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Gameday Yesterday... Related to the bench

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I know a lot of y'all don't watch because "ESPN..." Whatever

There was a good conversation, specifically with Coach Saban and some points by Mcafee. They were talking specifically about the power of the bench. It doesn't have the power that it used to. The bench used to have the very real power to open the ears and get players to listen. When the butt is on the bench the brain gets the very clear message that it must change the performance of the body.

NIL along with unlimited transfer has changed that. They also talked about some of what we've suspected that there are players out there with play time minimums in their NIL contract. All of this reduces the threat of the bench on players. Getting benched used to mean your future options were getting narrower. If you aren't a starter your draft prospects are getting slimmer and slimmer. That is very motivating. If you're getting 7 figures regardless, that starts to cut into the motivation to do the work.

Sure most of us know that isn't the high life and there probably aren't many on this board (TexAgs millionaires jokes aside) that are looking to retire on a low 7-figure nest egg without another income stream. These kids don't know that. Some, like Johnny, come form mid-high cash flow homes but plenty of them come from little to nothing. "Trust fund kids" are absolutely the VERY rare exception. Point is they see the first NIL contract as the golden ticket. As such they have 3-4 years of that money going to roll in and they're set. Sure the NFL is great and I'm sure they want to go, but my point is the bench isn't as motivating as it used to be. That NIL winning lotto ticket will run out before most of those kids are 30.

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Sometimes the butt and the bench need to have a meeting. I'm all for it. But in Elkos mind, that's giving up on him.
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Bama and other blue bloods won by stacking depth, paying more for HCs, and having better recruiting cheating schemes.

Stacking depth is almost impossible in 2026. The result is parity. Can someone please explain to me how that could possibly be a bad thing for 90% of fans, A&M fans included.

Fixing players focus and dedication is the job of $5-$10 million dollar coaches. If they can't, they will should be paid less.

I think CFB doesn't know how to keep the blue bloods ... blue bloods anymore and everyone is having to deal with the fact that parity is a major adjustment for programs, fans, and the media.

The media and some fans want to see a few good teams put a better product on the field. I'd rather see unpredictable games and historical mid-level teams beating traditional blue bloods more often. It's far more entertaining than knowing the outcome before the season even begins.
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Ask yourself- how many games would it have taken for Saban to bench Reed? After Kentucky? LSU?
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TheDecadeSapling said:

Sometimes the butt and the bench need to have a meeting. I'm all for it. But in Elkos mind, that's giving up on him.


Then Elko's fat a** needs to be in the bench then. Just seeing him pisses me off.
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txrrer said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

Sometimes the butt and the bench need to have a meeting. I'm all for it. But in Elkos mind, that's giving up on him.


Then Elko's fat a** needs to be in the bench then. Just seeing him pisses me off.


Some of you dipsh*ts need to drop the fat thing.
Not every overweight person is a worthless lazy f*ck, despite their image.

I'm fairly certain a lot of the keyboard warriors in here should probably look closer in the mirror at themselves too.
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83Aggie said:

Ask yourself- how many games would it have taken for Saban to bench Reed? After Kentucky? LSU?


Do you honestly believe that Reed would be on the team this year if Saban were coach? And if he were, would he be anything more than a backup?

Reed would not be sniffing the field on a Saban team.
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Probably a future: ESPN ~(30 FOR 30)~ show on what really happened to The Aggies in the 2026 season.
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If true, why isn't minimum playing time like fixing a game? Shouldn't min playing time be disclosed for gambling purposes?
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I remember listening to a Chiefs-related show on KC sports talk radio back in 2018. They were discussing the draft and discussing Bama players. Both hosts agreed that you needed to be cautious drafting Bama players. They've been so well coached and developed that they really don't have much upside. That is, you're not going to make them a substantially better player than Saban's staff did.
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TxAg76 said:

txrrer said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

Sometimes the butt and the bench need to have a meeting. I'm all for it. But in Elkos mind, that's giving up on him.


Then Elko's fat a** needs to be in the bench then. Just seeing him pisses me off.


Some of you dipsh*ts need to drop the fat thing.
Not every overweight person is a worthless lazy f*ck, despite their image.

I'm fairly certain a lot of the keyboard warriors in here should probably look closer in the mirror at themselves too.


No, you're right, not every one of them is. But Elko just happens to be fat and has proven that he is a worthless lazy F*** based on his ineptitude at changing anything that doesn't work.
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In regards to the "fat Elko" comment. He has total access to the most advanced dietary programs and training facilities in the US. He knows how he looks and is smart enough to understand the dangers. It's a matter of pride and commitment….. probably our team needs both also. He's suppose to be a leader.
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No14sDad said:

In regards to the "fat Elko" comment. He has total access to the most advanced dietary programs and training facilities in the US. He knows how he looks and is smart enough to understand the dangers. It's a matter of pride and commitment….. probably our team needs both also. He's suppose to be a leader.


The problem is that his weight can't be proven to have a single thing to do with his lack of ability to have put this team and position to do better. It's just losers venting like The Real House Wives of College Station.

Is there even a single shread of evidence that the players have no respect for him because of his belly?

It's just just simply low IQ childish attacks.

And no, I'm not overweight.
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AGDAD14 said:

If true, why isn't minimum playing time like fixing a game? Shouldn't min playing time be disclosed for gambling purposes?


There are no contractual playing time minimums.
The only difference I can see is the possibility of a coach not wanting to embarrass/anger a booster who paid for a player at the coach's behest and possibly foreclosing future player purchases from that source.
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Fat people are funny
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TxAg76 said:

txrrer said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

Sometimes the butt and the bench need to have a meeting. I'm all for it. But in Elkos mind, that's giving up on him.


Then Elko's fat a** needs to be in the bench then. Just seeing him pisses me off.


Some of you dipsh*ts need to drop the fat thing.
Not every overweight person is a worthless lazy f*ck, despite their image.

I'm fairly certain a lot of the keyboard warriors in here should probably look closer in the mirror at themselves too.


Yeah, I think about 70% of dudes I see are overweight and probably half of those are obese, so I know a good number of the cesspool are fat arses too.
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Fat asses, even.

You know, since most of here aren't British.
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The media and some fans want to see a few good teams put a better product on the field. I'd rather see unpredictable games and historical mid-level teams beating traditional blue bloods more often. It's far more entertaining than knowing the outcome before the season even begins. [/quote said:



I don't think any of us have an issue with seeing some blue bloods fall from grace. I'd say 99% of us CFB fans enjoy the upsets and surprises every week also. This post is about our coach being hamstrung from possibly trying to find a spark at the most important position on our team.

If that's truly the case, the sport needs major, major revamping out of this transition phase from paying players to their contracts setting the tone for an entire season.
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Kenneth_2003 said:



They also talked about some of what we've suspected that there are players out there with play time minimums in their NIL contract.



The rest I agree, but I doubt this is even possible. The NIL contracts are almost never with the school or team.
83Aggie
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Zut alors! said:

83Aggie said:

Ask yourself- how many games would it have taken for Saban to bench Reed? After Kentucky? LSU?


Do you honestly believe that Reed would be on the team this year if Saban were coach? And if he were, would he be anything more than a backup?

Reed would not be sniffing the field on a Saban team.

Truth, you are right
Zut alors!
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Faustus said:

AGDAD14 said:

If true, why isn't minimum playing time like fixing a game? Shouldn't min playing time be disclosed for gambling purposes?


There are no contractual playing time minimums.
The only difference I can see is the possibility of a coach not wanting to embarrass/anger a booster who paid for a player at the coach's behest and possibly foreclosing future player purchases from that source.


Coaches need to approach it like they do in the pros. Do you think that the GM of a pro team would not be ok with a coach sitting someone making ridiculous amounts that has proven he can't earn it? If someone making less is better, he will play. The point is to win. That's it. Bad contracts happen all the time, that's just part of the business. Good coaches know that, and the people above the coaches expect that.

Of course, the same should apply to the coaches who suck too. Just like in the pros. If you don't earn your pay, your ass hits the streets. Wasted money should not be a reason to waste a program.
Fatboy Thaddeus
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Kenneth_2003 said:

I know a lot of y'all don't watch because "ESPN..." Whatever

Fits me to a "T"
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