HSA Rollover Ideas?

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I bleed maroon
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OK - I have a long dormant HSA with one year of contributions in it that is fully invested. It has been dormant for the past 8 years. The good news is that the ~ $5000 or so invested has accumulated to over $12,000. The bad news is that they (OptumBank) has a couple of account fees that mildly annoy me. They are small, but I wondered if there is a fee-free alternative I can roll the funds to?

The two fees are: $2.50 investment fee, and a $3.00 Maintenance Fee (only waived if you keep more than $5000 in cash (which defeats the whole purpose of the HSA, in my mind). Once again, I've done fine overall, but it's the principle of the thing - I have no other bank or investment accounts that have any type of ongoing maintenance fees.

Obviously, this isn't a huge concern of mine, so just checking out of curiosity more than anything else. Anyone know of a completely fee-free HSA financial institution?
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I bleed maroon
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Thanks! No - that's really the crux of my issue. I am not contributing more (and don't plan to). I just don't want to get nickeled and dimed on the dormant account. I probably won't use these funds for a while (maybe a decade or two), unless it looks like it will just get slowly eaten away. In that case, I should probably just spend it on health-related stuff now.
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RockOn
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I keep mine at HSA Bank - if you keep a $5,000 cash balance you avoid all fees. The remainder is invested through TD Ameritrade (basically a sub account). Through TDA I'm able to buy no-fee vanguard index ETF's such as VTI.

Avoid UMB Bank - had a decently bad experience with them.
I bleed maroon
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RockOn said:

I keep mine at HSA Bank - if you keep a $5,000 cash balance you avoid all fees. The remainder is invested through TD Ameritrade (basically a sub account). Through TDA I'm able to buy no-fee vanguard index ETF's such as VTI.

Avoid UMB Bank - had a decently bad experience with them.
Yeah, RockOn - that is the same arrangement as OptumBank, for waiving of the $3.00 monthly account fee. With a total balance of $12,000, I'm definitely not wanting to keep $5000 of it in cash. However, the $2.50 investment fee per month is there no matter what.

I realize this is small potatoes, but I'm just curious if there are better HSA accounts to rollover to, if I get questions from others (I have in the past).
Mustang1
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I have an account with HSA Bank & only have to keep 1k in cash to avoid fees.
OasisMan
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Fidelity HSA --- 0 fees --- also you can invest 100% of your HSA


my work uses connectyourcare HSA -- so once a year (july-ish) i rollover my 6+k to fidelity

in fidelity you can invest in whatever you want -- i do weekly options trading
I bleed maroon
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OasisMan said:

Fidelity HSA --- 0 fees --- also you can invest 100% of your HSA


my work uses connectyourcare HSA -- so once a year (july-ish) i rollover my 6+k to fidelity

in fidelity you can invest in whatever you want -- i do weekly options trading
I'll check it out - THANKS!
bam02
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So did it grow from $5k to $12k without any contributions? If so, over what period?
I bleed maroon
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bam02 said:

So did it grow from $5k to $12k without any contributions? If so, over what period?
Yes. One year of contributions, 8-9 years ago, mostly aggressive fund options. About on a par with market performance. The $66/year fees aren't really harming the returns, they just annoy me.

I do kind of like the transfer to Fidelity alternative. Schwab doesn't offer them, sadly.
bmks270
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I bleed maroon said:

OasisMan said:

Fidelity HSA --- 0 fees --- also you can invest 100% of your HSA

my work uses connectyourcare HSA -- so once a year (july-ish) i rollover my 6+k to fidelity

in fidelity you can invest in whatever you want -- i do weekly options trading
I'll check it out - THANKS!


Thanks, I finally have an HSA balance worth investing. This looks like a good option.
kyledr04
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My work HSA just changed from Health Equity to Optum.
falconace
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Check out lively
insulator_king
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2nd vote for Lively. Pretty painless, and you can invest the 1st dollar at Schwab, who they are affiliated with.

No problems to date.
Grown Pear
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I used HealthSavings.com in the past. Good news is I believe I was 100% invested but bad news is I think the fees were higher than what you currently have. Granted some of that could be balance driven, regardless... it was annoying me too so was going to switch.

I have switched employers and am enrolled in the HDHP there so I transferred the entire balance. We're at Merrill Lynch/Bank of America [HSA + 401k]. Fees appear reasonable/lower but that could be because its employer sponsored. There is a $1,000 cash balance requirement though which is frustrating. I'm staying there for ease of having HSA & 401K together with one login and employer contributes $1K to the HSA.

I have not looked into Fidelity but that sounds like a winner based on the above posts.


*Note - the Health Savings Account is just such a fantastic longterm investment tool. Automatic 7.65% return for me by avoiding FICA taxes plus income tax deductible plus tax-free growth and distributions (with health receipts). EFFFF YES
YouBet
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bmks270 said:

I bleed maroon said:

OasisMan said:

Fidelity HSA --- 0 fees --- also you can invest 100% of your HSA

my work uses connectyourcare HSA -- so once a year (july-ish) i rollover my 6+k to fidelity

in fidelity you can invest in whatever you want -- i do weekly options trading
I'll check it out - THANKS!


Thanks, I finally have an HSA balance worth investing. This looks like a good option.
This is great news. I also have OptumBank for my HSA but it's now finished since I quit my job. Everything else at Fidelity so will look into this.

TwoMarksHand
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My employer uses Optum Bank as well. The investing options/fees are **** just as you layed out.
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I bleed maroon said:

OK - I have a long dormant HSA with one year of contributions in it that is fully invested. It has been dormant for the past 8 years. The good news is that the ~ $5000 or so invested has accumulated to over $12,000. The bad news is that they (OptumBank) has a couple of account fees that mildly annoy me. They are small, but I wondered if there is a fee-free alternative I can roll the funds to?

The two fees are: $2.50 investment fee, and a $3.00 Maintenance Fee (only waived if you keep more than $5000 in cash (which defeats the whole purpose of the HSA, in my mind). Once again, I've done fine overall, but it's the principle of the thing - I have no other bank or investment accounts that have any type of ongoing maintenance fees.

Obviously, this isn't a huge concern of mine, so just checking out of curiosity more than anything else. Anyone know of a completely fee-free HSA financial institution?
I just completed the Transfer request on Fidelity to move my Optum assets to a new Fidelity HSA account. Did it all online in about 5 minutes. Really easy. They open your new HSA account as part of the guided process.

Optum assets expected to be at Fidelity by 02/04/21.
TwoMarksHand
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Nice. Did you just pay the $20 transfer fee and go on?
YouBet
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TwoMarksHand said:

Nice. Did you just pay the $20 transfer fee and go on?


My understand is there is no transfer fee but maybe I missed that. Once it's transferred I do know there are no fees.
DonaldFDraper
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Question - Wife's company switched HSA providers at the beginning of the year from HSA Bank/TDA to another provider. She is still enrolled in a HDHP and contributing via payroll deductions to the new provider.

Her existing balance is still with HSA Bank/TDA. Her HR has only provided the options to keep it with HSA and pay a monthly fee or roll it into the new plan and pay a monthly fee.

Is she able to move it to any provider (like Fidelity) or does she have to combine it with the new provider?
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