1. USC
2. OU
3. Auburn
4. Cal
5. TU
6. Utah
7. Boise State

Wow. If we beat Texas, 6 and 7 will move up to be 5 and 6. The BCS would automatically have to give berths to the two non-BCS schools because they're in the top six.

I forgot to mention.

We're #19.

Look for UGA to jump Boise. Assuming Cal wins in Hattisburg, which isn't a given.

TCR's back in Aggieland. And he's cookin'!

uga could jump boise, but they don't have to.

also, if texas loses to us, they could still be ahead of boise in both polls.

The Rose Bowl rule is the same as all other BCS Bowl rules. For instance, the Big XII is tied to the Fiesta bowl, and PAC 10 to the Rose. Since USC is ranked 1st the Rose Bowl gets 1st pick after the Orange Bowl because they lost they're host who was ranked first. The Fiesta gets to choose after Rose, but since only 2 at-large spots exist they must choose Utah.
"If two BCS bowls lose their host teams to the national championship game, the BCS bowl losing the top-ranked team would have the first at-large selection, followed by the BCS bowl that lost the second-ranked team. Bowls cannot select a "host" team from another BCS bowl."
"Any Division I-A independent or team from Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Western Athletic Conferences will earn a guaranteed slot in one of the BCS games should that team be ranked sixth or higher in the final BCS Standings - unless more than two teams meet this criterion. Should more than two such teams be ranked in the top six of the standings, the BCS bowls will have their choice of any two from that group. However, any team ranked No. 1 or No. 2 must be selected for the national championship game. "
However even national sports writers are getting this ruling wrong, because they seem to think the BCS would have to take 2 non BCS schools, but as I have just posted off of the BCS web page, this is not the case.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/index.cfm?page=eligibility

So that could mean the sips are SOL no matter what, even if Cal loses then Boise St would be in the top 6 and as a non-BCS team would get the nod ahead of the sips, as a second place non-BCS conf team. Ouch.

Fiesta Bowl: Utah v. Boise St., just what Utah didn't want. Finally get to a BCS game and get to play the winner of the WAC.

Of the eight teams in the BCS, potentiall four of them could be:

The MWC winner (Utah)
The WAC winner (Boise St.)
The Big East winner (Boston College?)
And a two-loss ACC winner (Miami, VT)

Me thinks the system is broken. Good lord do we need a playoff.

Man, if we beat Texas, Boise State falls into top 6, and the Cotton Bowl picks tu over us, we may have to play Cal in the Holiday Bowl. That would be a tough matchup, but could put us in the Top 10 if we could win both.

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West Tex

It appears from what you posted they would have to take two if they were both in the top 6.

"Any Division I-A independent or team from Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Western Athletic Conferences will earn a guaranteed slot in one of the BCS games should that team be ranked sixth or higher in the final BCS Standings - unless more than two teams meet this criterion."

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From today's LA Times:

[Please do not copy/paste entire articles---Staff]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-dufresne22nov22,1,6624075.column?coll=la-headlines-sports-coll-usc

link provided by Texags Staff

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However even national sports writers are getting this ruling wrong, because they seem to think the BCS would have to take 2 non BCS schools, but as I have just posted off of the BCS web page, this is not the case.

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I disagree. From what you posted:

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"Any Division I-A independent or team from Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Western Athletic Conferences will earn a guaranteed slot in one of the BCS games should that team be ranked sixth or higher in the final BCS Standings - unless more than two teams meet this criterion. Should more than two such teams be ranked in the top six of the standings, the BCS bowls will have their choice of any two from that group. However, any team ranked No. 1 or No. 2 must be selected for the national championship game. "

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I think this means they would have to take 2 non-BCS teams if both non-BCS teams are ranked in the top 6 of the final BCS standings before the bowl games.

The fact that our losing to the sips would save the BCS from humiliation essentially guarantees that we will win!

If you want a real messed up scenario, what if Auburn or OU loses, but Cal and Texas win.

Then we could possibly see 4 teams (Cal, Texas, Utah, and Boise State) all qualify for automatic at large berths even though there are only two available.

I realize Utah and Boise would be the two to get in, but the Big XII and Pac 10 would be pissed off enough to force another reconfiguration of the BCS system, if not to scrap it entirely.

Rose: Michigan v. Utah
Fiesta: Boise St. v. BC
Sugar: Auburn v. Miami (or VTech)


Is that how it would go down?

in your scenerio, not four teams would qualify for automatic bids. only 2 would.

that's about right BMX

Rose would have first pick, and they'd prolly take Utah over boise

BMX - Cal and Texas would have automatic bids by finishing in the top 4. However, the top 6 rule for non BCS teams would take precedence.

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If we beat t.u., I'd imagine the Holiday would work things out with the Cotton so that Texas and Cal played in the Holiday (for a BCS caliber matchup) and the Cotton (who prefers us anyway) would take the Ags.

Undefeated or not, Boise State being that high is a joke. Had Louisville not coughed up a win at Miami, this thing would be a real mess.

If any at-large slots remain unfilled after application of the procedures in (1), (2), and (3) above and the team ranked third in the BCS standings is an at-large team, then the team ranked third in the BCS standings shall automatically fill one at-large slot and play in a BCS bowl.

Thus, Cal and Texas never become automatic qualifiers b/c slots already filled.

Isn't it a real mess already?

Keep in mind that Miami can not get an "at-large" berth as they still have to play Va Tech. They will either beat Va Tech and go or lose and not go. Only GA could get an "at-large" berth and they would be plenty of upset college football fans if a 2 loss GA team goes over an undefeated team or a Louisville who's only loss was a 3pt miracle comeback AT MIAMI. Georgia got beat at home by a not so good Tenn team and manhandled by Auburn.

can someone who tracks this more closely them me tell me what happens if Auburn loses in their championship game? and if they do, how does that impact if Texas wins? and if A&M wins?

thanks

It would be great to see Boise and Utah play. Call it the Morman Bowl. Sprite would be the biggest beneficiary.

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The fact that our losing to the sips would save the BCS from humiliation essentially guarantees that we will win!

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The scary thing about this statement is that it is almost logical. The current BCS has actually made the illogical logical.

My guess would be that if Tennessee beats Auburn, you would have:
1) Tennessee in the Sugar
2) Auburn dropping in the BCS polls (how far remains to be seen).
3) If Auburn falls out of the top 6, then Texas and Cal both lose in their at large bids

For Cal to go to the Rose, they need Texas to win this week OR Georgia to pass by Boise State & Louisville into the number 6 spot

For Texas to get a BCS bid, they need a miracle (they would have to win big and pass Cal in the BCS rankings AND have only Utah in the top 6)

I've seen scrambled eggs much easier to sort out

I misread the if more than two, to mean more than one. I did a great job representing A&M there with my reading comprehension.

I love the use of "prolly"....that's like something straight off of Blue Collar.

Git 'r done!

What if Texas AND Cal lose?

Utah, Boise, and Louisville would all three qualify for the BCS and the bowls would have to choose just two of them?

In any event, Boston College should do the right thing and decline the BCS bid. Perhaps they could work out a deal where they let a deserving team go but BC/Big East gets the BCS money and the team that goes in their place gets BC's bowl money.

It's great that everyone in the country except TU and Cal will be rooting for us.

A TU/Cal match-up at the Holiday would be pretty favorable especially since that means we'd be in the Cotton.

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If we beat t.u., I'd imagine the Holiday would work things out with the Cotton so that Texas and Cal played in the Holiday (for a BCS caliber matchup) and the Cotton (who prefers us anyway) would take the Ags.

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Nice angle and I'd love to see this pan out.

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ok, so say (highly unlikely... but it's fun right?) USC, OU, and Auburn all lose, cal and tu win. do the standings look like this?

1.cal
2.tu
3-5.usc,ou,auburn
6. utah

that puts cal vs tu in the orange bowl, since they're 1 and 2. usc vs mich in the rose. big XII north winner vs utah in the fiesta and the kicker....miami vs BC vs tennessee in the sugar. 3 at large teams have to play...someone has to get bumoped out

If we beat tu Id be willing to bet money we will goto the Cotton Bowl