This is why Mavs fans were wondering why the kid was not gettting playing time. That was pretty impressive what he did after sitting for the entire series. Carlisle may be gone for this call.

I already know exactly how this thread will go.

All I'm going to say is Roddy is a baller and Carlisle is an idiot for not playing him.

Could he have done that the whole series?

Mav's fans and their excuses humor me.

All of you on TA would do such a better job than Carlisle, i'm assuming as well.

Mavs, their lunatic owner, and the annoying fan base is what makes Dallas the joke of the NBA.

Yep, maybe so.

Thanks for the congrats.

I'll go ahead and be the first to say it... Beaubois has a high ceiling but he's volatile. After dribbling in too deep several times and getting swatted a couple more he wasn't reliable enough at the end.

Should he have been in? Maybe, there's definitely an argument in favor of it. On the other hand, the Spurs have made a decade out of handling talented young scorers.

a huge reason he was so good was because the spurs hadn't prepared for him at all. you can't go back and say the outcome would've changed, who knows what adjustments would have been made

Horns would have won if Cart didn't get hurt against Bama. Same crap.


He played really well though...what a great find.

texag940 - maybe so - however, NBA vet and commentator Derek Harper agrees. He pulled no punches in the post-game talk; he absolutely called out Carlisle for not having the kid play in the series. He can get to the rim and get his shot off at will, or dish if there is a double-team. That's exactly what you need against the Spurs. If you note, this is not the first night we have asked "Where's Roddy" - that was happening early in the series.

I do think we would have won if he had played, but that isn't taking anything away from the Spurs. Coaching is a big part of the game, and ya'll obviously have the better coach. Therefore, ya'll deserved to win this series. It's our fault for employing a moron to sit on our bench.

Agreed mavsfan4ever; good luck in the next round Spurs.

no- the spurs would have shut him down too if he was that great

Pop eliminated Kidd and Terry and let Booboo have a nice game

Booboo is a very nice player but there is no way in hell he changes this series one iota

truth be told, we're probably playing game 7 on saturday if the mavs can make 2 or 3 more ****ing buckets in the 1st Q. 8 ****ing points? Really??

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On the other hand, the Spurs have made a decade out of handling talented young scorers.

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Except for 2006.

Carlisle ****ed this up, and he's going to pay

Yeah, and if Colt McCoy wasn't injured, texas win the championship.

If he wasn't in the game at all, Duncan finishes with 2 less blocks, and Dallas finishes with one less turnover.

He played great in his limited time, but I don't think he can maintain that high energy and results for that extended amount of playing time.

cobizzle - Roddy B did score 40 in a game this year when Terry was injured. You don't do that in the league if you don't have serious skills; also, having followed the Mavs this year, there is no question he is a special player. Good things always seemed to happen when he was in.

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Roddy B did score 40 in a game this year when Terry was injured.

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Willie Ricardo Burton and Tony Delk each scored 53 in a game.

If my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle.

Yes. The commentators mentioned his 40 point game. There is no doubt that he has skills. I saw it for myself. But one 40 point game doesn't mean you win a series.

Mike Singletary of Texas Tech averaged 11 ppg last year, then put up 43 on us in the Big 12 tournament. I realize that it is no where near the NBA, but I'm sure if he deserved PT, he would have gotten it.

I expect him to be getting very very good the next few years. In his limited PT, he did both amazing things, and stupid things.

Just maybe it was Mark Cuban's decision?

Nobody has mentioned the real problem. This was game six of the series.

There were plenty of other chances to give Beaubois some playing time in first five games. Barrea and Kidd were mediocre at best.

Carlisle should have given him five minutes here and there. Then maybe he sees that Roddy's quickness is driving the Spurs crazy. It was really a wasted opportunity.

They put him in during game 3 & the Spurs went on a nice run with Parker abusing him on offense & him committing a couple of bad turnovers. Plus, throw in Barea having a couple of decent games (he wouldn't have done anything more in those games). It's like Spurs fans claiming last year's series would have been different if Hill played more.

This thread was 1% about actually congratulating the Spurs and 99% about making an excuse.

A) ditto what Mookie said
B) Look at what happened in the last minute with the game on the line. Booboo played out of control and turned the ball over stupidly in the open court. Sure, he had a better all-around defensive game, but you absolutely cannot blame a coach for wanting veteran hands in the game in the final minutes, or even in the entire 4th quarter.

I knew there would be a backlash of "Free Roddy B" people after his performance last night, but to me it is just stupid. Pop does the same thing (NEVER plays rookies in critical situations), and everyone thinks he is a genius. Carlisle does it, it doesn't work out, and everyone thinks he should be fired.

I guess I'm kind of a hypocrite though because I feel the same way about Dejuan Blair. The only difference is Blair shares minutes with NBA clown Matt Bonner, whereas Roddy B shares minutes with NBA HOF lock Jason Kidd and one of the best 6th men in the entire league, Jason Terry.

I can understand greatly limiting his time due to rookie knucklehead factor, but to birdman's point, I thought there were numerous opportunities earlier in the series where they could have used his explosiveness and one spurt similar to what he had last night (something he's done a fair # of times this seasn) very well salvages one of those earlier losses- and salvage just one game and you turn the entire series on its head. It's ignorant to say one guy couldn't have done that.

What really doesn't make sense is being willing to **** with your lineup so much that you bench Caron Butler for an entire freaking half, but not being willing to take a looksy at a few minutes of Roddy B. You don't have to play him 30 minutes, but at some point games 1-5, putting him in for 2-3 minutes to see if there is a spark just seems like common sense with limited risk.


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The Spurs had figured out Booby by the end of the 3rd quarter, when they stuffed him on consecutive out of control driving attempts. If you will recall, this helped fuel the Spurs run at the end of the quarter that got them back up by 7 points. The Spurs played the drive differently. Instead of the guard stopping mid range and leaving Duncan to play him 1 on 1 going to the rim, they kept running alongside him all the way into the paint. Booby had several people wide open and instead elected, consecutively, to get stuffed by Duncan.

I'm sure Carlisle was wanting to get him out before he kept screwing up and ballooned the Spurs lead even more.

Then he comes back in during crunch time with around 2 minutes and something, and right on cue he makes about the dumbest midcourt turnover I have ever seen. That is why coaches usually don't keep rookies in a playoff game for very long.

Should Boobtard have been played earlier in the series? Probably, but the way Carlisle used him in game 6 was, more or less, prudent.

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I guess I'm kind of a hypocrite though because I feel the same way about Dejuan Blair. The only difference is Blair shares minutes with NBA clown Matt Bonner, whereas Roddy B shares minutes with NBA HOF lock Jason Kidd and one of the best 6th men in the entire league, Jason Terry.

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I believe you had a mini-meltdown over George Hill not playing last year.

Plus I like how Kidd is now a HOF lock PG for this argument, but in other arguments he is worthless compared to young fast PG Devin Harris. And you didn't mention that Barea also took many of Roddy's minutes. Barea is the biggest weak link of the group.

And Jason Terry needs to be dumped like Finley was in 2005 or buried like Stackhouse in 2009 - he plays great in the regular season but is too inconsistent to be relied on.

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Pop eliminated Kidd and Terry and let Booboo have a nice game

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Kidd and Terry provided nothing, and couldn't hit an open shot this series.

Pop was visibly beside himself on the sidelines (throwing his arms up, and putting his hands over his face, etc) as Roddy helped get the Mavs back into the game.

I'm pretty sure Pop wanted them to play defense on Roddy as well.





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My bigger issue with Carlisle is not giving Roddy a test run earlier in the series. If the Spurs learn the hard way about him like they did last night - but it's game 3 or 4 instead of and elimination game in which Dallas is down by 20+, then we may very well have a different series result.

As far as the end of the game, Roddy had sloppy one trip down the court, but I can't hold that last TO against him given it's hard to keep one's dribble when your wrist gets grabbed by a defender.

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Just like I don't hold that jump ball against Manu when it was clear that he got a hug from two Mavs players before they even touched the ball.

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I believe you had a mini-meltdown over George Hill not playing last year

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I believe you are correct.
I'm nothing if not hypocritical. Or as I like to say, ironical.

I guess my main point is that, while I can definitely see giving Roddy some playoff minutes, and even a consistent spot in the rotation, I can 100% understand not wanting him in the game in 4th quarter crunch time. And that was how I felt about Hill last year.

My problem with the George Hill thing was how it was handled. Pop wasn't just content to not play him. He made a point to say on the eve of the playoffs that George wasn't going to play because he "wasn't ready". I wouldn't have had a problem with him never touching the floor in the 4th quarter, but the guy has been a consistent spark off the bench all year long, and you're going to take him off the table before the series ever starts? Little different than the Roddy B situation. Same outcome though...Hill eventually played when Pop realized he had a roster full of stiffs.

Hill also played great early in the season when Parker was out, and Pop slowly cut his minutes.

first, please dont ever compare carlise and pop. carlisle is in the bottom tier of coaches in the league, while pop is #2 behind phil.

also carlisle is an ahole. pop is sarcastic. there is a difference.

Roddy's lack of PT will likely cost Carlisle his job.