New Mexico Summer Trip

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Dill-Ag13
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Leaning towards a summer trip to to NM from Houston. Driving up through DFW/Amarillo into Santa Fe/Chama area and then down through Albuquerque and Carlsbad/Guadalupe Mountains. Let me know any must-dos!

Kids are 5 and 7. Will be a 9-10 day trip most likely to spread it all out and dilute the driving.
Bluecat_Aggie94
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There is ton to do on that route. Your kids are the perfect age for Meow Wolf in Santa Fe. In Albuquerque take the tram up to the top of Sandia peak (you have to make reservations for that, they sell tickets online for specific time slots) If for some reason you don't get the tram or your kids are afraid to do that, the drive up is worth it. I'm sure Carlsbad Caverns is on your list.

I'd highly recommend a "Star Party" at McDonald's Observatory which might be a little outside your planned itinerary but not that far from Carlsbad. Our kids loved it.


bam02
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They would have fun at White Sands.
AggieOO
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

I'd highly recommend a "Star Party" at McDonald's Observatory which might be a little outside your planned itinerary but not that far from Carlsbad. Our kids loved it.
in the grand scheme of things over a 9 day trip, i suppose not, but it is still almost 3 hours between the two. And you lose an hour coming back to central time. That will happen regardless, but still have to plan for it.
wildcat08
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

There is ton to do on that route. Your kids are the perfect age for Meow Wolf in Santa Fe. In Albuquerque take the tram up to the top of Sandia peak (you have to make reservations for that, they sell tickets online for specific time slots) If for some reason you don't get the tram or your kids are afraid to do that, the drive up is worth it. I'm sure Carlsbad Caverns is on your list.

I'd highly recommend a "Star Party" at McDonald's Observatory which might be a little outside your planned itinerary but not that far from Carlsbad. Our kids loved it.



Another vote for Meow Wolf. The star party is awesome also, if it fits into the itinerary.
CDub06
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I would recommend driving up Sandia instead of taking the tram. They can pack those things in like sardines during the summer and that's not a ton of fun. If you drive up, it's an easy hike to the kiwanis cabin. Took my 5 year old on that hike and she loved it.

(You can also check out the musical highway on the way. It only adds a few minutes and it'll make you smile https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/musical-highway )

I'm also a big fan of Meow Wolf. I'd recommend reserving the first tickets of the day to beat some of the crowd.

White Sands is for sure fun. Make sure you rent a sled. It'll be HOT out there during the summer though, so bring plenty of water and sunscreen.

My kid enjoyed hiking Bandelier and all the climbing.

I'm not a big fan of ABQ Old Town, but the Rattlesnake Museum is fun. The Bugarium in the bio park is also neat.
corndog04
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White Sands pro tip - as mentioned above, it will be blazing hot in the summer. They are open until 1 hour after sunset - when we go in the summer we like to get there around 5:30 or 6. You'll miss the extreme heat, crowds are thinner, and the sunsets there are incredible. If you can time it to hit one of their full moon nights they are open even later (11pm) and it is a really cool experience.
Dill-Ag13
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Thanks y'all! Anyone do the steam train in Chama? Definitely a trek wayyyyy north compared to ABQ. Seems like a really long ride that would far surpass my kids' attention spans!
wildcat08
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Dill-Ag13 said:

Thanks y'all! Anyone do the steam train in Chama? Definitely a trek wayyyyy north compared to ABQ. Seems like a really long ride that would far surpass my kids' attention spans!
We've done it. I think you have summarized it well.
ccard257
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If you are planning on doing Carlsbad caverns (which you should), make sure you book a reservation in advance.
Pro Sandy
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My kids love Carlsbad Cavern and the Star Party in Fort Davis.

We did both in 2015 while moving cross country. Spent night in Artesia (Carlsbad hotels were $200/night), toured the cavern, drove to Fort Davis and it stormed. Went to Air BnB and decided to drive out just to see what was up. Weather cleared up and had an excellent night.
redaszag99
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Texas play at Palo Duro Canyon
CDub06
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Here's the hike to Kiwanis Cabin from the crest parking lot that I mentioned: https://www.alltrails.com/explore/trail/us/new-mexico/kiwanis-cabin-via-crest-trail?mobileMap=false&ref=sidebar-static-map
tgivaughn
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Angel Fire is a MUST
https://www.nps.gov/whsa/planyourvisit/things2do.htm
Short-hand answers here ... long-hand help here ....
http://pages.suddenlink.net/tgivaughn/
CanyonAg77
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Don't know how I've missed this. Lots of good advice, I'll chime in as well, taking the comments in order, to start:

First, I'd discourage a trip to Northern New Mexico and Southern New Mexico in the same vacation. It can be done, but I think it'd be a beatdown. For example, it's nearly 400 miles from Chama to Carlsbad, and a lot of it is through areas that aren't very scenic. And once you're done in Carlsbad, you're over 600 miles from home.

Your mileage may vary, pun intended. Total up the travel time, allow for your tolerance for travel, and make a decision.

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Meow Wolf, never been, but everyone recommends it.

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Albuquerque Sandia Peak: I can go for either the drive or the tram. Check prices, it's about $112 plus tax for your family to do the tram. Fun ride, some great views. But you can go to Tijeras, and drive up the back side for the cost of gas. You get the same views from the top. We've eaten at the restaurant up top, didn't get a good table, and the prices reflected the view which we didn't get.

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Train at Chama. I think your kids are barely old enough to enjoy it. Kind of depends on their interests. The engines are cool, the scenery is gorgeous. We rode the train one way, took the bus back. I think that's the best, and still makes for a long day.

If you search the web site, there are shorter trips out of Chama, such as riding midway and back, rather than going all the way to Antonito.

I love the Cumbres and Toltec train, but I'm a train nut. It really is a bucket list item for anyone. I like leaving from Antonito, because the train yard there is full of cool old equipment. If your kids enjoy mountain scenery and old machinery, I'd do at least a short trip. We have bought tickets for inside the cars, but we spent the whole trip riding in the open gondolas.

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I'm a huge fan of the TEXAS! musical in Palo Duro Canyon. Again, I think your kids are just old enough to begin to appreciate it. Budget two days, because you'll want to hike the canyon, you MUST visit the Panhandle-Plains Historical Museum in Canyon, and the play ends late, so you'll be spending the night in Canyon or Amarillo.

Is it too much on top of a trip to Chama? Yeah, maybe.

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I'm a bit confused with the poster who says "Angel Fire is a must" (northern New Mexico), and then links to White Sands(southern New Mexico). Angel Fire and Red River have been playgrounds for Texans in the Panhandle for decades. Red River is one of the best family fun spots in northern NM, but would add a lot of time to a trip to Santa Fe and ABQ.

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Now to my recommendations in order of travel. Some of these I'll just mention, you can Google them, or ask me for more details.

Copper Breaks, Caprock Canyons, and Palo Duro Canyon are all wonderful state parks approximately on your route. The Charles Goodnight home, Goodnight, Texas, is a nice stop for fans of Lonesome Dove and Panhandle history.

Again, highly recommend the museum in Canyon. Please don't waste time going to Cadillac Ranch in Amarillo. But there are several little Route 66 alignments off of I-40 from Amarillo To New Mexico if you are into that.

In New Mexico, Russell's Truck Stop just past Glenrio has a cool free car museum. Tucumcari has the most unchanged Route 66 alignment you'll find, and Del's Restaurant is still a good place to eat. Blue Hole at Santa Rosa is fascinating, and the old car museum isn't bad. Also has some Route 66 sights.

I assume you would leave I-40 at Clines Corners, a tourist trap since 1939. Going up 285 toward Santa Fe, you pass Lamy, which still has the train station from Manhattan Project days.

My don't miss in Santa Fe is Clafloutis for breakfast, r at least croissants

The drive from Santa Fe to Chama has some pretty spots. Los Alamos has great Manhattan Project history and museums, and some fantastic views. Bandelier Monument is cool, and Valles Caldera is one of the prettiest and most amazing places in New Mexico. There's a lot more to say about Los Alamos, but I won't bother unless you want more info.

Abiquiu is the former home of artist Georgia O'Keefe, after we ran her out of Canyon. A mosque owns land near there called Plaza Blanca, and allows you to hike. It is an amazing place, worth the diversion.

Again, Chama is pretty, the train is fun, worth the trip in my opinion.

Returning to ABQ, you can take 550 through Cuba. More deserts, more desolate, but it does have some amazing desert views. Maybe nt so great for young kids.

In ABQ, the Biopark (zoo, aquarium, gardens) is worth a visit. I think the kids would enjoy the natural history museum. The National Nuclear Museum is great, but may be above them. However, they have lots of cool planes on static display out back, if they're into that.

If you do want to throw in Carlsbad, that's where the Desolate Drive comes in. Clines Corners to Vaughn to Roswell. Ugh. And don't bother with the UFO crap at Roswell.

You could go ABQ to San Antonio, NM (have a green chile cheeseburger at the Owl Bar) and drive across north of the Trinity Site to Carizozo. Further on, you can go to Lincoln for Billy the Kid stuff.

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Well, that should be a crapton to start with. Reply or PM for more info or explanation.
AgLA06
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Dill-Ag13 said:

Thanks y'all! Anyone do the steam train in Chama? Definitely a trek wayyyyy north compared to ABQ. Seems like a really long ride that would far surpass my kids' attention spans!


We did a train ride out of Santa Fe that was shorter.

https://www.skyrailway.com/
CanyonAg77
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AgLA06 said:

Dill-Ag13 said:

Thanks y'all! Anyone do the steam train in Chama? Definitely a trek wayyyyy north compared to ABQ. Seems like a really long ride that would far surpass my kids' attention spans!

We did a train ride out of Santa Fe that was shorter.

https://www.skyrailway.com/

Haven't ever done that. It looks like fun, and I believe the Game of Thrones guy (Martin) is involved in it. My understanding is that it is more an entertainment train than a scenery train, like the Cumbres and Toltec in Chama. And the scenery south of Santa Fe is interesting, but nothing compared to Chama.

It also uses diesel/electrics, not the steam engines like the C&T or The Silverton out of Durango, CO.

It does go to the historic depot, in Lamy, I believe.
GrapevineAg
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I really enjoyed Bandelier up by Los Alamos. I love that whole area of NM.
AgLA06
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Sure. I was just offering an alternative to see how the kids do. It's been a while, but I think it was out to the depot and back.

CanyonAg77
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The more the merrier. Wasn't intended as criticism.
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