very good team.

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That's a huge problem. They don't click enough.

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Texas, at it's best, still wasn't good.

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Well, they were good enough ..

W/L is what's important.

Well, to everyone but the A&M coaches and administration.

When Cyrus and C-Mike both went out with injuries, I knew we were f-cked.

TO be fair, the run game was not your problem. Malena did just fine.

edit: Having another back would have helped but ultimately, Tanny's untimely turnovers were the difference.

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True the passing game is what killed us, but I think Gray would have been able to do a lot more than Malena.

If the Ags would have had Von this year, theyd have 11 wins right now. That is all they lacked. A defensive leader to prevent his team from 3rd quarter collapses.

Aggie = best 6 lost team in the country.

Smack talk from a 7-5 team. Awesome.

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If the Ags would have had Von this year, theyd have 11 wins right now. That is all they lacked. A defensive leader to prevent his team from 3rd quarter collapses.

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This. All we needed was one player to step up and prevent those late drives. Von was the guy to do that last year and we didn't have anyone who did it this year. Had that happened, we probably win Arky, KSU, Mizzou, and Texas.

7-4

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TO be fair, the run game was not your problem. Malena did just fine.

edit: Having another back would have helped but ultimately, Tanny's untimely turnovers were the difference.

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If we had another quality RB in the backfield, we wouldn't have had to rely on the passing game as much as we tried to. Tannehill should have only thrown the ball ~25 times that game, not 49. Cyrus was also a much better blocker than Malena, who did little help in picking up blitzes.

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If we had another quality RB in the backfield, we wouldn't have had to rely on the passing game as much as we tried to.

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If UT had VY or Colt at QB, then we would have been able to move the ball alot better than we did. But, we didn't have a guy like that, so we just went with what we had and made it work in the end.

In all seriousness, I don't know why A&M was throwing the ball at all when they had a 16-7 lead in the 3rd quarter. The UT defense is it's strength, and throwing the ball is what allows that D to make game-changing and momentum swinging plays via sacks or ints. Why not just run the ball and the clock, go 3 and out some, make a first down or two on other drives, then punt every time? That would have made it alot tougher on us.

This particular game was one of the very rare times where the coach should have played "not to lose" instead of staying aggressive once the lead was established and the game was in the 3rd quarter. You have to be able to realize the offensive capabilities of the other team. Against Arky and OSU, you'd have to stay aggressive.

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In all seriousness, I don't know why A&M was throwing the ball at all when they had a 16-7 lead in the 3rd quarter. The UT defense is it's strength, and throwing the ball is what allows that D to make game-changing and momentum swinging plays via sacks or ints. Why not just run the ball and the clock, go 3 and out some, make a first down or two on other drives, then punt every time? That would have made it alot tougher on us.

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We've all been wondering the same thing since Week 3.

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Yeah, everyone in Aggieland...

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And by that you mean literally everyone in the college football world, including Vegas, ESPN, all the way down to your own city's newspaper. If you've watched these teams all year and really believe that Texas is a better team than A&M, you're so delusional it's not worth arguing over.

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In all seriousness, I don't know why A&M was throwing the ball at all when they had a 16-7 lead in the 3rd quarter. The UT defense is it's strength, and throwing the ball is what allows that D to make game-changing and momentum swinging plays via sacks or ints. Why not just run the ball and the clock, go 3 and out some, make a first down or two on other drives, then punt every time? That would have made it alot tougher on us.

This particular game was one of the very rare times where the coach should have played "not to lose" instead of staying aggressive once the lead was established and the game was in the 3rd quarter. You have to be able to realize the offensive capabilities of the other team. Against Arky and OSU, you'd have to stay aggressive.

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This is precisely why we want him gone. He's recruiting pretty well...but any decent coach at Texas A&M can do that. It's Texas A&M, where the potential is truly unlimited. The problem is, no matter how much talent a coach has, his game management and decisions aren't likely to change much, and he repeatedly does this same stupid crap every week.

We played 1 team this year with more talent than us. We lost 6 times because of completely inept coaching decisions, poor execution, etc. Next year, we'll play at least 4-5 teams with more talent than us. At least. Assuming that Sherman is still here, what do you think the results will be?

This program and school absolutely CAN compete in the SEC. But not with this coach.

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Yeah, everyone in Aggieland...

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And by that you mean literally everyone in the college football world, including Vegas, ESPN, all the way down to your own city's newspaper. If you've watched these teams all year and really believe that Texas is a better team than A&M, you're so delusional it's not worth arguing over.

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I did watch them all year. I thought they were an excellent team going into the OSU game. At halftime, I thought they were the next Big 12 champs. After OSU loss, I thought they just had a bad half. At half of the Arky game, I thought that OSU meltdown was definitely a fluke. After Arky loss, I just thought Arky was better than I originally thought. After the Mizzou loss, I started thinking they were just a good team. After the OU game, I really soured on Tannehill. After KSU, I knew they had simply just lost it. After Gray was declared inactive for the UT game, I expected UT to win given that Shipley and Brown were playing.

So, yes, I 100% without a shadow of a doubt believed that the Aggies were the better team for most of the season. However, by Turkey Day, I thought it was 50-50 on who would win given that it was at Kyle Field. After the 27-25 UT victory, I realized UT was the better team at the end of the year.

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literally everyone in the college football world

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That explains why the Ags are ranked so much higher than Texas in the polls...

The lack of a good play caller and the lack of a defensive leader is exactly why I dont think A&M is a better team than UT at this time. I think those two aspects are more important than having a little more talent than the other team.

Price,

Way to go Matt Lienart on us. "You guys won, but we have the better team!!"

Texas has had the better team in the last few losses to A&M (except for last year), but Texas lost those games.

You are going to have to accept it, your team was a major disappointment this year. It was supposed to be top 10 and compete for the big 12 title, but they didn't. They tanked. It was as bad as 5-7. The difference was that you actually had a QB.

now the sips are convinced that the Ags wouldn't have faired any better with Cyrus and/or C-Mike in the game.

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I realized UT was the better team at the end of the year.

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Ok, buddy. Whatever you say.

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now the sips are convinced that the Ags wouldn't have faired any better with Cyrus and/or C-Mike in the game.

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It's hard to gauge this, but I do think that Cyrus was the difference in the game. If he plays, the outcome most likely would have been different.

But, I also think the loss of Fozzy Whitaker hurt the UT offense and special teams immensely. We would have probably beat KSU with Fozzy. And out offense would have been better against A&M with him.

But, we didn't have him, so oh well...