Yes Reed's QB play has been horrible this year, but he's not getting much help from his receivers. There have been so many drops this year. Additionally, the receivers we pay many millions of dollars a year for are not getting separation against average SEC secondaries.

He's not a 2-3MM player. That's the issue. If he was, he'd cover up those shortcomings.

Dabo I think you're just jealous that I'm making better points than you

His receivers can't catch a ball thrown between them....

True, but they've also struggled to catch the ball when it hits them in the hands

They get paid millions of dollars a year to catch the ball, I don't care if they're shocked that it's a good throw

I don't disagree, just saying that the bottom line is if the throw is good, the receivers need to catch it

There's not really a bright spot to be found on this team. Punter and place kicker shine the most.

You can't blame the receivers for the drops. They can't believe the ball is still in the air when it gets close to them.

PortalWarrior said:

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Yes Reed's QB play has been horrible this year, but he's not getting much help from his receivers. There have been so many drops this year. Additionally, the receivers we pay many millions of dollars a year for are not getting separation against average SEC secondaries.

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Well, his receivers aren't gophers digging for balls in the dirt and they're not eagles flying sky high for overthrows!!
Reed has to get the ball to them before they can drop even it!

PortalWarrior said:

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Yes Reed's QB play has been horrible this year, but he's not getting much help from his receivers. There have been so many drops this year. Additionally, the receivers we pay many millions of dollars a year for are not getting separation against average SEC secondaries.

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His receivers have no clue where the ball is headed and when one does hit'em in the hands, they're so ****ing shocked they drop the damn ball.

I never said they were, just pointing out that they haven't been top tier this year and that hasn't helped out the qb situation

It's not entirely Reed's fault is true.

But QB is the most visible and gets both excessive praise and blame.

And Reed does have a lot of faults this season.

The Oline and receivers have underperformed.

As the season has gone on, Oline seems to have progressed, not to where they need to but from where they started. Receivers seem to have regressed.

The main issue to me is it seems like all units, coaching and positions, are still trying to force an advanced/experienced offensive scheme to the limits when all units should have dialed it back and simplified by now.

Coaching should not expect things to work out currently with how each unit is playing. Marcel should be checking down more often and taking easier chances because he's not clicking. OL has to block the way they're told but we've got to stop pulling so often. RB's and WR's need to stop thinking about things 2 seconds ahead and do the simple thing in front on them.

The 2 areas that can effect most of the change are the coaches and the QB. The coaches CAN simplify the game plan and focus on things that work and slowly build off that (but aren't). The QB CAN make switches, shift where he decides to pass and when on different plays, and choose when to run, etc. So the coaches and QB will get the most heat. Nature of the business.

4&2 game still in the balance and can't hit a RB wide open who wasn't even past the line of scrimmage yet. Average QB hits the RB's body at least somewhere. Good QB leads the RB so they can catch it without breaking stride. Our QB tries to hit this wide open RB like he is skipping rocks on a lake.

TyperWoods said:

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Receivers seem to have regressed.

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At this point, I assume our receivers are genuinely surprised on the rare occasion Reed hits them on target.

Everything on Offense starts with the Oline.... Reed has been horrible, our receivers have been subpar no doubt, but all of it starts with protection. Reed has no faith in his Oline and for good reason. RBs have not protected either... Its just a total disaster, but at the end of the day if you can't protect no QB has a prayer...

Alright. We've been *****ing and moaning about the Ol for a long time. It is a shambles, but it has been suspect for a while. And Reed is a problem. All that rests with the coaching staff, the HC and the AD. What're your analytical potential solutions?

New oc

aeon-ag said:

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his receivers aren't gophers digging for balls in the dirt and they're not eagles flying sky high for overthrows!!

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Don't forget just a bit outside, in front or behind.

Artorias said:

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TyperWoods said:

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Receivers seem to have regressed.

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At this point, I assume our receivers are genuinely surprised on the rare occasion Reed hits them on target.

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I don't disagree, but you need to make the catch if Reed somehow gets it to you.

He needed to hire a George Whitfield or a QB guru, and not depend on our staff.
His fault hard to say but he could have done something about his skills set.

bigdaddygriffin said:

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Everything on Offense starts with the Oline.... Reed has been horrible, our receivers have been subpar no doubt, but all of it starts with protection. Reed has no faith in his Oline and for good reason. RBs have not protected either... Its just a total disaster, but at the end of the day if you can't protect no QB has a prayer...

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THIS...


The o line is AWFUL. can't pass protect and can't open running lanes.

We have a bunch of #2 receivers. We just don't have that 1 guy that can go beat almost anyone on the field when needed.

Reed has no business as a qb. Maybe a db or wr. Maybe.