How many ounces of gold...

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leardriver
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...or fractions of an ounce... are in a man's full size Aggie class ring? With the spike in gold prices... and probably more to come... I was wondering if I should get more insurance.

Thanks in advance for your response.

Cap'n Bill, '67
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bigtruckguy3500
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I think the rings are either 10 or 14 karats, and if I recall correctly they should weigh around .7oz for an average size 9-10 ring. So that would mean between .29oz and .41oz, depending on whether it is 10 or 14 karats.
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Current replacement costs for rings:
http://www.aggienetwork.com/ring/mobileBuildRing.aspx
leardriver
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Great information. Thanks to bigtruck and Brad.

I looked at mine for the first time in many years: It appears to be 10k. I recall that it cost about $80-90 bucks back in 1966 (I graduated early).

Cap'n Bill, '67


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Ulrich
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Just shy of $1,000 for me. 10K no diamond.
leardriver
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You related to Dale Ulrich, the former Air Force pilot?

My first job (with Boeing) after graduation paid $691/month. Our respective ring prices are probably in the same ballpark, except for the spike in the price of gold.

Bill, '67


Ulrich
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"Ulrich" is a movie reference with no relation to my real name.



$90 in '66 x inflation ~= $600 in 2010

Gold prices have resulted in a relative 66% increase in Aggie ring prices. I probably should have looked up the exact values for my initial post.
buzzardb267
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I crammed 4 years into 5 getting my CE degree, and I remember paying $95 for my ring. Graduated in 1968.
leardriver
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In those days, it was not difficult to get a math degree in three years with a couple summers: 137 hrs. What griped me was that a math degree at Texas only required 120 hrs, a full semester less work.

When I challenged the administration at A&M about this, they had a line of BS about Aggies having a 'greater capacity for work'. Later on, I figured it out. Texas A&M had lots of facilities and professors, but a relatively small number of students (maybe 12,000) compared to Texas (more like 25,000). A&M needed to justify their number of teachers, considering the uncrowded classrooms. While Texas needed to move people thru the system faster, A&M needed the students to stick around and take more classes, thereby making work, and job security, for the teachers.

I always considered this shameful on the part of the A&M administration. Back in those days, a senior had to write an essay in order to demonstrate 'English proficiency' prior to graduation. That curriculum difference was the subject of my essay. A friend of mine, Lani Presswood, was a writer for The Battalion. Sometime in 1966, he adapted my ideas into an editorial, but it fell on deaf ears.

Thankfully, for more recent students, those policies requiring so much more work than at Texas have changed. There's still a difference, but the gap has narrowed.

Now, back in the day, relatively few engineering majors (as the poster above cited) got out in four years. The worked their a$$es off for their hard earned degrees. Still do, I imagine.

Thanks for listening.

Cap'n Bill, '67




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[This message has been edited by leardriver (edited 4/9/2011 9:32p).]
Ulrich
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The degree I graduated with only required 128 hours, but after spending far too long in a different major (that required mid 130s, iirc) I graduated with something like 150 total hours in 4.5 years. If I had picked the right major to begin with I would have graduated in 3 years without doing summers.
bigtruckguy3500
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5 full years for my engineering degree. Of course taking all those military science classes doesn't help us get out any sooner.
leardriver
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Ulrich, I don't see how one could graduate from A&M during that era (1963-67) in three years without any summers. Maybe if one could CLEP out of some coursework. Otherwise you're talking well over 20 hours per semester. That's a tough load, especially in science/engineering.

Was there a reduction in hours required in the 1968 catalog? If so, maybe Presswood and I had an effect after all. I don't think there was any curriculum prior to that that required only 128 hours. Next time I'm at the library on campus, I'll have to do some research.

Cap'n Bill, '67


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Ulrich
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Nowadays, the state requires that degrees be 120 hours or less unless there is a professional certification for your major, which is why engineering and business majors can get away with more (PE, CPA, etc). Even so, there is a definite effort to cut the "number of hours" even if they don't cut the classwork. I took several classes that appeared to have been "administratively" cut down in hours without reducing the work. One easy example for that is ENGR 111, which counts for 2 hours but took up as much time as my 4 hour calculus and physics classes that same semester.

And yes, I did take 15-16 hours at a juco while I was in high school.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/DocViewer.aspx?K2DocKey=odbc%3a%2f%2fTCAS%2fASUPUBLIC.dbo.vwTCAS%2fED%2fS%2fED.61%40TCAS2&QueryText=university&HighlightType=1
quote:
Sec. 61.0515. SEMESTER CREDIT HOURS REQUIRED FOR BACCALAUREATE DEGREE. (a) To earn a baccalaureate degree, a student may not be required by a general academic teaching institution to complete more than the minimum number of semester credit hours required for the degree by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools or its successor unless the institution determines that there is a compelling academic reason for requiring completion of additional semester credit hours for the degree.


http://sacscoc.org/pdf/2010principlesofacreditation.pdf
quote:
2.7.1 The institution offers one or more degree programs based on at least
60 semester credit hours or the equivalent at the associate level; at
least 120 semester credit hours or the equivalent at the baccalaureate
level;
or at least 30 semester credit hours or the equivalent at the
post-baccalaureate, graduate, or professional level. If an institution
uses a unit other than semester credit hours, it provides an explanation
for the equivalency. The institution also provides a justification
for all degrees that include fewer than the required number of
semester credit hours or its equivalent unit. (Program Length)


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leardriver
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Great stuff, Ulrich. Thanks.

CB


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Agnzona
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Call Lloyd's of London an Aggie Ring is priceless!
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