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New UIL practice rules- Wet Bulb Globe Temperature

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Each school has a gauge installed and coaches have an app that tells them the WBGT. I guess they can practice at 6am and 7pm until October when it starts to cool down......





Big change for Texas school sports this year!

Starting this year, the UIL will use something called the Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) to determine whether it's safe for athletes to practice outdoors.
Unlike the regular air temperature, the WBGT takes heat, humidity, sunshine, and wind into account to better measure how stressful the conditions are on the human body. In many cases, the WBGT can indicate a much higher level of heat stress than the air temperature alone.

Depending on the WBGT reading, schools may have to:
- Increase water breaks
- Provide more rest in the shade
- Shorten or modify practices
- Or even cancel outdoor activities altogether


WBGT Practice Guidelines
Below 82.0F -Normal outdoor activities.
82.0-86.9F -Rapid cooling zone required (ice bath or other cooling equipment on site).
87.0-90.0F -Maximum 2-hour practice. Helmet, shoulder pads, and shorts only. Frequent hydration and rest breaks.
90.1-92.0F -Maximum 1-hour practice. No conditioning drills. No protective equipment. Extended rest breaks.
92.1F or higher - No outdoor practice permitted
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"There's a hose and some salt tablets."
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greg.w.h said:

"There's a hose and some salt tablets."


If it didnt kill ya it made ya stronger.

In August 1980 our 2 a days started at the end of that 42 day stretch of 100f+ days.

Do you know what we did to prepare for that? We hauled hay! My dad, class of 58, didnt care how hot it was the job had to be done.

During 2 a days we had one 10 minute water break, then back to practice.
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This is so dumb. Soft ass generation
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ABATTBQ87 said:

greg.w.h said:

"There's a hose and some salt tablets."


If it didnt kill ya it made ya stronger.

In August 1980 our 2 a days started at the end of that 42 day stretch of 100f+ days.

Do you know what we did to prepare for that? We hauled hay! My dad, class of 58, didnt care how hot it was the job had to be done.

During 2 a days we had one 10 minute water break, then back to practice.


You bring up a great point. 159 football players have died from heatstroke since the 1950s
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So basically teams won't be allowed to practice until October unless they have indoor facilities. Guess the state figured out how to justify increasing school taxes. Not to mention that the first few games will be played at those high temps
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This has been around for several years now. They still practice, I think last year they had to come to school early for practice. They did not miss many days. Few days they practiced inside or lifted after school.
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wangus12 said:

So basically teams won't be allowed to practice until October unless they have indoor facilities. Guess the state figured out how to justify increasing school taxes

I don't see how you can get prepared with those parameters which makes it worse for the players. They won't be conditioned when the games start.
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From the google.

Wet bulb globe temperature (WBGT) is usually lower than the regular air temperature because it accounts for humidity, wind, and solar radiation, which can reduce the perceived heat stress on the body. In contrast, regular air temperature, or dry-bulb temperature, does not factor in these elements.

As someone else mentioned, very few practices were missed, you just have to do it early or late in the day. Which is common sense.
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Blonde Coffee Beans said:

ABATTBQ87 said:

greg.w.h said:

"There's a hose and some salt tablets."


If it didnt kill ya it made ya stronger.

In August 1980 our 2 a days started at the end of that 42 day stretch of 100f+ days.

Do you know what we did to prepare for that? We hauled hay! My dad, class of 58, didnt care how hot it was the job had to be done.

During 2 a days we had one 10 minute water break, then back to practice.


You bring up a great point. 159 football players have died from heatstroke since the 1950s



Since 1950 only 10 to 15 football players have died due to lightning strike
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JamiesChallengeCard said:

From the google.

Wet bulb globe temperature (WBGT) is usually lower than the regular air temperature because it accounts for humidity, wind, and solar radiation, which can reduce the perceived heat stress on the body. In contrast, regular air temperature, or dry-bulb temperature, does not factor in these elements.

As someone else mentioned, very few practices were missed, you just have to do it early or late in the day. Which is common sense.

Yesterday, it was in the black from 11am until around 5:30pm in my area. Most teams practice during last period and after school, which is the hottest part of the day. Moving practice now is not that big of a problem. Once school starts, it is a little more difficult.
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Bogey1996 said:

This has been around for several years now. They still practice, I think last year they had to come to school early for practice. They did not miss many days. Few days they practiced inside or lifted after school.

No, this is the first year of it.
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Jbob04 said:

Bogey1996 said:

This has been around for several years now. They still practice, I think last year they had to come to school early for practice. They did not miss many days. Few days they practiced inside or lifted after school.

No, this is the first year of it.

It has been recommended for a few years. This is the first year that it is mandatory.


I have heard some coaches placing the gauge in the shade or 15' in the air off the turf to get lower readings. Not sure how true this is, but I'm sure some will try.
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ABATTBQ87 said:

Blonde Coffee Beans said:

ABATTBQ87 said:

greg.w.h said:

"There's a hose and some salt tablets."


If it didnt kill ya it made ya stronger.

In August 1980 our 2 a days started at the end of that 42 day stretch of 100f+ days.

Do you know what we did to prepare for that? We hauled hay! My dad, class of 58, didnt care how hot it was the job had to be done.

During 2 a days we had one 10 minute water break, then back to practice.


You bring up a great point. 159 football players have died from heatstroke since the 1950s



Since 1950 only 10 to 15 football players have died due to lightning strike


You're barking up the wrong tree. I lost my best friend in 1990 from a lightning strike. We were 10 years old
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That is shocking. I am sorry for your loss.
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For reference, 92 degrees F wet bulb temp is roughly 100 degrees F at 75% humidity. Not a completely crazy limitation.
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We weren't allowed to use the hose until after practice.
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Morning workouts shouldn't be an issue
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TRD-Ferguson said:

We weren't allowed to use the hose until after practice.
We had to wait for varsity…
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Jbob04 said:

This is so dumb. Soft ass generation

Go out there and do some football practice in your old age in that heat. It would be hilarious to watch.
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Bear Bryant and his "Junction Boys" would not be amused!

This is also playing havoc with high school marching band preparations. A&M Consolidated has been forced inside every day of their band camp so far.
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A classic example of "back in my day".

"These kids today are weak! They won't even practice in 100 heat with 75% humidity! What a bunch of pansies."

Just because you did it "back in your day", doesn't mean it can't be improved.

Also, yes, I think kids today generally are pansies.
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Just to.give you an idea. Right now its 96 with a heat index of 98. The wet bulb temp is 86.
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Check your area here:

https://www.weather.gov/tsa/wbgt

Current heat index of 114 and WBG of 89 down here at 4PM.

Guess there are gonna be a lot of gym walkthroughs?
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Oh, and uhhh....we had to sprint down to the bayou with a wooden pail and sprint back up the banks, then build a fire to boil the water to sanitize it if we wanted something to drink. You never thought hot water could taste so good.
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Jbob04 said:

This is so dumb. Soft ass generation

You act like the kids are the one who made this decision. Nope, it was boomers and Gen X. Probably has to do with all that lead in y'all's bloodstreams.
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

Check your area here:

https://www.weather.gov/tsa/wbgt

Current heat index of 114 and WBG of 89 down here at 4PM.

Guess there are gonna be a lot of gym walkthroughs?


They'll use the indoor practice facility
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Hmm… and why does this not apply to games? Because momma worries about her sweet boy at practice every day, but she ain't gonna miss a chance to put on the ritz and let every one hear her cheering for little Johnny on game day!

It's mothers who have changed!
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AGDAD14 said:

Hmm… and why does this not apply to games? Because momma worries about her sweet boy at practice every day, but she ain't gonna miss a chance to put on the ritz and let every one hear her cheering for little Johnny on game day!

It's mothers who have changed!

Yep, nailed it. Raising a soft generation who stays inside all day playing video games. Now they won't be acclimated to it at all and game time will be hell, especially for jr high age kids who usually play at 5.
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ABATTBQ87 said:

greg.w.h said:

"There's a hose and some salt tablets."


If it didnt kill ya it made ya stronger.

In August 1980 our 2 a days started at the end of that 42 day stretch of 100f+ days.

Do you know what we did to prepare for that? We hauled hay! My dad, class of 58, didnt care how hot it was the job had to be done.

During 2 a days we had one 10 minute water break, then back to practice.

But if it kills you, you're dead.

I have had numerous friends die in avalanches and let me tell you there's no dumber reason to die than a sport.
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The military has used this for as long as I can remember for training and working outside (under non-wartime conditions). It only makes sense that they implement it for kids playing sports...it's just a game. It's not worth dying for a kids game.
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Aggie_Fire said:

The military has used this for as long as I can remember for training and working outside (under non-wartime conditions). It only makes sense that they implement it for kids playing sports...it's just a game. It's not worth dying for a kids game.

Can you believe the military is so WOKE?
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The people pushing this are specifically looking at the overweight lineman and conditioning after a 2-2.5 hour practice in 95+ degree temperatures.

I have no problem with AM practices…get the work done early. Kids are more alert the rest of the day. But the games are played at night and it's still quite hot at 7 and 7:30. Moreover, this just kills small schools especially kids who are in both football and marching band. It becomes another issue of the haves and the have nots because no one outside of Franklin has an indoor practice facility. I don't see any of the high schools getting them any time soon.
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The elephant in the room is the artificial turf. You can add an easy +/- 15 degrees to the temp. The grinded down used tires absorption and ultimate dissapation of heat is unbearable between 4 and 5:30.
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Houston 1978 2-a-days for two week. One water break in a two hour practice.

I remember asking my coach...

"if heat and thirst make you a better football team, how do teams north of the mason dixon line ever win a national championship?"

He was not amused
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